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MeZmoriZe

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« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2005, 08:39:05 PM »

Quote from: iLLUSi0N
1 - .999999999~ = .0000000000000~1

The one at the end means that you will never reach 0. That's the conpept of infinity: getting infinitly close to the number but never reaching it. Just because you'll never reach the one at the "end" of the zeros doesn't mean that it's not there. The only number that you can subtract from 1 and reach 0 is 1.

No, if you really think about it.  If you take 1-.99999999~, you will get .0000000~.  Since its an infinitive, it will never have a 1 in it.  Thus, making another example proving .9999~=1.  Thank you for that.;)
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You stupid fucks !!
« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2005, 09:26:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Deathwish: No, if you really think about it. If you take 1-.99999999~, you will get .0000000~. Since its an infinitive, it will never have a 1 in it. Thus, making another example proving .9999~=1. Thank you for that.


Here you make a big mistake because,

0,00000~ is also an infinity and is not the same as ZERO!!
Zero plus 0,9~ will still be 0,99999~
But 0,00000~ plus 0,99999~ makes ONE!!

Fucking nerdy IDIOTS, lol
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« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2005, 10:00:23 PM »

.0000~ is still zero you twat cuz there is no amount in that number.  And again, everyones math is still wrong.  .88889 only comes out on calculators because it doesn't have an infinitive sign, it rounded off obviously and the number came to a stop.  Infinitive numbers never come to a stop therefore .9999~ can never be 1 since 1 is a number that is whole.
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« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2005, 11:46:59 PM »

Quote from: Death.Wish
No, if you really think about it.  If you take 1-.99999999~, you will get .0000000~.  Since its an infinitive, it will never have a 1 in it.  Thus, making another example proving .9999~=1.  Thank you for that.;)


Just because you can't write out 0.0000000~1 on paper doesn't mean that you can count the 1 at the "end" out. The ~1 is a concept that it gets as close to 0 but never reaches 0.

Oh, and go to your computer's calculator. Type in 1 - .99999999 (as many 9s as it will allow). The answer you will get is:

.0000000000000 000001

The 1 at the end is the concept of the ~1. You might not be able to prove or disprove it with calculators or on paper, but it's there... just like ~9 is there at the "end" of .999999999~

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Another aspect: I realize that the infinancy never ends, but what hasn't been mentioned is that the farther to the right you go, the smaller that number is worth. Which brings in another theory: half life. Examples:

Ex 1) If I walk half the distance from here to uptown, and then half the distance from that point to uptown, then half the distance from that to uptown, etc... I will NEVER reach uptown.

Ex 2) If I go 99% of the way to uptown, and then go 99% of the way from that point to uptown, and then go 99% of the way from that point to uptown, etc... I will NEVER reach uptown.

Ex 3) If I go 99% of the way from 0 to 1 (.99), and then go 99% of the way from that point to 1 (.9999), and then go... etc... It will NEVER reach 1. Ever.

You could keep going to the right forever, but eventually you would need that ~1 to tip the number over to a whole number of 1. Word.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2005, 11:53:24 PM by iLLUSi0N »
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« Reply #49 on: December 15, 2005, 05:32:04 AM »

Did you know 1 = 2 as well?  So then...  .9999999 = 2    :)   and "something" = "nothing", but "something" does not = "no thing".  So, "no thing" cannot = "nothing"...  Oh, and up is down, right is left, top is bottom, inside is outside...   Okay, sorry, continue the nerd debate.
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« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2005, 05:58:25 AM »

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Dude, subtract .99999999999 from 1. You get .000000000000r epeating1, not .1111111. Now if the 0s are repeating, you would never get to the one at the end, so its actually not even there, making 1-.999999=.0000000000

.99999999 to the infinite can't be subtracted from anything because it never ends so there is no place to start to subtract unless u round it to 1
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« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2005, 07:29:06 AM »

I think everyone will agree on two things:

1/9 = .1111111111~
8/9 = .8888888888~
Agreed?  Simple enough, right?

Now, let's do two equations:
[COLOR="Red"]1/9 + 8/9 = 1[/COLOR].  Agreed?  Okay.  Now, let's do some substitution.
[COLOR="Red"](.11~)+(.88~) = .99999999~[/COLOR] or just plain old [COLOR="Red"][SIZE="4"]1[/SIZE][/COLOR].

Now if this doesn't settle it, I really don't know what would.
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« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2005, 08:11:49 AM »

For the ones that say that 0,9999~ is the same as one (Elliot):

By thinking this, you are denying the existence of infinity!!
But our mathematics are based on the idea of infinity, think about it:

When you start counting from ZERO up, you will end up in infinity.
When you start counting from ZERO down, you will end up in infinity.
Every DEFIND number is a part of this infinity, it is REAL

Every DEFIND thing exists in this infinity, they are the opposites:
Something DEFIND can't exist without infinity surrounding it,
This infinity makes it possible for things to be DEFIND!!

I think that the ones trying to explane infinity mathematically
are just narrow minded!!
« Last Edit: December 15, 2005, 08:28:25 AM by Koekiemonster »
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« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2005, 09:38:22 AM »

At least we can spell defined correctly.
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« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2005, 09:42:42 AM »

Quote from: *MAFIA* Elliott Smith
I think everyone will agree on two things:

1/9 = .1111111111~
8/9 = .8888888888~
Agreed?  Simple enough, right?

Now, let's do two equations:
[COLOR="Red"]1/9 + 8/9 = 1[/COLOR].  Agreed?  Okay.  Now, let's do some substitution.
[COLOR="Red"](.11~)+(.88~) = .99999999~[/COLOR] or just plain old [COLOR="Red"][SIZE="4"]1[/SIZE][/COLOR].

Now if this doesn't settle it, I really don't know what would.


I understand what you're saying, but you can't turn 1/9 into .11111111~ and expect that it will be mathematically sound. By using .11111111~ with addition, you're treating it like it's an actual number instead of a concept.

Now, if you're saying that 1/9 = .111111111 because it's close enough not to make too big of a difference, then sure. Then I'd agree that .9999999~ = 1 because the difference between them is unmeasurably small and pointless. I'm just saying that that doesn't mean there isn't a difference. Who's up for a new debate? lol
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« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2005, 09:43:33 AM »

Either move this to Flame or close it.  It's getting annoying and people will never totally agree.  This seems like the concept of Hacking and whether or not it should be done.  People are always going to argue about it and it leads to no where.

It think CookieMonster (yes I spelled it actually correctly) was a poet in a past life and that's why he contines to write in Poetic format.  Either that or he's a moron.

BTW... don't come back with "You spelled your name wrong."  I didn't.
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« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2005, 09:46:03 AM »

Yeah I did it. Sorry, Havok is right. When I go to heaven Ill ask God what he thinks.
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« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2005, 01:38:33 PM »

OR...  you could have just moved it to spam...  :)
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Re: Uncle Rahl Wants You!
« Reply #58 on: March 06, 2010, 07:24:17 PM »

This was/is a nice conversation.  All of you new people should read it and respond, or at least just think about it.
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Re: Uncle Rahl Wants You!
« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2010, 08:35:13 PM »

Hell, good news! Your penis isn't .9999999999999, it is really 1 inch!
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