*Clears throat, cracks nuckles, etc.*
Maybe if you would read my post a second time and think about what I said, maybe read it a second time to get the full spectrum of what I'm saying, then I wouldn't have to write half of the stuff I'm about to.
First off, I'd like to clear this up:
Programmer_One']
Do you know what that symbol on that hat is and where it came from? No because you are an uneducated moron.
I do read books. I just probably don't read the books you do (like Green Eggs and Ham). And unlike you, I form my own opinions based on what I'm reading, be it from a conservative author or a liberal one, unlike you where you probably fall for every god damn word you read and start waving whatever flag your told to wave.
Hell, I don't even watch the Daily Show nor Colbert Report. But, maybe you should stop sucking on Bill O'Reilly dick for a few minutes and read some books from the other side of the spectrum.
I'm student at Miami University of Ohio. I'm double majoring in Political Science and Comparative Religion. I'm planning to go onto graduate school after I finish my undergraduate studies. This summer I've secured an internship at the Ohio House of Representative
s. I'm not bragging about myself, I'm just letting you know that I'm not a 13 year old who only reads blogs and repeats what he hears on the television. As a moderate Republican, I keep up with both sides of world and domestic politics and I have a fairly firm grasp on what I'm talking about. Please don't treat me like I don't.
Programmer_One']
Terrorism isn't embodied into one fucking person you jackass. If Osama Bin Laden were to be killed right NOW then guess what - terrorism won't just up and die.
Okay, we're splitting hairs here, don't you think? I realize that Osama bin Laden is not the embodiment of terrorism on earth. I realize that if he were vanquished, terrorism would not magically disappear forever. Terrorism has been around for ages (Hitler, Stalin, IRA, PLO, and many, many more) and if history has taught us anything, it's that there will always be a challenge to power.
However, Osama bin Laden is not just a person, he represents the organization he started back in the early '90s (al Qaeda). Just as we casually refer to American forces as "Bush" (allow me to cite this
here) we can surely refer to the terrorist group al Qaeda as bin Laden, can't we?
Programmer_One']
Target non combatants for economic and/or political gains huh? Well that would mean that almost every corporation in the United States is a terrorist. Because if you think they don't use the same tactics - you're wrong. The only exception is that large corporations don't kill people - they make them "disappear".
I hope you weren't trying to shock anyone with this because it's pretty erroneous.
Let me begin by explaining to you what terrorism is. Terrorism is defined as "a particular kind of asymmetric warfare" which invloves four major elements:
1) Premeditation, the decision by a perpetrator to commit an act to instill terror or fear in others.
2) Motivation or a cause, whether it be political, religious or economic.
3) Targets, usually noncombatants, such as political figures, bureaucrats, or innocent bystanders.
4) Secretiveness, where perpetrators belong to clandestine groups or are secretly sponsored by states.
Mingst, Karen A. Essentials of International Relations. 3rd Edition. 2004. Norton & Company. New York. If you need more information, just let me know.
This is exponentially different than your paranoid delusions of corporations being war machines that dispose of customers that complain too much about how their shampoo made their eyes sting. I'm not saying that corporations don't make people "disappear." I'm well aware of this. The difference is that what they're doing does not fall into the category of terrorism. Their tactics are completely different, despite what you say. Corporations are in the limelight of the government, constantly monitored and altered to remove monopolies and busted for embezzlement, etc. Terrorist groups operate below the radar.
They do use different tactics. Never will a corporation be accused of terrorism by the judicial system, I guarentee it.
Programmer_One']
You do realize they have these large flying machines that can carry people over long distances. Maybe he was a political activist and a NY taxi driver. You could never know because believe it or not governments are ran by people - and people have the ability to lie. I'd like to see how you know that he IS part of the paramilitary or part of a terrorist orginization. Please, feel free to cite your assertions.
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040510fa_factHere's a link to an article written by one of my favorite writers at the New Yorker, Seymour Hersh. I think you'll find it an enjoyable read (he's a liberal!!!). This article was written before the pictures that you so graciously showed us were even leaked to the media. In it, he says:
"Most of the prisoners, however—by the fall there were several thousand, including women and teen-agers—were civilians, many of whom had been picked up in random military sweeps and at highway checkpoints."These prisoners are Iraqis, in Iraq, from Iraq. Why would the military waste money on prisoner transport halfway around the world when they could get the same results from Guantanamo Bay, just a short flight from Florida? Even if they decided to take him to Iraq, it his highly doubtful that it was because he "looked at a woman the wrong way."
Programmer_One']
Take a stroll down any street in Bagdad and report back whether ot not your head is still attached. You don't have to tell them anything - just be there. You'd find out pretty quickly they don't care what you say or do.
You're not serious, are you?
They don't care? I had to do some digging to find these links since they're not ones I like to frequent often. I do not advise anyone going to this as it contains violent material and, in my opinion, is the most disturbing website on the internet.
http://www.ogrish.com/beheading_videos.htmlTHERE IS
NO VIOLENT MATERIAL THAT WILL APPEAR BY CLICKING ON THE LINK PROVIDED ABOVE. IT IS MERELY A COLLECTION OF LINKS TO SUCH MATERIAL. HOWEVER, IF THE ADMIN WISHES TO BLOCK IT, I WOULD BE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THAT DECISION.
Ogrish.com has a section for filmed beheadings. If you click on the link above, it gives a list of available videos. Among the links are titles such as " American Contractor, Jeffery Ake," "US contractor kidnapped in Iraq," and maaaany more. The amount of journalists being held hostage (ex. Jill Carroll) and contractors being executed is enough to convince me not to walk down the streets of Iraq.
They care. Or maybe I just misinterpreted what you meant by that quote.
Programmer_One']
Holy shit you're an idiot. Then what do you suppose he was saying? Lets say if the moon landing was bullshit - that would imply that I am saying it was fabricated. If it is bullshit that US soldiers did that to POWs - that would imply what asshole? Fabrication.
For someone who says that he can read, you sure are struggling with your grasp of the English language. Bullshit also means "unacceptable" .... meaning that what they did was wrong and should not have happened. Once more: he doesn't think that this was fabricated. Stag, step in and prove me right will ya?
Seriously programmer, your arguments are undersupported, lack cohesion, and at some instances you sounded like a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of persecution. Perhaps you should seek help. As for your avatar, it is verrry interesting... but stupid. You should stick to spineless conspiracy theories.
And to think, I could have been throwing a frisbee or something instead of explaining things that could have been gathered from my first post and a little independent online research.
P.S. I live for this shit. I very well know that neither of us are going to change our positions on terrorism. I mean, this is a topic on a Battlefield 1942 website... seriously... it's not like either of us are published. All in all, I welcome any other input from Programmer whether it is in agreement or otherwise.
