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*MAFIA* => Help => Topic started by: *MAFIA* Vanilla on January 24, 2006, 04:00:07 PM
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hey guys i am back with yet another computer problem. i dont no what is wrong it will freeze with no warning. just does it randomly. is there anything i can check out. i did a virus scan nothing came up. adaware scan done. not sure what else i can look at but i can't keep freezing all the time.
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I had that problem recently, it was my wireless network card. (Belkin) Got a Linksys and everything is fine.
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ya my comp isn't wireless, i just got a new motherboard and cpu, but it was working great untill recently when it just froze well basically today. ive had the new stuf since well like 3 weeks ago, and it just froze today
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probably got to do somethin with your motherboard. that problem happened to me too.
You shouldn't have that much anti-virus programs installed on your computer. Sometimes they tend to screw up my comps.
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probably got to do somethin with your motherboard. that problem happened to me too.
You shouldn't have that much anti-virus programs installed on your computer. Sometimes they tend to screw up my comps.
anti Virus wont really mess uup ur pc (obviously the name "anti") But it will slow down games some
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it has nothing to do with my games or anything it will just freeze at random times. and i can't do anything but restart it.
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Check your cpu fan make sure it is running and also make sure the cpu is getting cooled enough.
And on some motherboards the chipset will have a heatsink or fan on it to cool it, also check it out.
Sounds like you have an over heating issue also some times if you have a vid card exhausting heat onto another card it can cause that vard to overheat.
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ya all the fans are working and all.
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hey is there a way i can look at how hot and stuff my comp is from my desktop
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Here you go, this one of many programs I use...
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
If you don't like that one, just post and I will give you a different link.
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ok loaded i am going to look stupid but i dont' really know what to do. i am a noob sry
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Just go to this section of the site http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php and look for SpeedFan 4.27 and click on that, it will start to down load to what ever folder you pick. Once it is done just click on the exe and install it, read the "read me" file and now you have a program that will show you temps and fan speeds of your board, it dose allot more but don't mess with that other stuff if you don't know what you are doing... Don't worry you will get warning windows (the program can over clock your CPU and so on) for the stuff you shouldn't touch.
If you need more help let me know or just post here, but I am calling it a night.
FYI... This is just something for you to watch temps and fan speeds this will not fix any problem you are having with lock ups, but it will let you know if it is a temp problem by the readings it gives.
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You can usually check the temp of the cpu in the bios. Some MB's come with a utility so you can monitor the CPU temp you may wanna check the manual. If all else fails when it locks up restart and go into the BIOS and quickly check the temp. I don't know what kind of CPU you have but finding the temp range is usually pretty easy. Bonehead may know more but I think it should be around 34C. I also had a similar problem and as far as I know it was a conflict with my MB and an older video card. Here is a link for heat issues for an Intel P4.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/11/14/the_p4/index.html
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Temps will drop over 25%+ before he ever gets back into the bios... If he keeps the program open that I sent him to, he will see high temps and warnings BEFORE it becomes a problem.
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ok i got the program running, what is good temps for everything.
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ok i got the program running, what is good temps for everything.
It is better for you to give us your temps. Then we can take a look at them.
When you give the temp readings let us know if there is a ^ (rising) or v (lowering) and what temp it is... Like, CPU 35c or temp 1 35c and so on. Give ALL temp readings that speed fan is showing.
After that you will have to do what ever you think is the most demanding on your computer, I guess maybe the newest came you have. Then give us that reading. Just make sure you have speed fan funning in the back ground while you work your computer so we can get a true and fast reading.
EDIT... Also go to the "Charts" tab and check ALL boxes so we can get a chart reading, make sure the "Analyze" Window is set to "temperatures"
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temp 1 77f, temp 2 70f, temp 3 12f, temp 34f, local temp 89f, remote temp 96f, hd0 93f, hd1 97,
fan1; 3245 rpm, fan 2;0 rpm, fan 3 3068 rpm
and all arrows are pointing down. or are a green check mark.
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Ok are you sure the LOW temps are "F" and not "C" (the 12 and 42)?
all the temps are good, was this at idle or with a load on the computer?
Fan speeds are good, don't worry about that 0 rpm fan, I HOPE you just have a fan being looked at by speed fan that you DON'T have on the computer.
Next thing we have to look at is all your volts, this could be a pain in the ass to write down so I am hoping you can take a pic and post it here like I have attached... Also we need to know about the low temps you have above and we need to know if the above temps were under load.
So take a pic and attach it here just like you see mine.
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ok i'll do that when i get home.
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ok here is mine.
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Ok the best I can tell you right now is I think you could have a power supply problem not a over heating problem (not at this point)... If the above readings you have given me are with NO LOAD (I think they are no load because cpu usage is 9.5%), I don't like your 12 volt and 5 volt readings, they are to low with no or a small load on the computer.
What video card are you using?
Next...
Now I need you to play BF or some other program to get your CPU up to 75+% for about 15 minutes or so. Keep speed fan open in the back ground while playing BF and lets see what the readings are for Temps and Volts.
Do NOT shut down BF, I need you to ALT-TAB out of game and take another screen shot of speed fan just like you did before, lets see what the readings are then, I am thinking temp will go up to around 20F higher (that's fine) and I "think" we are going to see your 12v go BELOW a good 12 volt reading, something like 11.85 or less volts and your 5volts could hit in the 4.50 volt range<--- both are not good if I am right.
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ok here ya go and my graphic card is in that box to.
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Well I guess you can tell by your own pictures. That you have a volt problem right from the start under load...
Look at both pictures ALL your volts are out of range, but 1 and that is the +12.
So I think you need a new and BIGGER Power supply unit (PSU).
Do you know the make and size (watts) of the Power supply unit?
How long have you had that 6800 video card? Did the problems of lock ups happen right after getting the card?
My point... IMO your video card is sucking your system dry of volts and watts and that is why you are getting lock ups. So I believe you need a new PSU of 450+ watts, bigger would be better from a well known company.
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right now i have a 400 watt antec psu, and i never had this problem, maybe it is that and the fact thati got a new mb and cpu, maybe with all that it is causing to much, what is a good brand for a psu.
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Here, take your pick... NewEgg Power Supplies (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2000320058+70003114+70001574+70002247+70001570&Subcategory=58&description=&srchInDesc=&minPrice=&maxPrice=&ATTR1=&ATTR2=&ATTR3=&ATTR4=2000320058+70003114&ATTR5=2000320058+70001574&ATTR6=&ATTR7=2000320058+70002247&ATTR8=2000320058+70001570&ATTR9=&ATTR10=). The only one I don't like is the 1st one on the list for $59.99.
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is there anything i need to look for when buying one, liek i noticed that some have a litle thing that tells you the voltage of it, do i need that. so anything like that. llllllllllllll lllll
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No you don't need a voltage monitor if you don't want one. The list I gave you are all fine, just not the 1st one... I guess the 1st one is ok, I just don't like the specs compared to the others per cost.
The Sunbeam NUUO really dose have some nice features for the price, but if you don't want the monitor.
I am not sure how much you want to spend but here is my PSU...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817148019
It is far from the greatest, but it has great power, runs cool (low temps), great price for the watts you get, nice cable setup, 3 fans (if you are into lights, 2 fans light blue) and so on.
Your money, your pick, it is ALL up to you.