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*MAFIA* => Help => Topic started by: *MAFIA* Wasserfaller on October 16, 2007, 11:43:04 PM
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We have two computers at my house, mine, and the one everyone else uses. Both computers have ethernet holes in the back, but the family computer doesn't recognize the ethernet plug for some reason.
This wasn't a problem, because our DSL box had a USB and ethernet slot in the back, so when the ethernet thing didn't work on the family computer, i passed it off and just used the USB option instead.
I bought a router, so both computers can be on the internet at the same time...problem is, the router only takes ethernet (naturally). Roshan tried helping me with this some time ago, he said i needed to find the ethernet driver for the family computer...i couldn't find it.
I think the motherboard is an Intel i850. I'm pretty sure that's what it is, but i might need that program again to check, something called cpu-z i think.
My parents are constantly nagging me to get both of them to have internet access, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Go to Control panel, then to System, then to Hardware, then to Device Manager, now go near the lower part of that screen and look for "Network adapters", if there is a + click on that, what do you see? You should see "Network Controller", this is what runs your ethernet. IF you see a red X there, right click on it and hit "Enable", now your ethernet should work.
If above shows nothing then post back more info after doing above... Take the side of the box and see if you can find the info of the board or do below (like you said above)
Down load CPU-Z from here (http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-141.zip), After starting the program it will take 10 seconds or more to find all the board info, after that go to the "Main Board" tab and let us know what it says. If you can, a screen shot would be best of that window.
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Okay, i took screen shots, but i forgot to attach the one with the "Mainboard" info. It said my motherboard was "Intel i850E"
Here's two other SS.
In the system tab stuff you told me to do, it claims that the ethernet is enabled. I beg to differ!
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotpn3.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuz2im0.jpg
Thanks for helping me out loaded, i remember some jackass dell tech guy tried to help me a year ago with this problem, he couldn't figure it out so he told me to use the USB chord instead. I hope the ethernet ends up working.
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I had a similar problem with an older intel on board ethernet. I tried everything and it didn't work. So I got an ethernet card and it worked perfect.
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Ok lets see... See that red X down in your task bar. Double Click that and see what it says. If it says "1394 Net Adapter" go back into Device manager and Disable "Both" of them, ONLY if you are not using your 1394 plug (looks like this) (http://www.amabilidade2002.com/vd5c.jpg) .
After that unplug then plug back in your ethernet plug from the router or the back of the computer. Lets see what happens.
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intel is bad about the either controller going ape shit. Completely remove the driver then reinstall it. I done this on so many computers with craptel chips its unreal.
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this is what it said when i clicked on the red box in my taskbar.
http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ssyl8.jpg
@Loaded, how do i know if my 1394 plug is in use? What would it be connected to?
@Bone, do you mean just pull it out, blow it off, then plug it back in? Or do you mean re-install the drivers...beca use if you mean re-install drivers, i can't. That's one of the problems, i can't seem to find them.
@Lightning, this might be the ticket, how expensive are they? Is it a plug-n-play kind of thing, just buy new one, take out old, plug in new ethernet port...BAM you're done?
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you have a pro intel chip, means its onboard. you can get a new cheap one to replace it, or just fix the driver, on off issue ;)
or you could set it back to usb off the modem and enable remote desktop and let me, loaded, lightning, take it over and fix it :)
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so if i buy a new one, will it have to be a certain kind? Because the computer is like 6 years old, it might have some outdated slot or something, kinda like AGP or PCIE. Or maybe they haven't changed them, i don't know.
I would love to re-install the drivers and get it to work somehow, but i don't know where to get the drivers from. And if i re-install the drivers it should just work, or do i have to enable something? Explicit step by step instructions please, i am a tad noob.
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I just said let one of us take it over and do it, get the intel pro ve, pro 10/100 driver nub! derr!!!
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Wasserfaller.. . If you have nothing plugged into the back of the computer in the 1394 plug, then you are not using it... Just right click on both of the 1394s in the pic above and hit "disable", don't worry it just turns it off it will still be there if needed.
About the card... They are cheap, see the pic below.
(http://image.compusa.com/prodimages/50/13a8283d-9689-4cb6-bb1b-63c70cae05bb.gif)
You just have to make sure you have a free PCI spot for it, more or less plug and play...
HERE take your pick at NewEgg (http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=27&Tpk=ethernet+card), you don't have to get it at new egg, you can go anywhere even Wal-Mart has them.
But I would like to try and fix it, I had the same problem as you and I am just running the steps to find if the problem is the same.
If you want to keep going do this next. In your pic I want you to delete that "Local area connection #3", make sure your cable is plugged into the computer and router, turn off the computer and turn it back on. Let us know what happens, that connection WILL get remade.
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alright, i'm hell bent on fixing it too, i just wanted to know if there were other options.
Okay, i'm gonna have to disconnect this computer (mine) from the interwebs so i can test your solution out on the family computer. So just delete the connection #3? I'm pretty sure that's the internet one though....
Okay, i'll disable the first two, delete the third. Plug in cord, restart. I'll be back in a bit to let you guys know how it goes.
(btw, i don't think i have PCI ports, it's an older computer, i think my friend said it has AGP ports, but he might have been talking about the vid-card.)
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Yes (do what you said, like I said when you reboot they will be made again) let us know what happens... Your friend is kind of right, he was talking about a PCI Express port for the NEW video cards and that is why he said you have a AGP, AGP is the std for the longest time. Computers have had PCI ports forever, your computer has them, we just have to make sure there is nothing in them so you can put the card in from the above post.
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alright, i disabled the first two, and it wouldn't let me delete the third one. A message came up saying "cannot delete" or something like that.
here's what it looks like.....
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ss2qq7.jpg
I think my PCI port might be filled with our sound card. Are there more than one?
Like i said, it wouldn't let me disable it. Could i try re-installing the drivers? I don't know what they're called, or where to find them...
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Don't worry about the drivers yet, so far they seem to be there because the connection has the right name on it.
You should have more then one PCI spot, 2 or 3 are the norm... All you have to do is open the case and look...
Will look like this (light colored strips), pic below...
Lets try, go to "Start" and look for "Connect To", mouse over that and a new window will pop up, then click on "Show All Connections", now a window called "Network Connections" will open, look for the "connection #3", now right click on that, we are going to try a few things here.
1... click on properties (here is where you have full control over this connection), even here you can work with the connector, see it there in the "connect using"?), now a new window will open, look for "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)", double click that. Make sure there is a dot in "Obtain an IP address automatically", now look at the top tabs, click on "Alternate Configuration" and make sure there is a dot in "Automatic private IP address", close that and down if you wish after the settings have been checked, ok/save if asked.
Now check to see if the computer will go on line.
Just a NOTE, if you see a red X at anytime in your task bar over the 2 little computer screens then we know that connection is DEAD in some way. YES I know I could have had you right click over them to get to the above Windows, but I wanted you to learn (if you didn't already know) how to get there the long way just in case that Icon is not showing up in the task bar.
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I went to the spot you told me to go to, and all those options you told me to enable where already enabled, i didn't change anything.
"obtain IP address automatically" and "automatic private IP address" where already checked.
It still won't go online. Are there any other tricks to get this thing back online? I hope it's fixable...
When we got it from Dell 6 years ago the OS was already on it, it came ready to use. The ethernet connection worked fine right out of the box, but after we re-installed Windows a while ago, it never worked.
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What router are you using?
If you connect the computer directly to the modem does it work?
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What router are you using?
If you connect the computer directly to the modem does it work?
i haven't been using the router, i've been unplugging this one(mine) from the internet and plugging the family computer directly into the modem to see if it works.
I know the router works though, i used it at a LAN game not so long ago.
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lets see you reinstalled windows. and it stopped working. so that tells me windows installed the wrong driver and you have a limited driver for the hardware. dl the correct driver http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/4275/a08/PRO2KXP.exe&agr=&ProductID=407&DwnldId=4275&strOSs=&OSFullName=&lang=eng
six years old I bet you have the ve
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downloaded and installed the drivers you linked, still no luck. Here's a screen shot.
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=notworkinta2.jpg
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then the device has failed, goto step 2 get another card.
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You're dutch aren't you?
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hijack someone else's thread, my problem is more important than yours. By the way, that isn't a question if you don't end it with a question mark.
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Give us that CPU-Z screen you didn't post so we can see the chip on this board, pic below of mine, we need what is circled in red... Before we say the network controller is dead, lets make sure you have the right driver installed.
Just post that pic and I will look for the driver, don't tell me the one you tried I want to see if I pick the same one you did.
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Wouldn't it be funny if all that is wrong is he either didn't hook the cable up right or if the actual cable if bad. ROFL!!!
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Give us that CPU-Z screen you didn't post so we can see the chip on this board, pic below of mine, we need what is circled in red... Before we say the network controller is dead, lets make sure you have the right driver installed.
Just post that pic and I will look for the driver, don't tell me the one you tried I want to see if I pick the same one you did.
here it be
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mainboardjo3.jpg
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intel ve, however, this is wasser. Hes has the brains of a frog and the knowhow of hell. in lamens terms hes a complete retard... just get a cheap nic card and put it in, again that may be 5 pages to do, so pawpaw have fun...
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Bone... That is so easy (um is it, lol) nic cards are just plug-n-play, but again this is a Dell :'(
Wasser... This is our last chance, down load from here (http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/download.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&releaseid=R56484&SystemID=DIM_PNT_P4_8250&servicetag=&os=WW1&osl=en&deviceid=2834&devlib=0&typecnt=0&vercnt=2&catid=-1&impid=-1&formatcnt=1&libid=5&fileid=67420), read all instructions and install.
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zomg, thank you so much for your guys help! I'm actually TYPING THIS FROM THE BROKEN COMPUTER!!!
IT WORKS! I installed the drivers bonehead linked me to, thanks a bunch man, and thanks a bunch loaded for stickin through the whole way. Bone, eventhough you were cynical and made fun of me for being nibbish, you fixed it! Thanks ALL who contributed, now i need to buy them a new AGP vid card so the monitor isn't half green, lol.
Again, thanks a bunch champs
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That always makes you work harder to fix it, we gave you the knowhow and the drivers, all it took was me calling you a nub to show me wrong. Great job!
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That is all it takes, persistent work, doing it this way is allot better then just putting in parts to try and make it an easy fix. Now you have all you need to fix any Nic card problem.
What made the big difference to fixing the problem was the late info you gave on doing a re-install of windows.
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now i just need another ethernet cable, i only have two! My dad already bought a USB to Ethernet adapter because he thought it might work, and he doesn't have the reciept anymore. It cost 24 bucks, do you think the jerks at Radio Shack would exchange it for an ethernet cable without having a receipt?
Do you think the AGP graphics cards they have at bestbuy would work with the old comp, just plug and play, install drivers, and it should work right? I need to get one so the screen doesn't look so bad.
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I would say maybe on the cable if you have the RS box it came in.
Opening a new can of worms with the Video card, remember you have a Dell. I am NOT saying Dells are bad, but some do not like/let you upgrade.
To start do you have a video card installed now or are you using "on board" graphics?.
Here use this tool (link below) and post the results (I know I find the cool stuff).
DOWN LOAD GPU-Z (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/776/TechPowerUp_GPU-Z_v0.0.1.html)
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I would say maybe on the cable if you have the RS box it came in.
Opening a new can of worms with the Video card, remember you have a Dell. I am NOT saying Dells are bad, but some do not like/let you upgrade.
To start do you have a video card installed now or are you using "on board" graphics?.
Here use this tool (link below) and post the results (I know I find the cool stuff).
DOWN LOAD GPU-Z (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/776/TechPowerUp_GPU-Z_v0.0.1.html)
Don't worry, that's one of the few things i actually know how to do correctly, i've switched the graphics card on the dell twice to see if the green monitor was my monitor going bad, or my g-card. I'm not worried about doing that.
Btw, my dell doesn't have on-board graphics, that's why i have a busted one inside my comp that i'm using...if it had on-board i'd definitely use it.
Anyway, a new problem has come my way....interne t doesn't work on the dell now. It did when i had the ethernet going directly from the DSL box to the comp, but when i hooked it up to the router, nothing. BUT, it works fine on my computer.
I have the cabled hooked up correctly....i t goes
DSL box --(ethernet cable)--Router--(ethernet cable)---Dell and my comp
I know it has to be set up right somehow because it works on mine just fine. Also, you know that little icon in my task bar that had two computer monitors with a Red X going through it? Well, now it has two computers with a yellow triangle warning sign instead.
I know this must be a bitch trying to figure out, but i'd appreciate some help. Thanks.
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Fuck man you should just turn everything fucking wireless. I bet you would be alot better off.
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stfu hell you are going to cause us all kinds of grief...
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Go fuck yourself. How am I going to do that? All he has to do is put a fucking Desktop Network Card into the slot where he put the ethernet hook up. It is fucking easy, so blow me!!!!!
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Fuck man you should just turn everything fucking wireless. I bet you would be alot better off.
i was seriously considering it, but all my friends with wireless (except one) always has really really really shitty download speed/lag/poor connection quality/fail.
I was gonna get a wireless/wired combo router, but it was 60 bucks, so i figured "fuck it"...i wish i had spent a bit more and bought it though.
Anyways, any ideas for my new problem?
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yeah hell, stfu,gtfo,nobcakes rofltrain imo fag mustard crates salt pepper.
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Don't back talk me you arab ass ramming camel fucker. Anything new will blow his little stoned mind and cause pawpaw to get nervous and blow dust out of his old ass.
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Don't back talk me you arab ass ramming camel fucker. Anything new will blow his little stoned mind and cause pawpaw to get nervous and blow dust out of his old ass.
i don't have a little mind, i'm just not very tech-savvy. That's why i'm consulting you guys, that is, unless you're stumped and don't know the reason...
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unless you're stumped
Its drunk, unless your too DRUNK and dont know the answer. <3 bone you drunk sob.
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im not drunk for fuck sakes! i post anything and "oh hes just drunk" wtf about you? are you drunk? stoned? fuck off...
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im not drunk for fuck sakes! i post anything and "oh hes just drunk" wtf about you? are you drunk? stoned? fuck off...
No im black get it right....
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spam less please, i need this resolved. Hopefully loaded/balth/sober bone will throw me a useful response so i can get this fixed.
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FUCK YOU! how about that? just fuck you to hell!...
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what kind of a router is it? model? cuz sometimes if you install some stuff from a cd or their website, it might get it working. i have never done this, but i know they give cd's with the router usually.
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what kind of a router is it? model? cuz sometimes if you install some stuff from a cd or their website, it might get it working. i have never done this, but i know they give cd's with the router usually.
it said on the box that it's a "plug and play" model that doesn't need software. It works fine for my computer, but it doesn't establish a connection with the dell for some reason. It's a d-link router.
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try these sites and read like each point.
http://support.dlink.com/faq/top20.asp
oh check this. u select ur model and everything and then it has guides and FAQ's on installation and everything. i'll try to help u out more later, right now gotta get ready for tomorrow.
after u find out ur model number try going to downloads page and they have this app i think that takes care of everything
http://support.dlink.com/downloads/#
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FUCK! I found the model i have (DES-1105), the chump at OfficeMax told me
"this is all you need if you have two computers, a DSL box, and you want both to be able to connect at the same time to the interwebs"
So i buy it, and after all this long ass trouble shooting crap, i get this message on their tech support site (this is referring to my model of "router")
Question: Why can´t I share my Internet connection to multiple computers when using my D-Link switch or hub?
Answer: If you are connecting directly to a Cable or DSL modem, you will need a router to share your Internet connection or a computer using ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) or Proxy. Switches and hubs do not allow you to share a single IP address to multiple computers.
The fucker sold me a HUB? WTF is that?! I said router, he handed me this piece of shit, and now i can't get internet on both computers. What a fucking rip. Good thing i kept the receipt, and i remembered the asshole's name too, that shit head "Eli"
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You are someone what of a retard. I was pretty close when I said it being the eithernet cable. ROFLMAO. Well it is good to see that I do know more about computers than atleast one person.
Love ya Wasser! Thanks for making me feel smart for once.
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Well it is good to see that I do know more about computers than atleast one person.
I always thought you were a complete idiot.
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your all idiot ass clowns...
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your all idiot ass clowns...
rofl, i'm tearing Eli at Officemax a new one tomorrow, his fault. I said what i wanted, he understood, then gave me this shit. It looked kosher so i hooked it up. That shit better give me a refund...
In my defense, the picture on the back contradicts what it really does. It shows a little tree diagram that goes like this....
DSL/Cable Modem
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D-Link router
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computer computer
What they fail to mention is, that D-link router isn't what you're buying, it's actually a home network hub that's in the box. Oh well, at least EVERYTHING ELSE works fine, like the dell and my computer. Thanks a lot bone and especially loaded and all others who chipped in, even if i did have the right router i doubt the dell would be working right now if it weren't for you fools.
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fuck you and thanks. smack ur brother kraut for me.