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[HaVoK]

I don't remember you ever talking trash or "disrupting" the server, before, during, or after being in *MAFIA*, so I don't understand why all of a sudden it is a big deal now.  Unless of course you're trying to join 3v0, in which case I guess these posts make you look good.  I guess school/girlfriend aren't as busy as they use to be or else you wouldn't be wasting your time with these posts.  Do I smell a future 3v0lution member?  I think so.

Nope.  No clans for me.  I'm just stating what I've always thought.  It's a no rules server so there should be no rules.  I have no problem with spawn camping and things like that, but when I get kicked for it and then I see other *MAFIA* members doing it and nothing happens.... something wrong.

All I want to do is play and not get kicked for what I've always done.

[Hard Target]

If someone is causing people to leave the server, or a majority of the people want that person kicked, and an admin is on, then its possible they might get kicked, depending on the admin.  Maybe they won't.  If there's no admin there, obviously there'll be no kicking.  Instead of just flaming, calling out "hyposcrisy" (you are one too, we all are at some point), just play, seriously.  Theres' no point in trying to dissect what rules are and aren't and blah blah blah.  Just play the video game, its not that hard.

I don't remember you ever talking trash or "disrupting" the server, before, during, or after being in *MAFIA*, so I don't understand why all of a sudden it is a big deal now.  Unless of course you're trying to join 3v0, in which case I guess these posts make you look good.  I guess school/girlfriend aren't as busy as they use to be or else you wouldn't be wasting your time with these posts.  Do I smell a future 3v0lution member?  I think so.

beetlejuice (jesusjuice) i like you. you put alot of thought and consideration in what you post i appreciate what you have to say...as for havok joining 3v0, he hasnt made mention of it. but i agree his post do make him look good to 3v0...

[*MAFIA* PROHELIM@NKIE]

Some things never change, as far as 3v0 coming in here and bitching, you all know you thrive on the negative responses you get from people bitching. (Game Wreckers at Large) This is a public forum as I can not be responsible for what 3v0 members do or say on any other forum, other then ours. As far as 3v0 playing on your server thank you for letting us play there, it is a fun server to play on.

Pat maybe next time you want to know more about my personal life just ask I have nothing to hide. The phone was never disconnected I just got a notice that was suppose to take effect on the 24. My job takes me to remote areas and sometimes I can't get access to the Internet to look after some things. To add to that not all my bills are coming to my new place, but to the other house. This whole thing with pay pal is kinda funny. See the way my pay pal is set up is when I deposit money into it it takes 6-8 business days to clear. I could use my credit card, but personally I don't like to use it online(personal choice). The information you so seem to be getting is  not totally accurate. Maybe you need a more reliable source.

Yes you Pat are banned from our server forum and anything else we have, because quite frankly we do not want the negativity that you bring to the game, hence the reason I and a few others left Mafia. Yes Pat you can own and you are one of the best, I just don't like your style. Boemann is not banned from anything, same as Brick, at one time yes they were and that was something Ins4n3 did solely on his own. I have not heard from Ins4n3 in awhile, what is going on in his life I couldn't tell you, nor do I care, that is his business. Ins4n3 really hasn't been  apart of 3v0 in quite sometime he has been busy doing other things. We will be getting a new server up and running shortly which will be managed by 3vo members and 3v0 as a clan. I have never once said i was the leader of 3v0 nor do I want to be..... as Bonehead knows it takes allot of work and time which I don't have. I like to let the clan make the decisions as a whole. Yes on occasion I have made a few decisions on my own, mainly a few members joining or being removed.

To everyone else I apologies for the drama, and once we get everything up and running you are all more then welcome to come over and play. Thx again Daddy and the other admin that have been responsible for unbanning 3v0 and letting us play on your server while it is down.

Snake

No Insane? and managed by 3vo members and 3v0 as a clan. You said "I have never once said i was the leader of 3v0 nor do I want to be.........!!!              
  NO... Wonder.... the kiddies r outta control, theres no head, theres gotta be someone that will take the throne and call the shots, Thats probably where i got the term      
" M I S M A N A G E D " from in the past!!!! Sry you feel the way you do about my style, but maybe you saw the negativity ur clan bring's to our server STOP.... LOOK.......LIS TEN......AND.. ...... LEARN......... .............!!!

As far as your forums my IP is 70.119.25.149 look it up i never registered with your forums nor do i care too!!! I'm not the one too cry over spilled MILK,Kicked,Banned all the time, and cry too momma everytime daddy gave a spanking, so just tell the majority of your clan too do what i had too do,  learn to growing up!!! STOP.......LOO K......LISTEN. ......AND..... .LEARN........ ..........!!!!!     gear, jackal, fizzer, the whole *MAFIA*clan and I like you guys!!! UR always welcomed in our server.

[*MAFIA* PROHELIM@NKIE]

beetlejuice (jesusjuice) i like you. you put alot of thought and consideration in what you post i appreciate what you have to say...as for havok joining 3v0, he hasnt made mention of it. but i agree his post do make him look good to 3v0...

#2 Awwww........ thats another sweet one, you get reps hardtarget, keep it up, and i'll make you a member, and that way you'll never be banned ! ! !  ROFL

[-dicer 02-]

Okay so there is now a rule that says you can get kicked for spawn killing really if people are leaving the server?  Then why is it that I can get spawn killed along with my team on Coral Sea this morning and people are still leaving, and yet people aren't getting kicked for it?  Hypocrisy?  I think so.

Oh well, I'll just wait for the 3v0 server to be up I guess.

its a no rules server......th at means theres no rules on who gets kicked or banned
....no rules means admin can ban your ass for lookin ugly, not that any good admin would, but it is their server.

[*MAFIA* Beatlejuice]

Nope.  No clans for me.  I'm just stating what I've always thought.  It's a no rules server so there should be no rules.  I have no problem with spawn camping and things like that, but when I get kicked for it and then I see other *MAFIA* members doing it and nothing happens.... something wrong.

All I want to do is play and not get kicked for what I've always done.

OK well I was just messing with you, regardless of what you decide to do.  Like I've said before, I think it was on AIM, let me know if you're getting kicked for spawn camping, especially if I'm online right when it happens, and I'll take care of it.  I agree, no rules should really mean NO RULES, although sometimes it doesn't, and then this happens.  Did you understand the other things I said though...maybe you don't agree, but do you get our point of view?

beetlejuice (jesusjuice) i like you. you put alot of thought and consideration in what you post i appreciate what you have to say...as for havok joining 3v0, he hasnt made mention of it. but i agree his post do make him look good to 3v0...

OK well thanks.  I try to get along with people as much as possible and haven't personally witnessed any of this so I'm just trying to ease tentions.  Good luck with recruiting Havok, I said that half-seriously/half-jokingly...he's an independent who likes to pwn clans.

[Twisted]

mabye you should refine the rules so there a little more specfic. lol

[*MAFIA* Beatlejuice]

mabye you should refine the rules so there a little more specfic. lol

I think we'll stick with no rules and keep the flame section open.

[Twisted]

ok but if theres no rules i dont understand why admins get punished for kicking.

[*MAFIA* KrautKiller]

its a no rules server......th at means theres no rules on who gets kicked or banned
....no rules means admin can ban your ass for lookin ugly, not that any good admin would, but it is their server.

So i could ban you.. its no rules afterall

[Twisted]

you could but im not playing

[*MAFIA* [StimPH]]

you could but im not playing

hes not refering to you smartass

and yeah kraut, its no rules, so we can kick and ban everybody, thats what our server says, no rules. no rules for playing, same for kicking and banning !!!

[*MAFIA* PROHELIM@NKIE]

its a no rules server......th at means theres no rules on who gets kicked or banned
....no rules means admin can ban your ass for lookin ugly, not that any good admin would, but it is their server.

lmfao !!!

[-=3v0=- Maxter]

Wow. So much love and hate in this Thread. Since I'm the "Concervitive" 3v0 member I'll through in my two cents. Yet, I think you'll not bother to pick them up.  First, ya'll are totally correct, it is YOUR server, YOUR clansite, YOUR rules. It just seems that all of the people making the kicking/banning dicisions are doinging alone. Should the clan, as a whole, decide who will make a kick, even for so a ban?

It just seems that 1 or 2 people are making the dicision alone.

No Insane? and managed by 3vo members and 3v0 as a clan. You said "I have never once said i was the leader of 3v0 nor do I want to be.........!!!              
  NO... Wonder.... the kiddies r outta control, theres no head, theres gotta be someone that will take the throne and call the shots, Thats probably where i got the term      
" M I S M A N A G E D " from in the past!!!! Sry you feel the way you do about my style, but maybe you saw the negativity ur clan bring's to our server STOP.... LOOK.......LIS TEN......AND.. ...... LEARN......... .............!!!

It is strange that your not a head of the MAFIA clan, yet you do MOST (Not All) the banning? Why is that?

This is an ADMIN GUIDELINE:

** Do not kick anyone just because they are talking trash or owning you. **

so yes, they can do that. perhaps the admins should read this again...
http://www.mafiaowns.com/showthread.php?t=2556

Why is it, a Head of MAFIA states a rule, yet none follow it?

See, to me. From what I have read in countless posts by many of your clan, there isn't a pecking order. More of a, "Do what I want, or your Screwed" order. I see a good few of your members speaking out against some things, not to be heard. I see I few "Bullheaded" members making all the dicisions w/o clan support. Now, don't get me wrong, It is YOUR clan. I ain't pushing for you to change things, I am just point something out a issue.

The other thing I'd like to point out is. Why is it when a 3v0 member comes here and says sorry and then is trying to be-friend a member or two, there is ALWAYS someone to make fun of that. Like Mr. M@nkey, HardTarget was trying to fix past mistakes with Ratman and others, yet you make fun of him. Why? Is it wrong for us to say sorry, we may have been in the wrong?

Ne way, this isn't a post to stir up more trouble, I just want to help, even though I think it will do nothing. Your server has been up for a long while. So I think you can handle it a good way.

I LOVE YOU ALL!!!

Maxter

[-dicer 02-]

So i could ban you.. its no rules afterall

exactly, but i dont think ya would cuz you know it would make me cry...T_T