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Koekiemonster

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« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2005, 04:59:20 AM »

I think your right phantom,

Besides Elliot says theres no number between 0,9~ and 1,
but that doesn't mean they are the SAME number.
Mathematically they could also follow each other up!!
And quess what, THEY DO!!

Also If I had only a 0,9~ computer instead of a whole one,
then I probably would't even be able to post this message, haha.

You guys must be crazy, lol
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« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2005, 05:07:59 AM »

Well I am out of this I said my peace, you nerds can fight over it all day.
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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2005, 05:14:20 AM »

Holy crap, talking about numbers! I don't even know where you guys are talking about!
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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2005, 05:53:55 AM »

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Elliot says that there is no number between .999 to infinite and 1 but that is because there is no end to the number .999 to infinite. Technically .9999 is not a number at all if it is not complete.


.999 repeating is complete.  Just because we cannot comprehend it's finality doesn't make it unequal to 1.  Also, pi is a repeating number which we cannot follow to it's end, but I bet you'd accept it as true when you realize that it's merely the fraction 22/7, just as .999 repeating is the fraction 1/1.  booyakasha

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Besides Elliot says theres no number between 0,9~ and 1,
but that doesn't mean they are the SAME number.
Mathematically they could also follow each other up!!
And quess what, THEY DO!!


Yeah, actually no two numbers CAN follow each other.  There's always one between them.  That's called infinity.  When there ceases to be that infinity, that's called being finite.  That is, the numbers are themselves and each other.  They're equal.

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Hello Peoples,

I would still like to add someting to this discussion.

I read the artikel and mathematically you could get to
the illusion that 0,9 invenite equals 1.
But if this where really to be true, then logically
1,9 invenite should equal 2, and anny other number taken
to invenit should eventually become the number following it up.

If this where true, then every number is really no different then
anny other number.
Then that means we shouldn't be able to count, but we can!!
So 0,9 invenite does not really equal 1, it's only very close to it!!

How about that??


You're dumb.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2005, 06:01:11 AM by Elliott Smith »
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Koekiemonster

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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2005, 06:31:16 AM »

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Yeah, actually no two numbers CAN follow each other. There's always one between them. That's called infinity. When there ceases to be that infinity, that's called being finite. That is, the numbers are themselves and each other. They're equal.


Look, I understand what you mean by being finite,
but when something is infinite it's exactly that INFINITE,
or NOT DEFIND, so it's accually nothing in specific.

So in the way we use mathemathics you can't really say
that they are the same number when there is an infinity between them.

I don't think anny of us primates understand the way infinity works
or even what it is. If you could you would be living and thinking
in a whole diffrent dimenson all together!! So let us primates with our
primitive mathematics just leave it to rest for now and start gaming!!

PS: I think when somebody is as quick to judge (like you) that
someone is dumb, he himself must not be very smart either!!
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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2005, 08:51:51 AM »

But Infinity is a THEORY not FACT. You cant see it. So how can you have PROOFS from THEORY? I do believe in God, but I dont have set proof. You cant grasp infinity. You cant put infinity in a super computer and get an infinate answer. You've all been sweet talked into thinking something otherwise. You have to look at facts.
The CALCULATOR makes it =1 becuase theres nothing else for it to compute it to. You can also spell boobs on the calculator but those are just theory boobs. Just becuase the calculator says it is doesnt make it so. .9999 to infinity is .9999 to infinity. Not 1. Again...how can you have a PROOF of something that isn't tangable? Just the website alone contratics itself.
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« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2005, 09:20:33 AM »

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Original message by Thasnyper
But Infinity is a THEORY not FACT. You cant see it. So how can you have PROOFS from THEORY? I do believe in God, but I dont have set proof. You cant grasp infinity. You cant put infinity in a super computer and get an infinate answer. You've all been sweet talked into thinking something otherwise. You have to look at facts.
The CALCULATOR makes it =1 becuase theres nothing else for it to compute it to. You can also spell boobs on the calculator but those are just theory boobs. Just becuase the calculator says it is doesnt make it so. .9999 to infinity is .9999 to infinity. Not 1. Again...how can you have a PROOF of something that isn't tangable? Just the website alone contratics itself.


Thank you very much THASNYPER !!!
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« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2005, 09:43:13 AM »

this thread is a crock of SHIT! thanks alot rahl for making us think so god damn hard about something so fucking stupid like the number 1!
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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2005, 10:37:17 AM »

I agree, Snyper. .99999~ is as close to 1 as mathematically possible but never reaches it. Just because 1/3 = .3333333~ on a calculator and if you multiply that by x3 you get .999999~ means that it equals one. It's all theory, not a fact that you can prove on a calculator.
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« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2005, 11:09:08 AM »

my final touch to this.   ok you know that any decimal goes like this  ..777777777777 78.  it always ends with the next number depending on how much it is that you are dealing with. .88888888889 therefore .99999999=1 if you go up to the next number which my Calculus teacher with a PhD told me about. so for any number it goes like this .1111111111111 12,  .222222222223, .3333333333333 333334, .4444444444445, .5555555555555 6, .6666666666666 7, .7777777777777 78, .8888888888889, and then finally 9 would equal 1.
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« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2005, 11:35:51 AM »

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Example.  You have an apple, you have a .11111 to the infinite piece missing from it therefore it's not a whole apple and never will be.

Dude, subtract .99999999999 from 1. You get .000000000000r epeating1, not .1111111. Now if the 0s are repeating, you would never get to the one at the end, so its actually not even there, making 1-.999999=.0000000000
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« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2005, 12:13:35 PM »

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But Infinity is a THEORY not FACT. You cant see it. So how can you have PROOFS from THEORY? I do believe in God, but I dont have set proof. You cant grasp infinity. You cant put infinity in a super computer and get an infinate answer. You've all been sweet talked into thinking something otherwise. You have to look at facts.
The CALCULATOR makes it =1 becuase theres nothing else for it to compute it to. You can also spell boobs on the calculator but those are just theory boobs. Just becuase the calculator says it is doesnt make it so. .9999 to infinity is .9999 to infinity. Not 1. Again...how can you have a PROOF of something that isn't tangable? Just the website alone contratics itself.

First of all, it's an abstract concept, not a theory.  Even and odd numbers are concepts, yet we can use them to prove that any two odd numbers, when added together, will yield an even number.  Or an odd and an even make an odd.  All of mathematics is based on a concept.

Shit, one of the axioms we base our numbering system on is the Trichotomy Principle -- meaning that two numbers are either related by less than, greater than, or equal two.  But this is just a concept seeing as how our numbers were arbitrarly chosen and ordered.  Yet I doubt you would disagree that 0 < 1.  And yes, there is a proof for that as well.
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« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2005, 01:13:57 PM »

i think .99999 = .99999, you cant change it to make it whole. Its like taking a.aaaaaaaa and making it b.
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« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2005, 06:56:44 PM »

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i think .99999 = .99999, you cant change it to make it whole. Its like taking a.aaaaaaaa and making it b.

Hmm thats a tough one. a=b=0
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« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2005, 08:21:04 PM »

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Dude, subtract .99999999999 from 1. You get .000000000000r epeating1, not .1111111. Now if the 0s are repeating, you would never get to the one at the end, so its actually not even there, making 1-.999999=.0000000000


1 - .999999999~ = .0000000000000~1

The one at the end means that you will never reach 0. That's the conpept of infinity: getting infinitly close to the number but never reaching it. Just because you'll never reach the one at the "end" of the zeros doesn't mean that it's not there. The only number that you can subtract from 1 and reach 0 is 1.
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