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[*MAFIA* Capsloc]

that a boy medic. u show em how we are right.

[Loaded]

Um ok... 2-1=1, there you happy? There is the 1 you are all looking for, just remember "1 Is The Loneliest Number".

No it isn't spam... I am trying to stop you all from blowing your top, breaking your computers or getting in a fight at the Bar over this.

Maybe on a linux computer it comes out as 1 and on a MS computer it comes out as 9... Didn't think of that did you?

[*MAFIA* Capsloc]

Um ok... 2-1=1, there you happy? There is the 1 you are all looking for, just remember "1 Is The Loneliest Number".

No it isn't spam... I am trying to stop you all from blowing your top, breaking your computers or getting in a fight at the Bar over this.

yeah but still .9999999999999 99999999999999 99999999999999 =[SIZE="7"][COLOR="Red"]1[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[MeZmoriZe]

Wow, you guys really don't understand, do you?  I'm only at the 10th grade(Algebra 2)math level, and after reading about it, I can fully understand it.  With that said, maybe some of you will actually read and see how it happens.  So, .999999.... does infact equal 1.

[HaVoK]

Well if you were going to take the significant digits of that to see whether or not in an equation something was equal to 1 and you get the answer of .9999999, the logical choice would be to put it to 1 instead of .9.  That's just the logical thing in my opinion.

[*MAFIA* Capsloc]

Wow, you guys really don't understand, do you?  I'm only at the 10th grade(Algebra 2)math level, and after reading about it, I can fully understand it.  With that said, maybe some of you will actually read and see how it happens.  So, .999999.... does infact equal 1.

see told u guys. i think we won. so therefore ,9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999=1

[MeZmoriZe]

Here's another way to think about it. When you write something like

  0.35

that's really the same as 35/100,

  0.35 = 35 / 100

right? Well, you can turn that into a repeating decimal by dividing by
99 instead of 100:
     __
  0.35353535... = 0.35 = 35 / 99

Again, some examples can help make this clear:
          _
       0.1 = 1/9
         __
      0.12 = 12/99
        ___
     0.123 = 123/999

and so on.  

So, here's something to consider:  What fraction corresponds to
     _
  0.9 = ?

It has to be something over 9, right?
     _
  0.9 = ? / 9

With there only being natural numbers as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9...and so on.

The only thing it could possibly be is
     _
  0.9 = 9 / 9

right?  But that's the same as 1.

By the way, the forum screwed up my repeating sign.  So please try to ignore that as best as possible.

[*MAFIA* Bonehead]

Last time think really hard...

The number system does not end it can not end there is no end to it!

Now how can something = a higher level when that level could never be reached by getting to the end when the end will never come? if .999> infinite =1 then how did you get to the end to get the 1? you can't rank a higher integer for a lower meaning that has no end to its conception.

You can play with numbers all you like step back and look at it with a simple mind as a child would and you will see there is really no way.


In a simple case lets do this...

I hope in my car and I get going so fast that I infact start to go in reverse.
Is this logic possible?

[iLLUSi0N]

Here's another way to think about it. When you write something like

  0.35

that's really the same as 35/100,

  0.35 = 35 / 100

right? Well, you can turn that into a repeating decimal by dividing by
99 instead of 100:
     __
  0.35353535... = 0.35 = 35 / 99

Ok... .35 does equal 35/100. You're right there. BUT... when you divide .35 by 99, you're getting a completely new fraction. .35353535~ does not equal .35!! It's 35/99 which is larger than 35/100. You can see this played out:
35/100 = .35
35/99 = .353535353535~
So: .3535353535353 5~ > .35    and 35/99 > 35/100

They are completely different numbers. When you make the assumption that 35/100 = 35/99, then you are make the /99 what the /100 was representing in the first example (the whole number). Explained:
100/100 = 1
You say that 35/100 = 35/99
Which would mean: 99/100 = 1
But since 35/100 does not equal 35/99, then you're comparing apples to oranges and start looking at the .9~ through the concept of x/9

Tell me if I explained that right. =\

[Rahl]

Holy shit. . . I didn't think this would be such a controversy.  You can disagree all you'd like, but .9999....is in fact 1.  There have been ample proofs put up -- I don't see how it could be much more clear.  You may disagree because of your architect experience or whatever, but my mathematics degree begs to differ.  Not to mention my professors' degrees.

Anyway, this was fun.  Love ya!

[iLLUSi0N]

Yeah, since I don't have a degree and I don't agree with you then it's obviously my inability to look at problems from different perspectives.. . :^

[Elliott Smith]

You're all retarded.

If .9 repeating and 1 are different numbers, give me the number between them.  There isn't one.  They're the same number.  Get over it because it's boring and doesn't actually matter to many people.

By the way, .9999999999 repeating in fraction form is just 1/1.  If it were anything else, it wouldn't equal 1.  And it does equal 1.  Let this end.

[Koekiemonster]

Hello Peoples,

I would still like to add someting to this discussion.

I read the artikel and mathematically you could get to
the illusion that 0,9 invenite equals 1.
But if this where really to be true, then logically
1,9 invenite should equal 2, and anny other number taken
to invenit should eventually become the number following it up.

If this where true, then every number is really no different then
anny other number.
Then that means we shouldn't be able to count, but we can!!
So 0,9 invenite does not really equal 1, it's only very close to it!!

How about that??

[Rahl]

Yeah, since I don't have a degree and I don't agree with you then it's obviously my inability to look at problems from different perspectives.. . :^

It's not that I don't value other people's opinions.  Far from it!  It's just that in mathematics, things are either true or not.  There are no grey areas.  That's probably why I like it so much.

[*MAFIA* Phantom]

everyone's math is wrong, .9 to infinite can never be a whole number. The only way you people are converting it and believing it can is because of HUMAN ERROR. Humans do make mistakes you know and obviously you guys are fucking it up. Who knows, there could always be flaw in mathematics. Use logic.

Example.  You have an apple, you have a .11111 to the infinite piece missing from it therefore it's not a whole apple and never will be.

Elliot says that there is no number between .999 to infinite and 1 but that is because there is no end to the number .999 to infinite. Technically .9999 is not a number at all if it is not complete.