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What is the difference between a Cadillac and a dozen 11 year-old boys?




...you don't have a Cadillac in your garage.

My avatar says it all...

Shush you. You used to be one of the fairies.

Don't you remember your old sig?

DOA only lost all user accounts going back to May 11th. Everything else, including all posts, were not lost.

We could back up our database more often...it is just that...well... I don't care. In fact, it should be a crime just how much I don't care.

DAMN, that sounds like pwnage to me!  Kinda reminds me of how the Americans WON ww1 and ww2.

Err. The United States didn't take part militarily in WWI. As for WWII, the US dropped two atomic bombs on the Japs - basically ending the war.

So...I don't really see how banning somebody is like, even fucking near the realm of dropping two atomic bombs...but hey...close enough.

I'm student at Miami University of Ohio. I'm double majoring in Political Science and Comparative Religion. I'm planning to go onto graduate school after I finish my undergraduate studies. This summer I've secured an internship at the Ohio House of Representative s. I'm not bragging about myself, I'm just letting you know that I'm not a 13 year old who only reads blogs and repeats what he hears on the television. As a moderate Republican, I keep up with both sides of world and domestic politics and I have a fairly firm grasp on what I'm talking about. Please don't treat me like I don't.

Let me first start off by saying that I am glad to see that MAFIA isn't totally composed of people like...well, ICEMAN. I am also glad to see that you do display some level of intelligence and thus I will change my tone of voice with you to synchronize with your level of dialect (in other words, I won't be calling you a fucking idiot as much). Let me also take some time to make fun of you for double majoring in Political Science and Comparative Religion - two very useless majors. Might as well have majored in Ballroom Dancing.

Okay, we're splitting hairs here, don't you think? I realize that Osama bin Laden is not the embodiment of terrorism on earth. I realize that if he were vanquished, terrorism would not magically disappear forever. Terrorism has been around for ages (Hitler, Stalin, IRA, PLO, and many, many more) and if history has taught us anything, it's that there will always be a challenge to power.

But you said in your previous post that indeed Osama Bin Laden = Terrorism. I commented back telling you, in essence, that at one point we were his ally and the US was supporting "terrorism" against the Russians. I am saying here that depending on whose side you look at it from - you're either a terrorist or your a freedom fighter.

Since we're on the end of the beating stick we're the ones whining about it rather than looking at it from Bin Laden's perspective.

However, Osama bin Laden is not just a person, he represents the organization he started back in the early '90s (al Qaeda). Just as we casually refer to American forces as "Bush" (allow me to cite this here) we can surely refer to the terrorist group al Qaeda as bin Laden, can't we?

Ok. We can make that association that Bin Laden = Terrorism. Alright. So using this association, what the fuck are were we doing in Iraq hunting down Saddam?

Let me begin by explaining to you what terrorism is. Terrorism is defined as "a particular kind of asymmetric warfare" which invloves four major elements:
1) Premeditation, the decision by a perpetrator to commit an act to instill terror or fear in others.
2) Motivation or a cause, whether it be political, religious or economic.
3) Targets, usually noncombatants, such as political figures, bureaucrats, or innocent bystanders.
4) Secretiveness, where perpetrators belong to clandestine groups or are secretly sponsored by states.

Thanks. You just described any pharmaceutical company, life insurance company, car company, etc.

1) "You're going to die because you have a disease/you're not insured/you're not driving a Chevy.
2) Economic.
3) The General Public.
4) Do you know what any of these companies are doing on the inside? No.

As for warfare, well Capitalism is warfare. So yeah. Like I was saying. That must mean we're all a bunch of terrorists in one way or another.

This is exponentially different than your paranoid delusions of corporations being war machines that dispose of customers that complain too much about how their shampoo made their eyes sting. I'm not saying that corporations don't make people "disappear." I'm well aware of this. The difference is that what they're doing does not fall into the category of terrorism. Their tactics are completely different, despite what you say. Corporations are in the limelight of the government, constantly monitored and altered to remove monopolies and busted for embezzlement, etc. Terrorist groups operate below the radar. They do use different tactics. Never will a corporation be accused of terrorism by the judicial system, I guarentee it.

Who said terrorism needs some paticular tactic to work? The only reason companies get away with it is because they commit warfare on the system itself by using money as their WMD. Money talks. Everywhere. Just because it is legal doesn't mean its morally correct. I'm sure if there is a large company that sold 16 oz. boxes of terrorism, it would not only be made legal but all states would be forced to sell it in school vending machines as part of some after school jihad training.

"Most of the prisoners, however—by the fall there were several thousand, including women and teen-agers—were civilians, many of whom had been picked up in random military sweeps and at highway checkpoints."

These prisoners are Iraqis, in Iraq, from Iraq. Why would the military waste money on prisoner transport halfway around the world when they could get the same results from Guantanamo Bay, just a short flight from Florida? Even if they decided to take him to Iraq, it his highly doubtful that it was because he "looked at a woman the wrong way."

Because the military has a budget of ~400 billion dollars. They're not exactly pinching pennies. As for the reason behind taking them to Iraq - the farther away you are the more you can get away with. Why the hell do you suppose we're using Guantanamo Bay in Cuba as a jail? Far from most prying eyes.

You're not serious, are you? They don't care? .... Or maybe I just misinterpreted what you meant by that quote.

I worded it incorrectly - they wouldn't care who you are or what you say to cut your head off. They'd just cut your head off for simply being there.

Bullshit also means "unacceptable" .... meaning that what they did was wrong and should not have happened. Once more: he doesn't think that this was fabricated. Stag, step in and prove me right will ya?

From the audiance here at these forums, I highly believe that Stag was implying that it never happened and that it was all make-believe - in other words, fabricated. I really don't think from how he put it that he was in any sort of disbelief.

Bullshit, in his context, clearly didn't imply "unacceptable" since we're talking to a person that feels the need to write in colorful text. I can't imagine he would know the difference between acceptable and unacceptable.

However, Stag will probably step in and then subsequently drool on the floor.

Seriously programmer, your arguments are undersupported, lack cohesion, and at some instances you sounded like a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of persecution.

I don't generally feel like I need to take the time to support anything I say on these paticular forums since the majority of the clan and the other forum members only have enough brain cells to respond with something like owned.

As for being a paranoid schzophrenic - I can assure you I'm perfectly fine. I however don't believe everything my government tells me.

As for your avatar, it is verrry interesting... but stupid.

Its a fucking avatar. It has bush in it with a Hitler moustache. What more do you need for a game forum?

You should stick to spineless conspiracy theories.

It is better than taking everything at face value as you seem to enjoy doing quite a lot.

And to think, I could have been throwing a frisbee or something instead of explaining things that could have been gathered from my first post and a little independent online research.

But why waste my own time when I can just as easily waste yours?

P.S. I live for this shit. I very well know that neither of us are going to change our positions on terrorism. I mean, this is a topic on a Battlefield 1942 website... seriously... it's not like either of us are published. All in all, I welcome any other input from Programmer whether it is in agreement or otherwise.

I find this shit something interesting to talk about but not something I live for.  

I do however have to admit that I am glad to see there are MAFIA members on these boards that have the ability to respond back with more than owned. I was quite suprised actually to find somebody that puts up a decent argument. If I would have know what I was up against - I would have orginized my thought a bit better. But seeing that I was responding to some MAFIA member the only thing I was prepared for was an argument with a half-wit moron. I was proven wrong.

holy shit illusion thats long as fuck but i still read it and you owned him again 2 for illusion 0 for programmer good stuff

Emphasis mine.

Here an equation for you programmer, programmer1=Fucking idiot.

Coward.

The only problem with your claim is that the last time I ever connected to your ventrilo server was like a month ago. In fact, the last time I even went on our ventrilo was more than a week ago.

The odd thing is that we never get such weird fuckers in our vent. This just means that for some reason, *MAFIA* seems to attract gay dudes...I wonder why. Probably because ICEMAN is some kind of gay code name for "Glory Hole Operator."

So, in conclusion,

OWNED PWNED LOL NEWB. TOTALLY FUCKING OWNED TIMES 1.5 x 10^34. FOOL. HAHA. KTHXBYE

You have really got to stop blaming your father's internet fetishes on me.

Lol. And to think you actually had some real gangster shit going on. Mexican gangster my ass...


Laaz, I think I found a picture of your mom: