yeah that means that if you believe in jesus, (meaning that you have faith in him and do god's will, not just say oh i believe and jesus and there) then you will get eternal life.
That's exactly what I ment, it's not just believing. It's about doing God's will, and believing that it is the right way to live, to take his examples and if you need to, you sacrifice your son for the greater cause like he did etc ... How many of todays Christan's can say they are treuly the followers of God, and that their one and only goal in live is to serve his will, I bett not even 5%. Most people these days just say they believe, so they can be sure of an afterlive, they think. They don't even go to church on sundays anymore. This is not the way it was ment to be. You either treuly "believe" like Chris was saying, or you just don't believe at all.
Well my bible says it was all created in 6 days. If you want a bible debate just ask I can help. I spent many years in school refining what I believe instead of the propoganda that the Govt. told me I needed to learn. You may wanna break out a Bible, I think you should try KJV very easy to read and read the first book its called Genesis. It explains a lot. There are many forshadows of the trinity, the idea of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Verse 1 creation of the universe and man. Verse 7 tells about how the flood and how this created the first rains. Before this there was no storms or rain. Just dew in the morning. Verse 11 tells about the seperation and how god eventually created numerious races as a punishment to man. Even Verse 16 talks about the creation of the crazy Muslim sect that we refer to as Al-Quida. And I can go on and on. But hey this was written thousands of years ago how can they predict the rise of Christian haters.
Peace.
I know these verses about the creation of everything, it is just that I don't believe one word of them. There is nothing special about them, I myself could have come up with something like that for people to believe in. There is no sence in debating the Bible with me Lightning, you believe it and I don't. Also, the stuff you are referring to are just some events that presumably happened by the one who wrote them down, it has totally nothing to do with the essence of being a true Christian. As I said before, I don't think you understand what is ment by "BELIEVING" in God. It is not about reading up on stuff from the Bible, it is about accually executing these believes in your live. You are making a big mistake, thinking you will end up in heaven by just saying that you believe and that the Bible is right. It is not ment to be that easy.
Now then Beetle, do you still wanna tell me that I don't understand??
that's a subtlety that's often overlooked i think...whenev er i see a picture of jesus, he's always white. If he came from the middle east, i bet he'd be a hairy dark-skinned man, not some aryan blonde that he is often depicted to be. Just something that's bothered me for a while...
Don't forget that it says in the Bible, he is the son of God, so he is not really from the middle-east!!
