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[shooter04]

servers need admin that do their jobs, like StEwIe_GrIfFoN

[*MAFIA* Beatlejuice]

I don't think he is an admin, what are you talking about.

[shooter04]

he's not?  well he did a good job when i was playing with him the other day.  he helped that ARMYRANGER guy find the cheats - did his job as a mafia

[*MAFIA* Beatlejuice]

What do you mean he helped him "find the cheats"  And how would that make him an admin...

[shooter04]

i didn't know he wasn't an admin when i said he was.  however, i am NOW saying that he did his job as a member of the MAFIA clan.  

i think the armyranger guy couldn't get the cheats to work, and he stayed with him for a long time until he got it working.  i thought that was pretty cool because most ppl would be jerks about it and say, "you're on ur own!"  i just hope that others follow his example.

a couple of MAFIA members have been jerks as i have seen.  GWAR for example, has not been a very responsible admin.  he tries to ruin the game for some ppl.  not me, but others.  i know that that is not what MAFIA stands for.  im not here to insult any1, just trying to get some changes.  thanks a lot!

[*MAFIA* Beatlejuice]

a couple of MAFIA members have been jerks as i have seen.  GWAR for example, has not been a very responsible admin.  he tries to ruin the game for some ppl.  not me, but others.  i know that that is not what MAFIA stands for.  im not here to insult any1, just trying to get some changes.  thanks a lot!

Not to be a "jerk" but go to http://www.mafiaowns.com
Read right under where it says "Welcome to *MAFIA*"

"What we stand for

Mafia believes in having fun since we are a group of friends and a clan we do not care for rankings. We do however care about our reputation we wan't a universal reputation to be known as Cheating game wreckers."

You said you know that is not what MAFIA stands for.  But have you read that?  I'll agree, GWAR can be annoying, but sometimes thats the point.  We like to mess with people and watch them complain.

You haven't insulted me, and I hope I'm not getting on your nerves.

[shooter04]

all right, all right.  u wanna be game wreckers and i understand.  but it also says "Have fun" and being targeted is not having fun.  when i say targeted, i mean following and trying to kill only one person.  he certainly wrecked that guy's game.  MAFIA has contradictory rules.  so tell me, which is more important?

and ur not a jerk from what i have seen

[*MAFIA* Beatlejuice]

OK, so is that what you are trying to ask:

What is more important to *MAFIA* - wrecking the game or having fun?

I can't speak all of us, but I don't think we value one over the other.  It varies from person to person.  Personally, I just like to have fun.  Every now and then someone will get annoying and I'll mess with him.  But most of the time I'm just having fun.  I usually try to help people out.  Some other guys purposely go in there to screw things up.  Overall, I think most of us just like playing Battlefield, like hacks, and like mods.  

Like I said, thats just my opinion and I am not the sole representative of all of *MAFIA*.  Neither is Stewie, Gwar, or anyone else.  We are a clan (obviously) and you will see variations.  I hope that helps you out.

[shooter04]

do you kick and ban ppl that prevent others from having fun?

what is your policy?

[*MAFIA* Beatlejuice]

My policy is that I kick and ban people (meaning you) for having personal conversations with me on the forum.  Send me a PM, IM on AIM, or get on Ventrillio.

[Missa]

GWAR for example, has not been a very responsible admin.

Umm... I don't think GWAR is a server admin either.

[shooter04]

he warns ppl that he will ban them.  terror tactics, eh?

[Rahl]

Boy, wasn't this a friendly little thread.  "I'm not being mean."  "You're not a jerk."  It feels so odd...I don't like it.

Fuck people who come into this server, get their ass owned by someone far their superior, then spend the next three maps saying, "mafia are hackers!  Kick mafia!  I'm my sister's fuck toy."  And don't even get me started about people who can't get it through their heads that we're not going to help them on the roof in Stalingrad, behind the wall in Berlin, or in the Skybox on Invasion.

I agree with what you said though about Stewie helping.  That was cool of him.  Stewie for President!

[Loaded]

I agree with what you said though about Stewie helping.  That was cool of him.  Stewie for President!

Well we will just have to see what he was helping with. I am sure MAFIA knows what I mean.

[Ins4n3]

I smell PUSSY! Is that you Banks? I smell PUSSY! Is that you Tony? I smell PUSSY! It's a FUCKING GAME!

And Gwar is an admin.