Queen-Bohemian Rhapsody
Queen-Bohemian Rhapsody
that is a good song, i know most of you will say wtf? to this one but, Seether - Fine Again
I'll leave it for an exercise for the reader to figure out what his 'trigger' might be.
Mine is
West coast beaners: The taco shack attack
He's Iranian, so even though Iranians aren't Arabs, he's still a sand nigger.
so full of hatred. So what's the deal, is he Indian or Iranian?
Also, seether is a fat dude in eye makeup. I feel ashamed even knowing that.
'Corporate rock can suck my cock.'
well, i could really care less what he looks like, i just like the music. Queer as he may be he can make some good songs in my opinion.
Mine used to be: Stained - It's been a while
He'd actually be somewhat related to you, by way of your jewish grandfather, since he's a Parsi, even though Persians aren't normally considered a Semitic people.I have a jewish grandmother, not grandfather and she converted in the 30's so i'm not middle eastern/parsi. My grandfather fought in the Wehrmacht...th ere's a bit of a difference.
Elton John has a lot of songs that involve queerdom, you say you don't agree with his lifestyle but you like his music...this makes you a hypocrite. If you've ever actually paid for a EJ album, then you have directly paid for his astroglide and sphincter reduction surgery. You say you don't like homosexuality, but you listen to songs about homosexuality and possibly help to pay for a queer lifestyle. It would appear there is a mental disconnect happening somewhere.
Blakjax, theres a whole world of music out there that isn't carefully packaged corporate rock. If you want to listen to a fat guy wearing makeup, I suggest Il Duche.
Pearl Jam - Alive
Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Sleep: Murray Ostril (They Don't Sleep Anymore on the Beach); Monheim; broken windows, locks of love pt. III. / 3rd part Not the best, but really nice.
p.s. nevermind, I'm going to leave this GWAR business alone.
Hey lester 82 you post it for me ;)
George Michael - "Father Figure"
ROFL i say it as a joke and yall think i really like it.......what do i look like gio LOL.
Come on now Laaz, post your favourite song you Nigga ... :)
:| Natural Born Killers
GWAR will never give a damn what any of you have to say. We're never going to hang out. You're a fat neonazi, and I don't have time for you. I'd rather smoke my weed with my friends, not with some douchebag looking for free weed and a college student spending daddy's money to rag on. Please. You're lame.
Define hypocrite for me, in your own words, because although I understand what you are saying, I have to disagree. No, I have never purchased an Elton John album, I just download some of his mp3s. Yes I like his music - the actual MUSICAL part of it - the chords, melody, harmony, rythm, beat, ect. He doesn't even write his own lyrics, they are written by Bernie Taupin (who is NOT gay). Elton John might assist at times, but mainly he just writes the music. Check out this website if you don't believe me: http://www.songmeanings.net/artist.php?aid=157, or do some more searching elsewhere.
There is no "mental disconnect happening" anywhere, you just want to believe there is one. I'm not supporting his lifestyle by listening to his music. That is your opinion. Take this for example. I like to watch sports. If a football/basketball/baseball player is gay, but he's still good at his sport, and I enjoy watching his team play, does that mean I support his lifestyle? No way. That has nothing to do with it. Now if I watch his reality tv show about him living with is boyfriend or something, then that would definitely be questionable. But I wouldn't.
All I'm trying to say is that he is a good musician, nothing more, nothing less. The fact that he's gay doesn't take away from his talent. Phantom is gay but he still owns everyone at Battlefield. If he wasn't gay, would he be a better player? No. You just like to make assumptions about people and sometimes you're right and sometimes you're wrong. Just let it go man....
sorry, i didnt know im not allowed to like things that sound good to my ears. I know you think they sound like shit, and you may think im a faggot for liking it. But in all honesty i really dont give a shit. i like what i like, and it ends there.
Ha, ouch Elliot. I think Gwar is just a bit misunderstood, that's all. If the offer is still on I would gladly pay him a visit with my brother like I said I would, if we ever drive by that way together which I doubt, but you never know. Who am I to judge him? Its just a matter of sometimes not agreeing with him...
Back on topic - what else do you guys think is the best song ever?
LOL i wish you and evil moose of doom would go at it again http://www.mafiaowns.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1307
I have a jewish grandmother, not grandfather and she converted in the 30's so i'm not middle eastern/parsi. My grandfather fought in the Wehrmacht...th ere's a bit of a difference.
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Gwar, you suck donkey balls as Bone would say haha
I don't believe in a book that tells me to stone homosexuals to death, although I would gladly heave a rock at a fag, so there is a higher standard(jeeeeeeeeesus!) that you're held to.
If you watch a sports team with a homosexual player, and in all likelihood you probably do, yes, you're paying his salary. You're paying his salary by watching the commercials, you're paying his salary by looking at the advertisements in the field, you're paying his salary by buying a ticket to the game or buying team merchandise. If you want to rationalize it away, be my guest, however I will always be here to remind you of your hypocrisy.
He's a good musician...So yes, you share some culpability in providing him with a life and a platform that he probably wouldn't have had as a 'normal' queer.
Elton John has a lot of songs that involve queerdomnow literally they don't. He doesn't write the lyrics, just the music. Please let me know if there is a way to listen to just music, with no words, and determine that it is gay. Indirectly his songs involve "queerdom," because he is a "queer" and he is singing them, yes, but I don't think that is what you were trying to say. Anyway, you have agreed with me that he's a good musician so I'm done commenting here.
If I remember correctly you've driven through a couple of times since then. I'm only about an hour away from I-95.
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If you remember me saying so before, I'm no Biblical scholar. I have not read the book cover to cover. I asked some people and tried to look it up, but I cannot find a verse where the Bible "tells" me to stone gays. There are definitely instances, mostly in the Old Testament, that gays are killed, but it doesn't command me to do so. It commands me to share the gospel with them and that is what I try to do. God will judge them, not me.
I am not aware of a team with an openly gay player on it, although I agree there are probably several out there that we don't know about. I am not purposely watching a game to see a gay guy, I'm doing it because I love the sport. That is where my money is going, to the sport. They will do with it what they please, but you are going to twist it around and try to make it look like I am being a hypocrite by saying I don't like gays but I give them money. Its not like that and nobody believes it but you. Whatever you purchase from anywhere, probably has some type of link to homosexuality to it as well, but I'm not going to accuse you of "supporting" them because I know that is not your true intention.
No I don't share any of that. The only point, THE ONLY POINT that I was trying to get across was that he was a good musician, regardless of his sexual preference. You said:now literally they don't. He doesn't write the lyrics, just the music. Please let me know if there is a way to listen to just music, with no words, and determine that it is gay. Indirectly his songs involve "queerdom," because he is a "queer" and he is singing them, yes, but I don't think that is what you were trying to say. Anyway, you have agreed with me that he's a good musician so I'm done commenting here.
Yes I have but with friends and cats, not my brother, the person whom you said you wanted to meet. I doubt we'll ever be travelling that way together, or have the time to stop, but if we do I'll try to let you know, as long as your intentions are different from yours with Elliot.
Not closed, but [COLOR="Red"]moved [/COLOR]to SPAM...
Hey Gwar wanna go street racing, in greensboro on florida St. ???
GWAR, you tool. "I hate corporate America" blah blah blah. You know you can't escape its grasp, so why bother to shove a trumpet in your vagina and preach wholesome commercialism? Go beat somebody's kids or run over animals or something, but shut the fuck up already. Now, I'm gonna go buy something gawdy. Yay!! LOL!!!!@
You're just another person who'll never be but a dim blip. I've already lost sight of you. Ohhp, no more GWAR. Poor guy.
So you're saying your 'German' grandmother, in Germany, in the 1930's converted to Judaism? What timing. Do you have any idea how expensive, time consuming, and complicated it is to 'convert' to Judaism? Its a closed club...they're not interested in 'saving souls' like xtians are.
But back on track, in Hitler's Germany, this German women 'converted' to Judaism, while her husband was fighting in the German war machine? How ever did she escape being gassed?
Sure.
Elton John lyrics are easy to find. I'll sample a few, you tell me if there are homosexual overtones or not.
Album name: "Goodbye yellow brick road" (an obvious reference to The Wizard of Oz/Judy Garland, someone who is loved by homos for some reason)
Those are the lyrics. So you bringing up the red herring of 'gay music(instrumentals) really has nothing to do with this argument, and I believe you were being intentionally disingenious. Obviously 'music' can't be gay, but his lyrics definitely can. Not only gay, but bordering on pedophilia as well. If you want to push the point, I can go and dig some more for more gay references in his lyrics.
'The road to hell is paved with good intentions.'
You're just another person who'll never be but a dim blip. I've already lost sight of you. Ohhp, no more GWAR. Poor guy.
I like how you assume they were married during WWII, among other things. Oh yeah, did i ever say she was in germany in the 30's? Nope, in switzerland. Judaism isn't a "closed club," did you try to convert yourself or something? You don't need to climb a mountain or fight dragons, it's not impossible like you say.
You say "sure" but hey, i don't care. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not, just correcting you. You could think she was a one-legged philipino whore for all i care, doesn't make the slightest difference to me.
A one legged phillipino whore converting would be more believable. I think either, a: shes a jewess and your family has tried to explain it away, or b: you're making more shit up like you're inclined to do.
Remember when you used to do nothing but kiss my ass while I ignored you?
Well you asked me to tell you if there are homosexual overtones or not, and I'll have to say no. Have you not read my other posts? Elton John did not write that song. Bernie Taupin writes the lyrics and Elton writes the music and sings it Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodbye_Yellow_Brick_Road_(song)
Also, I am a fan of the Wizard of Oz, but not so much Judy Garland. She's ok I guess. I watched the movie a lot growing up, it is a classic. Great music and great story. Does that make me gay? Ha, I hope not. But I know who I am and thats all that matters, I could care less of what others think, especially people on video games forums. God will judge me. I am just interested in other people's ideas, thoughts, and opinions for some reason, and this is all quite interesting and fun for me.
Are you trying to say I'm headed to hell? If so, let's hear you back that one up. And what about the Bible scripture that "tells" me to stone gays? Are you still searching for that or will you admit it doesn't exist?
Ah, be nice. I think he's more than just that. He's a unique individual with a lot to say, and a lot to disagree with. I'm glad I'm not him for 2 reasons though: having to respond to several people on this thread, and being a lost man without a savior.
what do you mean "she's a jewess and your family has tried to explain it away?"
secondly, why in hell would i want to make this up? Look, i don't care if you believe me or not, but don't call me a fucking straight out liar.
What do you mean i used to kiss your ass? I remember you used to play alot and that you wouldn't kill me, but nothing else. Oh yeah, how does one kiss someone's ass while playing an internet video game?
Just give it up man, i never asked you to believe me, like it ever mattered to me.
What do you mean by "making more shit up like you're inclined to do." What is this "more" shit? What did i "make up" in the past, huh? Go back to arguing about queers, don't try to teach me my family history.
If you never asked me to believe you, then why the fuck did you bother to tell me the bullshit in the first place? Yeah, good question huh?
You said Judaism wasn't hard to convert to. I provided links to a jewish site that proves it is. Did you forget that part? Or is that just going to go down the memory hole?
First of all, i was correcting you because you said my grandfather was a jew, he wasn't. Secondly it wasn't "bullshit" but i guess you've decided to think it is, oops, forgot to give a damn. I didn't say it was easy to convert to, i said it wasn't fucking impossible, like you implied. No, i read your whole judaism breakdown, eventhough a moyle isn't nessisary for women, nice try though. Like i said, go back to arguing about homosexuality, don't try to tell me what happened to my family.
Consume, bitch. But don't actually respond to my offer to meet with you so that you can talk tough in person. Thats the real test, isn't it?
You know you can't win so why try! Spoken like a true latch key MTV kid. Now go find something nice and easy to do while you think up a reason why you can't meet with me in person, big guy.
Also, you get irony points for calling me a tool while you're pimping walmart to the masses. Which company was your rant sponsored in part by?
If you don't give a damn why are you explaining yourself? Idiot.
I never said it was impossible, I said it was costly(offering), time consuming(a year of study potentially), and difficult(you have to meet multiple jews and THEY have to let you in.)
Where does that imply impossible? You're just making shit up now, and not even bothering to try to refute anything. Keep flailing.
By the way, that came directly from a judaism site. Not from me. I would think you would have noticed that if you read it. Are you telling jews what they need? We used to call that 'straight from the horse's mouth,' eg, directly from the source. So way to prove me wrong by arguing with the jewish author of that article. Email him and let him know he's wrong.
I've already responded to your offers ad nauseum. You direct anger at me, and that's a big turn off, GWAR. Now do you see why I don't want to meet up with you? Also, I actually do not consume very much, compared to the average American, in my opinion, but I also choose my battles differently than you do. Latch key MTV kid... okay. It always comes back to my music taste: MTV and emo. I don't like emo, and I don't watch MTV. Oh, but how could that be if my name is Elliott Smith? Well, he's not an emo musician, and he's not promoted by MTV. Also, his music has worn thin for me, and I rarely listen to it anymore. So, scratch that shoddy criticism off of your tired, crumpled list. You're such a bullshitter, it isn't even funny. Does your mother still believe in you?
If you don't give a damn why are you explaining yourself? Idiot.
I never said it was impossible, I said it was costly(offering), time consuming(a year of study potentially), and difficult(you have to meet multiple jews and THEY have to let you in.)
Where does that imply impossible? You're just making shit up now, and not even bothering to try to refute anything. Keep flailing.
By the way, that came directly from a judaism site. Not from me. I would think you would have noticed that if you read it. Are you telling jews what they need? We used to call that 'straight from the horse's mouth,' eg, directly from the source. So way to prove me wrong by arguing with the jewish author of that article. Email him and let him know he's wrong.
You used eg incorrectly. Learn to write, then start giving yourself some credit.
Look, keep thinking i'm full of bullshit and making things up, why someone would do that is beyond me...but you can keep on thinking it. I don't care if it came from the judaism site you posted, did you bother reading what i wrote? I said women don't need a moyle, because they don't have a penis. So, what part of that sentence was wrong? I said you need not post a section about getting a tip of your wang cut off if it doesn't apply to what we were talking about (a woman.)
Only you would think it necessary to point out that women don't need a circumcision. Most would find that blindingly obvious.
In every post you say you don't care. And what have I made up? You sound defensive.
Yes, most would find it very obvious...yet you still posted it. Why? Hell, i don't know yet somehow you're giving me shit because you put something in your post that was completely irrelivent.
Yes, people do get defensive when others call them liars and say what happened didn't just because it doesn't seem likely to them.
You're saying the same shit over and over.
I've never been to Greensboro, so I have no idea where Florida Street is, but sure, if you have something worth racing I'd go with you. If its a little ricer with an Autozone 'tuner kit' on it, then forget it.
You said his 'music' was gay, I provided lyrics that are definitively gay. Saying they aren't is just an example of you being obtuse.
Would you like me to start pointing out things that you ignore and/or choose to evade? Of course, you probably go to a touchy feely feel good church, and they don't cover the meaner bits of the bible.
LEVITICUS 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."
That is from the KJV. There are other versions of the bible(how can there be so many versions of god's word?) in which it specifically mentions stoning as the execution method.
I also like your backhanded comments you make. I always pick up on them...its very xtian of you.
When we're both being eaten by worms then we'll know the real truth, won't we?
Did you bother reading it? It's basically saying that you are calling me an idiot because you put something here that didn't belong. I'm saying it over and over because you can't seem to get it through your head. Why would you call me "defensive" as if it's something you wouldn't expect if i was telling the truth? Would you react calmly if i said you were a catholic and kept arguing it over and over, insisting that you were one? No, you'd probably be pissed off that someone is trying to tell you you're something that you're not. It's not that hard to understand.
My acura tl 3.0 (Type S engine) would win :)
Really? Here is what a dictionary says. Perhaps you can share what you think it means? I know certain people have trouble distinguishing between IE and EG. Perhaps you suffer from this as well?
9 entries found for eg.
e.g.
abbr.
Latin. exempli gratia (for example).
When you used to tell the story, she was a German woman living in Germany who converted. I know this because the first time you told me that I brought up the incredible timing of a German woman converting to Judaism in Nazi Germany. You, at that time, didn't say she was Swiss, or a German living in Switzerland. I think its a recent addition to the story.Ya, and also "from what you recall" you said it was my grandfather who was the jew. You clearly didn't read what i put (not that i hold that against anyone, who really wants to hear about some other person whom they will never meet during their lifetime). I never said she was swiss, but a german living in switzerland(alot of them did that, i guess it was good hiding, who knows.)
Either way, you keep trying to shift the focus to the minutia, instead of the relevant argument. I said jews don't want converts, its difficult, time consuming, and costly, you said it wasn't, I provided proof from a jew that it is, and suddenly you start claiming victory because your grandma didn't have a penis? Idiot.
OK, let's back up, when did I say his "music" was gay? Point that out ot me and I will admit I was wrong, or actually I'll probably just say I didn't mean to type it that way and I didn't proofread. I said he writes the music to his songs, not the lyrics, and I never know that just pure music could be heard and defined as "gay." You did not provide lyrics that are definitively gay, they are in your opinion, not mine.
Yes, please start to point out everything, that doesn't scare me. I don't go to a touch feel good church, I will send you links to Sunday sermons and you can determine for yourself if you are that interested.
Well that verse is from, like I predicted, the Old Testament. God is telling Moses to do those things, not people of today. We live by the New Testament now, the teachings of Jesus, although we still read and refer to the Old Testament because it is still God's word. Why are there so many versions of His word? Great question. The only answer I can come up with off the top of my head is that it was written in another language and there is no way to directly translate it into English, there are several ways. But it doesn't matter that some words in people's Bibles are different than others, because it still says the same thing. Find where Jesus has commanded people to kill gays in the New Testament and then we'll talk.
What do you mean by backhanded comments, and the word "xtian?" I will have to admit I have no clue what you're talking about... And yes, only then will you find out the real truth, and of course it'll be too late; you will be wishing that you listened to your friend *MAFIA* Beetlejuice... or will you ;) ?
You should have used IE--that is. Or were you giving an example of a catch phrase that means "directly from a source." Please, hindsight is 20/20, but at the moment, you meant to use IE.
Ya, and also "from what you recall" you said it was my grandfather who was the jew. You clearly didn't read what i put (not that i hold that against anyone, who really wants to hear about some other person whom they will never meet during their lifetime). I never said she was swiss, but a german living in switzerland(alot of them did that, i guess it was good hiding, who knows.)
I never claimed victory for pointing out minute facts that no one cares about, i merely started responding so you don't start posting random shit that isn't true about me and my family. I'm done, now go back to your argument about homo's and the bible, that one was actually going somewhere.
Is it random shit when you make an effort to tell me about it, in what I can only guess was some sort of emotional purge?Emotional purge? When i bother to respond to you in-game, it's usually to your extreme hatred/bad-mouthing of judaism. All that seems to come out of you is violence, hate, and "nigger this..nigger that...burn the niggers..." No one's asking you to convert, it's just that you seem to have a skill where you're able to piss-off almost all people that you attempt to contact. You make acusations, and i respond. Go back to arguing about the Old Testament.
How many times are you going to come back after you say you're done? That says something about the content of your character, eh?
I'm going to translate what you said into emo talk so anyone who doesn't wear girl pants and cry when morrisey plays can understand:
"I Elliot am a big pussy and I only argue on the internet. If I actually live close to someone who is willing to see how big my mouth is in person, I plead emo and say I don't like anger. I am the perfect neutered American male, aggressive when there is no real consquence but quick to turn tail if any real conflict is offered."
Thats about the gist of what you say. And you haven't responded to us getting together, you've said you have but you've failed to take the critical step of saying Yes I will or No I won't. Although believe me, your cowardice shines through bright and clear.
I also like how you don't like anger, but have no problem with speaking angrily at someone. You probably yell shit at people from moving cars. I guess your real problem is if the anger is directed at you.
Were you a single child, or the child of a single parent? If you taken any psych classes you will understand the import of that.
No actually I meant 'for example,' which is the accepted meaning of EG. Don't burn down before you go to class any more, its affecting your learning ability.
Emotional purge? When i bother to respond to you in-game, it's usually to your extreme hatred/bad-mouthing of judaism. All that seems to come out of you is violence, hate, and "nigger this..nigger that...burn the niggers..." No one's asking you to convert, it's just that you seem to have a skill where you're able to piss-off almost all people that you attempt to contact. You make acusations, and i respond. Go back to arguing about the Old Testament.
Yeah, well you "meant" something that didn't fit. You should have "meant" that is.
If you're saying that isn't overtly homosexual, you're a liar. It even says fucking dyke in it. It talks about young girls pleasing alice in her bed. Men couldn't do it for her. Once you finally admit that it is a song ABOUT homosexuality, if that isn't enough for you, I will gladly find other lyrics in which he either proclaims his homosexual tendencies or his solidarity with homosexual women. Queers stick together.
We're not arguing about whether EJ is queer. Thats a known fact. The argument is over whether or not he promotes and/or sings about homosexuality. Who writes the lyrics is irrelevant, as he is the performer and it is Elton John's 'All the girls love Alice.' If we follow your logic far enough, Elton John would perform an anti-homosexual song if someone just 'wrote it for him.'
It must be nice to be able to pick and choose the parts of the bible you like and/or agree with, because that is what you're doing.
By the way, did you know that jews believe the New Testament isn't the word of god? Also some stuff about boiling jesus in shit, him being a false prophet, all kinds of good stuff if you just bother to look.
Actually, I rarely talk while I'm playing. A lot of the older MAFIANS know that. But nice job setting yourself up as the people's champion. Any more easily disproven lies you want to try?
You seem to be confused...whe n have I ever said anything friendly to you? Made small talk with you? Made a friendly overture of any sort?
Never. What does that tell you? That I don't like you, and could care less if you like me.
And once again you respond with an argument about an argument. No substance.
Nice cliché, Martin. Why don't you try affecting me with your words?
No, at the moment, I do not want to get together with you. I realize that is not a straight-forward yes or no to your proposal, but I don't feel the need to offer one. Hell, you just may win me over one day.
Your anger does not directly frighten me (it would be a little like fearing thunder may get me wet) but its potency is an indicator that you may be a physically violent lunatic. Those, I fear. One of them murdered my friend Jessie execution-style on her living room floor. I don’t expect you to sympathize for her, and I would never believe you if you attempted to. I simply get enjoyment from arguing with you. Does it make me a hypocrite for verbally provoking you without the will to let it culminate in a physical battle? No, unless you really are a physically violent lunatic, in which case that just makes me sensible.
My parents have been continually married to each other since before I was born, and I have siblings.
p.s. If you're against ad hominem arguments, don't illuminate my poor character. That's ad hominem. Dolt.
I assume you put meant in quotes for a reason. Is it a word you're unsure of? Let me correct you like I did for EG. You're learning all kinds of new words today aren't you? Sometimes I wonder what your dad is paying your tuition for.
3 entries found for meant.
mean1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mn)
v. meant, (mnt) mean·ing, means
v. tr.
To be used to convey; denote: “‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things’” (Lewis Carroll).
To act as a symbol of; signify or represent: In this poem, the budding flower means youth.
To intend to convey or indicate: “No one means all he says, and yet very few say all they mean, for words are slippery and thought is viscous” (Henry Adams).
To have as a purpose or an intention; intend: I meant to go running this morning, but I overslept.
To design, intend, or destine for a certain purpose or end: a building that was meant for storage; a student who was meant to be a scientist.
To have as a consequence; bring about: Friction means heat.
To have the importance or value of: The opinions of the critics meant nothing to him. She meant so much to me.
Actually i recall when you did randomly start typing full on monologues during game...It was when a play by the name of "Lamarr" said he was black during Liberation of Caen. You started spouting out shit about the "nigger lovers" and whatnot.
Once again you don't fully read what i put; I respond to these hateful things you randomly type in-game. I never said i engaged you in small talk, just that i respond to things you say. They aren't targeted toward me but to all "nigger lovers." I happen to have a black friend and i respond because i am according to you "a nigger lover."
Arguing about an argument? I just want you to drop this argument because you don't know me. If you did, then maybe you could argue it, but being an internet low-life you have no reason to verbally assail me. Go away, or focus all of your hateful comments at someone else who can respond more eloquently.
More ad hominem attacks. More popularly, a writer would have put the word meant in italics. I used quotations, and it suits the same purpose, being that I quoted a particular area of your prose and emphasized it in my own particular prose.
Neither of my parents pay for ANY of my tuition, cunt--something I am quite proud of thank you.
Actually it isn't ad hominem, since it is based on easily proven circumstances. You have repeatedly said you were done, right? You have then instead come back, right? Hardly an unmeritted attack on your character.
You know what the difference between you and poor Jessie is? You're presumably a man. Also, she probably didn't run her mouth on message boards, and fail to follow through with the physical part of being a internet tough guy. See you have the talking down, we just need to work on the action part. Anyway, I promise not to murder you.
In Elliot's world anyone who calls him on his bullshit is a violent lunatic. What a neat little excuse.
By the way, how long have you been sitting on that thunder analogy?
Nice cliché, Martin. Why don't you try affecting me with your words?
No, at the moment, I do not want to get together with you. I realize that is not a straight-forward yes or no to your proposal, but I don't feel the need to offer one. Hell, you just may win me over one day.
Your anger does not directly frighten me (it would be a little like fearing thunder may get me wet) but its potency is an indicator that you may be a physically violent lunatic. Those, I fear. One of them murdered my friend Jessie execution-style on her living room floor. I don’t expect you to sympathize for her, and I would never believe you if you attempted to. I simply get enjoyment from arguing with you. Does it make me a hypocrite for verbally provoking you without the will to let it culminate in a physical battle? No, unless you really are a physically violent lunatic, in which case that just makes me sensible.
My parents have been continually married to each other since before I was born, and I have siblings.
p.s. If you're against ad hominem arguments, don't illuminate my poor character. That's ad hominem. Dolt.
Really? More of them?
Are you a writer? I'm certainly not. But you seemed to take issue with the world 'meant.' Now you don't seem to know why...more bullshit from you instead of substance. This is what you live for, isn't it? All words, with no real conclusion, when it could be so easy but for your cowardice. Aren't you in Greenville?
I don't remember saying that explicitly. I understand that I could have implied it, and if I did, so be it. I did not mean it though.
That's kind of something I addressed earlier; I'm not trying to be a tough guy. I'm only arguing with you as a sort of rhetorical exercise. You're like a verbal punching bag, no offense. I know you could crush me in a physical duel. Not interested in proving it to you. I do think we could get along, and it's really not out of the question, providing my friends came and providing you and we met in a crowded, lighted area. You know, just to be sensible. Believe it or not, I'm even more profoundly cynical than you, I feel.
No, your anger truly is potent. This isn't a me vs. you argument. Your anger is potent with or without me even existing.
A long, long time.
Look, you lorded someone's misunderstandi ng of what you'd written over them, and I piped in to defend him. Pardon me. I write for a humor publication, but that's the extent of my writing career. I'm not a professional writer, no. All I meant was the word as the title of someone who has written something. A writor, if you will. And I don't live in Greenville. Not sure where Greenville is, but I think you and I are near one another--2 hours or so.
Sorry, I just got a chuckle out of this again. What was your friend's last name? Or how about just when and where? Combine this with your claims of the ak-47 toting drug dealers you hang out with(for someone so passive, you sure have mean friends), and my bullshit meter is pegged.
I don't even need a name, just a town and a date.
Hey, come on, it is my turn for a reply.
So my friend drives to Atlanta to his "supplier" as he called him, and that man let my friend into his home to complete the deal. During his stay he saw at least one gun, and he identified it as an AK-47. I may have blew this story out of proportion somewhere along the line, but that's the real story for the record. I've never seen an AK-47 in my life, I just claim to have a friend who has. I'm not giving you Jessie's last name. She died in Gulf Breeze, FL over 5 years ago. Her stepfather shot her and then himself. It's the truth.
Hey, come on, it is my turn for a reply.
Obviously we are all on the internet now, how about a trip to Ventrilo?
I have a very good feeling that Gwar wants no part of that...
By the way, is this explicit enough for you?
Godspeed You Black Emperor! - Sleep: Murray Ostril (They Don't Sleep Anymore on the Beach); Monheim; broken windows, locks of love pt. III. / 3rd part Not the best, but really nice.
p.s. nevermind, I'm going to leave this GWAR business alone.
And that was back on page 2.
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Hey, GWAR. Maye I am a pussy. Move on.
I said this GWAR business... now we're on that GWAR business. Joke. Okay, so I said it and forgot. I changed my mind, good grief.
Why don't you just pull over on a rest stop on 95 on your next trip and give me a call? I'm pretty sure you want no part of that....
How many times did you revise that post before it was deemed good enough, anyway?
Oh yay! GWAR (the band) is coming to Houston on Friday night! Maybe I'll go watch...
It said what I wanted it to say, nothing more, nothing less, I just thought you missed it because you didn't quote the whole thing the first time, just the first line, so I reposted so you'd see it. I will combine the two posts now to please you. Its amazing how the smallest things seem to matter. Not wanting to give you a call on next time on my trip on 95? Why wouldn't I want that? I guess for the same reason you won't come on ventrilo.
Wow you're a nigger lover? I remember back about a year ago it was cool to be racist in MAFIA. Or are we pretending it wasn't, now? In fact, I remember you claiming, along with others here, to be a Nazi. It kind of tied in with you being so proud of being German, if I remember correctly. I think the real problem is that you haven't found out what you are yet. Nigger lover is as good as any for you, I guess.
I might go to that show.
Gave up pussy, stopped doing toot
Now you can't wait to give someone the boot
Elbows and knuckles, all you know how
Follow the herd, just another cow
Brain full of shit, boots full of lead
Straight from Hitler's ass it's a Nazi Skinhead
HEY WHY DO NAZI SKINHEADS WEAR RED SUSPENDERS ANYWAY!?
Wow, this proves how bad your memory is, or how easily you confuse names. I would never say that i'm a nazi, there you are mistaken. Wouldn't it seem ironic if i declared that i was a nazi, but have a jewish relative? It's improbable, i would never say that...do you enjoy putting words in peoples mouths?
What the hell is that supposed to mean "i haven't found out what i am yet..."
i'm aware i'm late in responding, had dinner.
Guess so. Nazi chic is so like, last year.
I'm not sure I follow.
I've had this game for less than a year, and i never said i was a nazi for the record.
GWAR lyrics, Slaughterama to be exact.
GWAR(the band) has a lot to say, and a lot of it is worth listening to, and most of it is hilarious. They don't sing Slaughterama when skins are at the show, due to an 'incident.' Their stage show is also very good. I suspect you might be capable of understanding what they're trying to say when giant worms are eating the slaves and blood and urine is spraying on the crowd. Most people reject it as a heavy metal freak show.
Sounds like my kind of party. I remember that they guest starred on Viva La Bam, that hip show on MTV. Now, I know I said I don't watch MTV, and I still mean it. I've laid eyes on the television screen while MTV was selected, but... I've also played several games of pool, and I don't call myself a pool player. I also realize it's poor rhetoric to preempt an invented argument and refute it, which I did shamelessly. Anyway, I'm gonna head to bed. No hard feelings, though I am still leery of you and our potential meeting, no offense. Love you.
The MTV/BM shit was a low point, I can only hope they were desperate for money.
I love you too, and we will consumate our love under the stage at the GWAR show.
AND
I will write a song about it and have Elton John perform it just for BJ, so that he can deny its homosexual content.
Well good thing last year was only 7 months ago. And you have, for the record. Your denials look somewhat awkward when combined with your name and the German flag as your avatar.
Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven
Masterful song writing, musicianship and composition. It's hard to find songs that have such great components all rolled up in one.
I will write a song about it and have Elton John perform it just for BJ, so that he can deny its homosexual content.nm, thought you were talking about me for a second, i was confused lol. seems to happen to me alot lately...
nm, thought you were talking about me for a second, i was confused lol. seems to happen to me alot lately...
CLOSED and moved to "Dickhead Stupidass Motherfucker replied to this thread too many times for anyone to take seriously section" Lol
Gwar, you suck donkey balls as Bone would say haha
Boot lickers never get any respect, don't you know that yet?
I will write a song about it and have Elton John perform it just for BJ, so that he can deny its homosexual content.Ah, are we still going to talk about this? Yes Elton John is a homosexual. Yes, a few of the songs that he sings have homosexual content in them. That is what you want to hear right? There, you have it.
Ah, are we still going to talk about this? Yes Elton John is a homosexual. Yes, a few of the songs that he sings have homosexual content in them. That is what you want to here right? There, you have it.
Apparently you didn't read one of my last posts, or it is YOU that has trouble with comprehension. I admitted that the "Alice" song was about a lesbian, but it was the song "Yellow Brick Road" that I denied had homosexual content. I am finished discussing Elton John being gay and analyzing all the lyrics. My only statement about him from here on out, and it is also my original statement from the beginning, is that he is still a great musician. Bring up all the gay stuff you want, I don't care, I'll ignore it and continue to say that doesn't take away from the fact that he can write good "music," not lyrics.
And when are you going to accuse me of only following some parts of the Bible, not all parts, again? Or bring on some verses, probably out of context, and try to lay them on me and call me a hypocrite. Of course, you don't know what I really feel and how I really try to live. No, you're going to put words into my mouth, something you are great at doing with everyone, tell me I say this about myself or others, but I don't actually do it, when in reality you haven't a clue. So go back to a search on gays in the Bible, preferably the New Testament (the Old Testament is mainly stories about either profecy or law, we are in a new covanent now), and tell me where Jesus says to kill gay people. I guess you had to sleep on that one eh?
"They which commit such things are worthy of death."ahh, yes they are worthy of death. What is truely being said though is the "death" of the soul. It is saying the Homosexuality is a sin, yet all sins are worthy of death. But God sent his son Jesus to die on the cross so that we could be forgiven for our sins. You interpit death with killing, but it is the death of the soul they are refering to. This passage is put there to wrong the act of homosexuality, not to kill its followers.
Homosexuals (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death."
1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things
ahh, yes they are worthy of death. What is truely being said though is the "death" of the soul. It is saying the Homosexuality is a sin, yet all sins are worthy of death. But God sent his son Jesus to die on the cross so that we could be forgiven for our sins. You interpit death with killing, but it is the death of the soul they are refering to. This passage is put there to wrong the act of homosexuality, not to kill its followers.
It is what it is. How nice of god to make his words so ambiguous for his followers.well, one who believes in the bible would know what it is saying, or at least see it the same way i do. obviously you do not se it the same way i do, so there is no point in argueing with you.
Death of the soul? The soul is eternal, didn't you know that?
Where does it say the soul? Why not just say the soul, instead of saying 'worthy of death.?
You're worthy of death, Blakjax. But I just mean your eyes, not you. I know I said something completely opposite, but its faith brother.
'Goodbye yellow brick road' is the album title. I labeled it as such. If you go back and read my post, correctly this time, you will see that I never made any mention of that song, other than as a reference to a movie that many queers love. In fact I didn't even realize it was a song, I thought it was just the album title. Any other straw men you want to construct?
Where did you admit the alice song was about being queer? Point that out for me. Denial, denial, denial.
Yes, facts are me putting words in people's mouths. I say you don't literally follow the bible, which you don't, and I'm 'putting words in your mouth.' Heres another fact..you pick and choose what parts of the bible you want to follow.
I've shown you in the bible where it says to kill queers. I never said jesus said to kill gays, I said the bible did. If you choose to ignore half the bible, thats your lookout, not mine. Wow...you accuse me of twisting words, yet here you are trying to change everything I said so that it fits your argument better. I like how you twisted my words into an argument you can win, an argument which has nothing to do with what I actually said, and then declared victory yet again.
But since you insist, here is an example of the New Testament calling for the death of homosexuals. I can't wait to see how you try to twist this.
"They which commit such things are worthy of death."
Homosexuals (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death."
1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them
There are your god's alleged words, straight from him. Claiming to believe in something that you haven't read and explored fully is idiotic. And for someone who wears his religion on his sleeve, you really should be better prepared for people who don't believe in your hocus pocus bullshit. By the way, I've read the bible completely through twice. And that was before I was 12. It was under coercion, of course, but I would think a 'rational' adult xtian like yourself would be interested in reading what he claims to believe. It is sad to think that I came to a more rational and informed conclusion on xtianity at the age of 12 than you have at 23 or whatever you are. Sheep.
If you go back and re-read MY post, you will see that I admitted I made a mistake (yes humans do that) and I thought you were talking about "Yellow Brick Road," and not "Alice." In post #65, by me, you'll see where I actually gave a link to that song, and I said it wasn't gay. Then, in post #97, by me, you can reread when I realized you were talking about "Alice," and not "Yellow Brick Road," and it was there that I admitted the "Alice" song was about a lesbian. For some unknown reason I just thought of "Yellow Brick Road" when I saw those words and totally lost track of the "Alice" lyrics until you had to repost them.
So, there is no denial, no denial, no denial. I am right and you are wrong on this one. I will admit that I misread your post and got the song messed up, I am a human, a man at that, and I'm not afraid to admit when I mess up. You, on the other hand, seem to think you are always right and I have proven you wrong several times, but instead of saying "Oh, you're right, I'm wrong," you move on to a different subject and ignore when I called you out. Once again, Elton John may sing about gays, he may not, but I am standing by what I've always said, just one simple thing, that he is still a good musician. At this point it doesn't even matter to me anymore. If Jesus were alive he'd probably admit the same thing, but would he care that Elton John was a good musician? Probably not, he would care more about his salvation.
I NEVER once said I literally follow the Bible to every word. So yes, I agree, I don't literally follow the Bible, whether its intentionally or unintentionall y. If I followed everything the Bible said, commanded me to do, then I would be perfect and I would never sin. But I don't, I CANNOT, because I am human, and I was separated from God. That is where Jesus comes in - he followed all of God's word, he lived the perfect life, and by me admitting I'm a sinner and not perfect and not worthy of God, but asking Jesus to come into my life and the Holy Spirit to fill my heart, I have become a child of God. By Jesus dieing on the cross, he died for my sins and for everyone else's, sins I've committed in the past, sins I committ today, and sins I'll comitt for the rest of my life.
Just because I cannot perform everything Bible says, doesn't mean I don't try to, and doesn't mean I'm not a Christian, or a hypocrite, and any other label you love using. It just means I'm in need of a savior. You don't understand any of this though because you yourself do not know Jesus/God. It is NOT a fact that I pick and choose which parts of the Bible I want to follow. Since you probably didn't read it or didn't understand it, I said that the Old Testament was from a different convanent, one in which we do not live now. We live in a new convanent now, and follow what Jesus has taught, in the New Testament, which still comes from God. God commanded others to do thing, kill, ect., but he is not commanding ME to do that because I am not living in Old Testament times. People use to bring sacrifices as an offering to God - they do not do that anymore because we have Jesus now. God commanded that in the Old Testament, does that mean I should be doing it right now? No.
Yes, you've shown me where it says or talking about killing gays in the Bible, but that is not what I asked. I asked you to show me where it commandes ME personally to do so, and you still haven't found that verse. You found the LV verse in which God commands Moses to do it, and you found the Romans verse in which Paul talks about God's wrath and God's judgement of gays, not mine. Its all about God, don't you see, not about me. I'm just living my life according to God's will. I am not judging them, God is. I am called to share my testimony and the gospel with them.
If you think I am "twisting" your words, I apologize. If you want me to (believe me you don't because I'll prove you wrong), I will go back to your post where you talked about stoning gays, quote it word-for-word, show you where I said that doesn't apply to me, and then you never did show me. Its not twisting words to win an argument. Do you think that is what this is about? Do you think I am trying to "win" an argument? You are wrong if you think so. I know I not going to change your mind, I know I will never declare victory on this post. What I do know is that I am sharing my life and my beliefs with you, and that it is causing you to think about it more closely. If you do become a Christian, it won't be because of me, it'll be because of God and I was just planting a seed.
Like I said, those verses you quoted from Romans are Paul talking about God's wrath and judgement against people who know God and what God wants but neither have glorified him nor gave thanks to him. People like you. Although you may not be gay, you have a knowledge of God (reading the Bible twice before you were 12 means almost nothing because you did not apply it), yet you still refuse him. It is you who is dead. Your spirit is dead, you are dead in your sins, and it will ultimately lead to a physical death, but of course we will all die. This is what Blakjax was saying, and you were right, the soul never dies, but the Bible refers to "dead souls/spirits" as ones which do not know God. They are dead in their sins. Become a believer is being "born again," a new creation, even though its not physical, its spiritual.
I am not claiming to believe in something I have never fully explored. Being a Christian is not reading the Bible cover to cover, as much as possible, memorizing every verse, and blah blah blah. It helps in your relationship with God, to know him more. Obviously the more you read, and the more you pray, the more you know Him. But I still know him, and that is all that matters. Here's what I claim to believe: God is perfect, holy, he created everything. He created man, in His image, to worship Him. Man sinned against him. Man and God became separated. Jesus was sent to live the life that God created man for, then died for all of man's sins. People who admit they sin and they surrended their lives to Jesus are once again connected to God, but only through Jesus. God cannot look down on us for we are not holy. But it is through the blood of Christ that he sees us and knows us, and that we may know Him. That is what I believe.
I'm sorry if I cannot tell you some of the stories from the Old Testament. Maybe some day I will. But that is not what matters, not to Christians, maybe to people like you. I read the word, I pray to God, and I try to live my life to glorify him. I've known several people with a much better understanding of the Bible than me, but they didn't have a personal relationship with God, therefore they were dead as well. It is sad to think that you THINK you have a rational and informed knowledge of the Bible but you do not have a personal relationship with God. It is sad to think that you are still living by the same spiritual beliefs as when you were twelve. I was once like you, not exactly the same, but a lot like you. I loved to argue Christianity and make fun of it and all that, but then I really looked into it and realized the truth. Basically there are two types of people in this world - saved and unsaved. The saved people who read this will know exactly what I'm talking about. The unsaved people will read it and either agree with you, agree with me but still not committ their lives to Christ, be totally confused, or just not care.
If you want to continue the Bible study, let's hear some more scripture and how I allegedly do not "choose" to apply it to my life, when it was never meant for me to follow anyway. I am not "claiming" to believe what I believe, I do believe it. For some reason it upsets you. I am not one of the "bible thumpers" who is going to try to change your life and scream at you and tell you that you're going to burn in hell, even though at this point I believe you will I'm not going to say it to you. But do not pretend to think you know me, to know what I have done and haven't done for God, to think I haven't labored for him, to think all of this is fake and phony. If you truly knew me and said those things, then maybe I'd be interested, but you don't and I'm not. I am interested in telling you what is truth. What I find funny is that Jesus warned me about you, he warned all Christians that they would face opposition. Its so much easier to live on your side, but it is so much better to be on mine.
Why dont you two just argue this in pm's, theres no need to bring others into this arguement.
Why dont you two just argue this in pm's, theres no need to bring others into this arguement.
To your sermon I say, anyone with an IQ above 100, who has read the bible completely, or even very large portions of it, it is impossible to believe in god. There are so many contradictions, lies, acts of violence, and insane people in the bible that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be a rational person and still believe in it. You have blinders on that are caused by your need to feel that there is some great being out there guiding us and protecting us, so you ignore the offensive parts of the bible and just focus on what you believe are the 'good' parts. If you cared to take a look at the violence being committed in the world today, even ignoring the insanity of the bible, you would see that there is no god. Where is he? Why doesn't he set a bush on fire like he used to do? He created this mess, but now he's too good to clean it up and your only option is to blindly believe in him? He created man, he created mans violence. He could have just as easily created the ideal man, but apparently he is so insecure that he needs to love and approval of mortal beings that only exist because he created them? Sounds like a spoiled child playing with his dolls.
Actually you're the one who refuses to admit being wrong and jumps around. That is why it took so long to pin you down on admitting that the song lyrics were gay. I did miss where you admitted it, but to accuse me of not admitting to being wrong is one of your favorite tactics, especially in light of the fact that that is the only point I have been wrong on. I have provided source after source, and backed up each argument with as many facts as possible. You continue to run on faith and emotion. Only now when you think you see an advantage will you admit that you 'misunderstood' that I was talking about the alice song. I have proven that EJ sings songs about being queer. I have shown you in the bible where it calls for you to kill queers. Never have I said that jesus says to kill queers, that is a straw man argument of your own invention. You insisting on me providing proof of jesus telling you to tell queers has nothing to do with my statement about the bible calling for the death of homosexuals.
I don't believe in a book that tells me to stone homosexuals to death, although I would gladly heave a rock at a fag, so there is a higher standard(jeeeeeeeeesus!) that you're held to.
Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT).
You say that you know jesus even though you haven't read the entire bible...well, what is stopping you? You have time to argue with me for 5 hours, but you can't read the bible in it's entireity? You act like bibles are rare or hard to read. I would think that with your enormous faith in god you would devour the book. The only thing stopping YOU from reading the bible is YOU. All your points otherwise have no meaning in light of that. Think how much closer you could be to god once you deciphered the meaning of such passages as...
You say oh, we don't do things that way anymore, that was a long time ago and jesus came since then. Well, how long is 2000 fucking years to your eternal, omnipotent god? 2000 years ago to him must be nothing, for he has existed for all of time, right? In fact, there could be no time but for him. So really, it was just yesterday on eternal being time that he decided you didn't have to kill your children to make him happy.
Heres one of my favorite passages from the bible. It sounds perfectly reasonable. Just thought I would do a little proselytizing.
1 Kings 20:35-36
35Now a certain man of (AB)the sons of the prophets said to another (AC)by the word of the LORD, "Please strike me." But the man refused to strike him.
36Then he said to him, "Because you have not listened to the voice of the LORD, behold, as soon as you have departed from me, (AD)a lion will kill you." And as soon as he had departed from him a lion found him and killed him.
PIANO MUSIC? what the fuck, ur mexican ass music is better than piano music. no, wait, i would put me to sleep, beaner music gives me a headache. but pianos still suck nuts.
fav song = Ice Cream man by luniz and drudown, CUZ IS BOUT CRACK,
or Rescue 911 by dru down and yukmouth, jus cuz its a super G'ed
out Oakland classic
but there's too many ore to name, but that'll do for now
Eduard Khil - "I Am Glad, Cause I'm Finally Returning Back Home"
Don really have a favorite song but Piano music is the best.