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*MAFIA* => Help => Topic started by: *MAFIA* Beatlejuice on January 29, 2007, 09:11:39 PM
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What is the difference between:
- PC3200, DDR 400, 2.6v
and
- PC4000, DDR 500, 2.8v
The second one's numbers are slightly better, but is it worth the $25 difference?
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What is the difference between:
- PC3200, DDR 400, 2.6v
and
- PC4000, DDR 500, 2.8v
The second one's numbers are slightly better, but is it worth the $25 difference?
DDR 400 runs at 400Mhz, DDR500 runs at 500MHz. Higher Mhz= faster pc (when you want to load something or start something up and stuff like that). You first need to see if you motherboard supports DDR-500 ram though.
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Depends beetle, what size is the stick? and why not go for ddr2? its cheaper now and better.
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Depends beetle, what size is the stick? and why not go for ddr2? its cheaper now and better.
then he will probebly have to get a new mobo aswell. But ya, DDR2 is really fast :)
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You can't stick a DDR2 module into a DDR socket. A DDR socket is a 184 pin, as opposed to the 240 pins on DDR2.
You need to check in your MOBO documentation and see what kind of DDR sockets it has. You might even have the DDR2 240pin sockets already - DDR2 comes in ranges of PC2-3200 ( 400Mhz ) to PC2-6400 ( 800Mhz ), so even if your computer has the PC 3200, it might be the DDR2 type.
However, if your sockets are the DDR 184pin, your max speed for memory is 400Mhz, which is the max for DDR! If you have the 184pin type, and try to buy the PC4000, it will simply wont fit.
Now, if you are not sure about the type you have, or can't find the documentation, just pull one module out, and google for 'DDR DIAGRAM' or DDR2 DIAGRAM'. Google will pull up more than enough pics for you to look at and compare the connectors on your memory to the one on screen.
Hope this helps.
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You can't stick a DDR2 module into a DDR socket.
If you try and push it in hard enough, it possibly will fit. Lol.
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That may upply when it comes to a woman, but not memory :)
It won't fit, because the connector part has a gap in it, meaning that the pins are not placed in one straight row. The gap location is different on the two types of memory, and the socket has a divider build into it which won't allign with the gap on a non-matching memory module.
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That may upply when it comes to a woman, but not memory :)
It won't fit, because the connector part has a gap in it, meaning that the pins are not placed in one straight row. The gap location is different on the two types of memory, and the socket has a divider build into it which won't allign with the gap on a non-matching memory module.
It's "apply," not "upply." Easy way to fix that is take a hammer and pound on the stick until it goes in. < (not sexual)
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I didn't have a hammer, but still wanted to try it your way, so I put the module on the floor, and dropped the computer on it... I actually think that it works faster now and gives better gas mileage..
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I don't think I have the option of DDR2, and I don't want to get a new motherboard...
Option 1: http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=DC3F90CBA5CA7304
Option 2: http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=6E5ADBDEA5CA7304
Option 3: http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=D859D210A5CA7304
Option 4: You post it.
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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1071020&Sku=ULT31664&SRCCODE=WEBGOOMEM&CMP=KNC-GOOGL
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Damn beetle you go to one of the most expensive sites for memory lol
Get this and save some cash. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231036)
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BTW Beetlejuice - Are you looking to replace two modules and run in Dual Channel? How much memory r u looking to add? 1 or 2 Gigs? If just one, you might wanna add 2x512 modules and run in dual channel. You can get a 512MB module for about $30...
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I haven't decided if I'm going with two 512mb or two 1gb. Either way, I just wanted to know what is the best one to get. The ones you guys posted, are they compatible with my computer, HP Pavilioin a736n? Thanks for the help guys...
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Yup, memory is memory :)
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Beetlejuice - All the memory modules suggested, will fit your rig. You motherboard configured for the PC3200 / 400 MHz DIMM 184-pin, so that is the max you will be able to run on it. You can actually plug in the 533Mhz 184pin into it, but due to the Memory BUS limitations of your motherboard, it will downscale it and only run at 400Mhz. The only time it will make sence to but the 533Mhz module will be if you will find it on sale or clearance for less than the price of the 400Mhz.
However, in reality, to the average user, the 400Mhz is more than enough. I have a few systems at home, and when running BF1942, UNREAL, Diablo II, and other games, I can't tell the difference in performance.
It all boils down to the video card you have. If you have a decent card, you don't need the fastest memory. Cards are somewhat over rated as well. I am still using the ATI Radeon 9800XT 256MB, and it pulls anything I throw at it even if this card, according to the current trend on the Video Card market, is considered to be a grand grand father.. :)
Now, to your system - usually, that HP model will have the ASUS K8S-LA (Salmon) Motherboard with a Socket 764 AMD Athlon 64 processor. It only has 2 memory slots ( you can see if I am correct by opening the case and peeking inside ). The max memory the MOBO will support is 2MB, 1MB DIMM in each slot. That model usually ships with a total of 512 ( 2 x 256 DIMMs ), and if you decide to upgrade it, you will see a significant boost in performance. My suggestion to you is to go with the 2 x 1 MB, for the maximum supported. Although 1 MB is very common in the computer world, it is still a basic size. 2MB will allow you to run games smoother while other applications are still loaded in the background ( Anti Virus, system updates, windows applications, etc ).
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I haven't decided if I'm going with two 512mb or two 1gb. Either way, I just wanted to know what is the best one to get. The ones you guys posted, are they compatible with my computer, HP Pavilioin a736n? Thanks for the help guys...
go for two 512's, then you have an extra 24mb!
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Beetlejuice, go for the 2MB ( read my previous post on it ).
I also saw your question about the Video Card - It has nothing to do with the system ram.. A stand-alone card will not share your system's memory, but use it's own. That is why a card with at least 256MB is recommended. Some of the mainstream cards on the market today will have 512MB as well. You still want lots of RAM on your system though - it will help when it comes to loading games and accessing game files on your hard drive.
Never get a card from the usual retailer ( Best Buy, Comp USA, Circuit City, etc ). You can get them for almost half the price on ebay, or at an on line store. The best ones would be Newegg.com and TigerDirect.co m.
If you buy on ebay, beware of the chinese knock offs, especially for ATI cards. Read the specifications before you buy. For example, most of the ATI cards have 256bit or 512bit Graphic Interfaces ( not to be confused with 256/512MB memory sizes ), but the most of the ones sold on ebay will have a different design on the cooling fan plate, and will have a 128 BIT interface, which will not allow the card's memory to use it's full potential.
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2MB? wow that is a massive downgrade lol. 2GB?
Wasser, you dumb ass 512+512=1024 a 1GB stick is also 1024 so he wont gain shit. lol go stuff yourself into an oven and bake till golden brown.
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Holy crap, you guys should check out the new ATI 1950XTX! Blazing fast!
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Holy crap, you guys should check out the new ATI 1950XTX! Blazing fast!
Ok...good for you. What does that have anything to do with the original question?
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Everything. Since Beetlejuice, and maybe others, are thinking about speeding up their computer, and might max out their RAM @ 2MB, a faster GC can take it even further. Provided that they have SLI or Crossfire capability.
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Everything. Since Beetlejuice, and maybe others, are thinking about speeding up their computer, and might max out their RAM @ 2MB, a faster GC can take it even further. Provided that they have SLI or Crossfire capability.
True, but i don't think any of us even have dual GC's. Max out your system at 2MB? That's got to be one crappy PC. It's really only going to to make the graphics better/faster, but also going to to take some strain off the CPU.
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That's the pc that Beetlejuice has. The motherboard only has 2 RAM slots in it.
A lesser GC that would work, provided that the pc has an AGP slot, will be the Radeonx800xt, or the GeForce 6800GT. The CPU will be able to support it fully, and 2MB of RAM would be more than enoght to run games with up to 1600 x 1200 resolution.
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That's the pc that Beetlejuice has. The motherboard only has 2 RAM slots in it.
A lesser GC that would work, provided that the pc has an AGP slot, will be the Radeonx800xt, or the GeForce 6800GT. The CPU will be able to support it fully, and 2MB of RAM would be more than enoght to run games with up to 1600 x 1200 resolution.
I'm not going to even bother now. Someone is too dumb to understand something.
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Then don't. Sorry to bother your superior intelect. My intention with my posts is to help, and if you don't need it, just move on. I was answering Beetlejuice's questions anyway, and if he doesn't need my opinion, I am sure he is capable of ignoring them himself.
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However, in reality, to the average user, the 400Mhz is more than enough. I have a few systems at home, and when running BF1942, UNREAL, Diablo II, and other games, I can't tell the difference in performance.
If you can't tell the difference between DDR and DDR2 at 533 Mhz you shouldn't be posting here ...
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Boemann - I can sure tell the spec difference. However, when it comes to performance with BF1942 at the mentioned above resolution, the difference is 2-3 fps, which is really undetectable by the eye.
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Boemann - I can sure tell the spec difference. However, when it comes to performance with BF1942 at the mentioned above resolution, the difference is 2-3 fps, which is really undetectable by the eye.
Performance is more then just FPS...
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Performance is more then just FPS...
Performance is more then just FPS? Doesn't FPS mean Fat People Singing? I find that really entertaining. It is fucking funny as shit. Especially if they are in their underwear. hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahah
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Performance is more then just FPS? Doesn't FPS mean Fat People Singing? I gind that really entertaining. It is fucking funny as shit. Especially if they are in their underwear. hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahah
you freak lol
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no.its not. thats what id do.
EDIT: we don't talk about that here
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You are SO FUCKING gay spartan
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I know that this is not a spam thread but i think that bobby and spartan need to fucking shoot each other. that is it.