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*MAFIA* => General => Topic started by: Partyboy on November 03, 2006, 09:25:37 PM

Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Partyboy on November 03, 2006, 09:25:37 PM
Okay so for Christmas instead of making my parents by me a double bass i would rather go less and just get a double kick for one bas drum. Including a New Crash cymbal, Ride cymbal, and of course 2 stands for them. I was looking at this for double kick but i need help for cymbals and if there is a better double kick. http://www.zzounds.com/item--PEAP122TW
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Capsloc on November 03, 2006, 09:51:50 PM
heh, zzounds is where my parents got me my guitar a good 3-4 years ago
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Balthazar on November 03, 2006, 09:56:56 PM
The powershifter is a lower-end double pedal. If you want to go within that kind of price range you are probably better off going with this one (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/DW-7002PT-Double-Bass-Drum-Pedal?sku=443464). Pearl's lower-end hardware isn't worth shit, but their high-end stuff is great... that's how they get you. Now as far as the hardware goes i'd go with either high-end pearl stands or yamaha stands. The cymbals are different story all together. I'm sure you know of course that it all depends on what kind of sound you are wanting to get out of them. Different brands and different models suit different kinds of sounds. Cymbals are like video cards for drummers... People prefer one brand over another. Happy hunting.

btw... i've found Musicians Friend (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/perc?g=perc) and Midwest Percussion (http://www.midwestpercussion.com/) to be the cheapest places to get your gear aside from local shops.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Bonehead on November 04, 2006, 05:18:03 AM
Just tie some sticks to your feet and kick it, and use cans for symbols. String from the celling will hold them.

Hope that helps :p
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Dune Surfer on November 04, 2006, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: *MAFIA* Bonehead
Just tie some sticks to your feet and kick it, and use cans for symbols. String from the celling will hold them.

lol, if you've got the skills the aesthetics make little difference, give your folks a break and go for the cheap option. I think Zildjian have the best sounding symbals though if your gonna fleese them.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Phantom on November 04, 2006, 11:33:17 AM
it's all about zildjians baby! It all depends on the music you play though, different brands make different sounds.

As for kick...the one balth recommended is a good choice unless you have a higher budget range I would purchase the Pearl Eliminator.  I've tried a lot of pedals out there and the Pearl Eliminator is awesome plus it is a lot cheaper than the DW 9002 pedal.  That's gonna be my next pedal purchase once my other pedal is demolished.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pearl-P2002B-PowerShifter-Eliminator-Double-Pedal-Right?sku=448274

also if you need to know what cymbol dimensions you need to get, let us know how many you need and the dimensions of your drums.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Partyboy on November 04, 2006, 06:51:28 PM
Well  i'm looking for some cheap ones that are low cost but get the job done. And What do you mean the dimensions of my drums?
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Capsloc on November 04, 2006, 11:34:36 PM
size.......... ....
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Partyboy on November 04, 2006, 11:42:01 PM
Size of what? The base drum the toms the snare?
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Boemann (nl) on November 05, 2006, 12:08:44 AM
I guess the bassdrum, cause thats the one that you hit with those paddels right? lol
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Partyboy on November 05, 2006, 12:54:06 AM
Quote from: *MAFIA* Boemann (nl)
I guess the bassdrum, cause thats the one that you hit with those paddels right? lol


well i didnt really get what he meant

Quote from: *MAFIA* Phantom
also if you need to know what cymbol dimensions you need to get, let us know how many you need and the dimensions of your drums.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Phantom on November 05, 2006, 01:13:04 AM
drums meaning your toms, snare, bass, floor toms, etc...

what are the size of them?  as in width and height.  I'm just suggesting that if you have smaller dimensions don't get cymbals that are so large and loud that they will overpower your skins so you can barely hear them.  You want everything balanced.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Dune Surfer on November 05, 2006, 09:16:58 AM
Dude, I have to disagree somewhat, 99% of drums have standard dimensions you can't get mini or giant snares or any other part of a drum kit unless you pay a ridiculous ammount for a company to customise it for you.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Partyboy on November 05, 2006, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Dune Surfer
Dude, I have to disagree somewhat, 99% of drums have standard dimensions you can't get mini or giant snares or any other part of a drum kit unless you pay a ridiculous ammount for a company to customise it for you.


Actually you can, there are bigger bases then others and bigger toms.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Partyboy on November 05, 2006, 10:32:57 AM
This (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pacific-Drums-by-DW-DP402-Double-Bass-Drum-Pedal?sku=440460) is one i was looking at. GOod price. What do you think.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Balthazar on November 05, 2006, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: *MAFIA* Partyboy
This (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Pacific-Drums-by-DW-DP402-Double-Bass-Drum-Pedal?sku=440460) is one i was looking at. GOod price. What do you think.

That's a good one to learn on but within six months when you start to get the hang of double kick and the speed down that thing will fall apart. Unless... Question, do you play heels up or heels down? I'm guessing since you come from a taught background you plays heels down right? If so then you won't destroy your double kick ass quickly as others.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Partyboy on November 05, 2006, 12:18:26 PM
Quote from: *MAFIA* Balthazar
That's a good one to learn on but within six months when you start to get the hang of double kick and the speed down that thing will fall apart. Unless... Question, do you play heels up or heels down? I'm guessing since you come from a taught background you plays heels down right? If so then you won't destroy your double kick ass quickly as others.

ill see whats more comfortable when playing fast. I want to learn how to jitter so i can play extremely fast.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Elliott Smith on November 06, 2006, 12:02:01 AM
too much bass drum action will rattle your balls and possible make you sterile or gay or even run over you with a car!
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Partyboy on December 18, 2006, 03:35:26 PM
So what ride cymbal. Gimme link. No google.Xmas is comming!
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Phantom on December 18, 2006, 04:10:39 PM
if you play rock and you want to smash on your ride as well as tap it then get a 20 inch Zildjian A custom Ride

if you get something bigger like a 21 or 22 inch ride, you won't be able to use it like a crash...

relatively inexpensive and good sound!
http://www.axemusic.com/product.asp?numPageStartPosition=1&PT_ID=104&P_ID=3423
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Partyboy on December 18, 2006, 04:28:26 PM
Well im looking for something cheaper. I just want something that gives me the same feel. Its not for the drum set that i play on when i play for shit. Its just my practice one.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Dune Surfer on December 18, 2006, 04:53:35 PM
Ask the music man in the shop, they're more than always nice guys and will tell you the shit. Jeese how olds this thread Party you gotta start makin decisions lol
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Balthazar on December 18, 2006, 04:56:08 PM
Quote from: *MAFIA* Partyboy
Well im looking for something cheaper. I just want something that gives me the same feel. Its not for the drum set that i play on when i play for shit. Its just my practice one.


You wouldn't want a cast bronze cymbal then... much too expensive. Go with an entry level sheet bronze zildjian. The ZBT's and the ZHT's work well. You can find one here (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/perc/navigation/ride-sheet-cymbals?N=100001+304869&Ntk=All&Ntt=zbt&Nty=1&page=1) at a decent price.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Partyboy on December 20, 2006, 02:52:24 PM
link doesnt work....
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Balthazar on December 20, 2006, 03:53:34 PM
Quote from: *MAFIA* Partyboy
link doesnt work....


Does for me, clear your cache and temp files big boy.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Partyboy on December 21, 2006, 03:11:30 PM
Quote from: *MAFIA* Balthazar
Does for me, clear your cache and temp files big boy.


No its becuase i touch myself at night.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* Wasserfaller on December 21, 2006, 05:52:44 PM
hawt.
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: *MAFIA* The Cp on December 23, 2006, 02:20:42 AM
good shit ..
Title: Drum stuff
Post by: Twisted on December 23, 2006, 10:21:07 AM
hahaha dont we all