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Title: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Wasserfaller on July 30, 2007, 02:57:36 PM
just got bf2 on my comp and i now have 1.5 gigs of ram, runs bf2 with everything set on full like a champ. One problem, my screen started changing colors after 3 hours of playing. I was at my friends house, he's a really smart computer tech head kind of guy, and he saw my screen and screamed "SHUT IT OFF NOW!"

so we went into catalyst control center and BIOS to check my graphics card temp, it was 76 degrees celsius. He said i was lucky it didn't melt down completely through the case. It's surprisingly resilient to still work after that extreme heat wave, but i was wondering, how can i fix this?

He told me to call who i ordered it from, i was on hold for 35 minutes then hung up. I  sent them an email asking for two 80mm fans or one 120mm fan because there's a fan cut-out in the front of my case, but no fan there. Also a bit of important info, the graphics card is in the Bottom Most PCIE slot and the slot above it is empty. My friend said to move the card up one slot and there shouldn't be any problems, but it's so damn big that i don't think it would fit without moving my card reader thing.

I'll include a pic of it's arrangement, any help would be appreciated. If i have to buy some fans and install them, any tips or instructions would also be appreciated.

Also, it has 3 case fans, and one fan for the power supply thingy.

http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sidekh3.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=frontao2.jpg
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Capsloc on July 30, 2007, 04:30:34 PM
dude try moving up it to the first pci-e slot, from what i know, i would mainly use the second slot for crossfire
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Scooby on July 30, 2007, 04:36:27 PM
Yea try moving it up to the highest slot.  That's usually where all primary video cards are set in.

It's a good idea to have a fan in the front because then it creates a sort of a cross-breeze through the system.  It's never a good idea to have more intake than outtake fans, and vice-versa.

Did the company overclock before they sent it to you?
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Wasserfaller on July 30, 2007, 04:46:41 PM
it's not overclocked, it's just a bad ass mofo that needs more air. You don't understand though, i am TERRIFIED of moving it to the top PCIE slot, i just KNOW i'm going to break off some essential piece of my motherboard in the process and cause a fire or something. I might just stay away from playing any high end games for the moment, until i can get this comp over to an azn's house, or one of my comp literate friends.

On a side note, i can't open the catalyst control center anymore, i'm gonna try reinstalling graphics drivers.
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Capsloc on July 30, 2007, 05:32:17 PM
it's real easy wasser, unlock the slot, and take off the screw from the case attached to the card, pull it out, might be kinda tough to take out, and bam, it's all set, then putting it on is easier you just pop it in, until it clicks, and make sure all the pins are in the slot and not showing, meaning make sure the whole card is in the slot
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Wasserfaller on July 30, 2007, 05:37:34 PM
i already opened up the case earlier and pulled the  card out, it's just if i move it to the next higher slot, i would have to punch out those metal slots, know what i mean? Those metal slots that let my HDMI/VGA outputs go through the case, i'm afraid of punching those out.

Also, there's a "filler" that goes in the top PCIE slot just to occupy the space, should i put the "Filler" card into the bottom slot once i switch them?
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Capsloc on July 30, 2007, 08:26:36 PM
you can, but yeah don't be scared wasser, just pop that mofo slot out
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Wasserfaller on July 30, 2007, 08:56:54 PM
what about that "filler" thing that goes in place in the empty slot? Should i move it down to the bottom slot because that one will be empty? I've never done this before, i don't want to break anything.

Also, is there any other program that can tell me the temp of my graphics card?
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Scooby on July 30, 2007, 10:48:29 PM


Also, is there any other program that can tell me the temp of my graphics card?

Download ATI Tray Tools (http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=733#download)
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: Boemann (nl) on July 30, 2007, 11:49:03 PM
Lol @ ATI. I overclocked my 8800GTS before I ordered casefans, and it got up to 78 degrees C, no problem at all..

Now I installed 2 casefans and one new CPU cooler and my temperatures have dropped alot :)


Move the videocard up one slot, and install them casefans! Its always good, even though you aren't overclocking, it will make sure that your hardware doesn't get overheated so it will increase the lifetime (or at least not decrease it too much lol)
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Wasserfaller on July 31, 2007, 12:47:07 AM
it has 3 case fans in it already, and they work. Then there's the powersupply fan and the CPU fan. It should be circulating air pretty well as it is....and then there's the big ass heat sink and fan on the graphics card itself.


http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/378/ati_radeon_x1950.jpg
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: Boemann (nl) on July 31, 2007, 01:05:04 AM
Well did you switch slots yet? And also, are you sure the fan on your videocard is actually working?
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Scooby on July 31, 2007, 02:30:24 AM
Lol @ ATI. I overclocked my 8800GTS before I ordered casefans, and it got up to 78 degrees C, no problem at all..

Now I installed 2 casefans and one new CPU cooler and my temperatures have dropped alot :)



We know u nigga richbag saddlesore.   but does it help him? no!    a computer from that site is not gonna come without fans.  he says he already has 3.

rofl, silly boe.

if you're really not sure about moving the card up, ask a friend to do it for you, cuz it's gonna make sounds that you will think are breaking, but it's not.  same principle goes for installing RAM.

also. did u try the ATI tools program?  i dont have an ATI so i dont know for sure, but its a  good program.  tell me if it doesnt work and i'll try to find another one.
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Bonehead on July 31, 2007, 09:03:47 AM
76c? that is a good temp for a game. But still 76c is kinda high to what you are doing so are you sure that was the cards temp? My system is the newer BTX so the cards sit upright, and prevents the heat from passing through the cards pcb (the board) Heat rises and tends to keep the card hotter upside down.
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Wasserfaller on July 31, 2007, 12:18:59 PM
lol, i switched ram on my friends computer before and he was sure i had broken it. That ATI Tools program was neat i guess, but i couldn't find out where to find the temp of my card.

Yes bone, i'm sure it was the cards temp, i checked it in the catalyst control center. And the card fan works too.

I haven't switched it yet, i'm going to have a friend do it for me.

Also,  i don't think 76 degrees celsius is good for a game, that's almost 170 degrees Fahrenheit.
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Capsloc on July 31, 2007, 03:37:45 PM
i run about 71C playing bf2 for a while
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Wasserfaller on July 31, 2007, 08:41:13 PM
HOLY FUCK I DID IT! And i have to admit, this forum skin/theme ROCKS MY BALLS! I switched the graphics card, the only reason i was scared out of my nuts was that on the slot that i have to punch out, it was like 1cm away from this nob thing on my motherboard, i actually "bumped" it when i was removing the slot to make room for my graphics card, so now it's bent to the side, but it works fine! I'm gonna go give this thing a test run and see what temp i run after playing PR for 2 hours straight!

Thanks so much for the tips and tricks and advice troopers, without it i would have pussied out and waited for my azn friend to do it for me. WOOT!

One more question, now that i have the graphics card one slot up, the power cables to my HD are touching to the top of the graphics card (not the heat sink side, the other side), is that okay? It's not gonna melt the wires or anything right? I mean, the fan and heat sink are facing the bottom, and the HD cables are touching the top part...
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Capsloc on July 31, 2007, 09:38:31 PM
should be fine, i have an audio cable running on top of mine, as long as it not stuck on the chips they'll be fine
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Bonehead on July 31, 2007, 10:22:55 PM
then you dont know much of new cards do you? they are meant to run hotter, 220f is yellow while 250f will fry it.
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Wasserfaller on July 31, 2007, 10:42:45 PM
then you dont know much of new cards do you?
Rofl, you kidding me bone? I don't know much about computers all together, let alone video cards. Well, i hope it's at least safe now, it still feels hot but i'll take your guys word for it. Thanks again, much appreciated.
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: Boemann (nl) on July 31, 2007, 11:29:00 PM
Rofl, you kidding me bone? I don't know much about computers all together, let alone video cards. Well, i hope it's at least safe now, it still feels hot but i'll take your guys word for it. Thanks again, much appreciated.
If your temperatures are lower now then its time to do some overclocking! W00t
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Wasserfaller on August 01, 2007, 01:01:48 PM
they aren't much lower, it stays around 69-70 C now, i'm not gonna overclock it...it runs all my games perfectly fine with all settings on high and 8X AA and 16X AF
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Capsloc on August 01, 2007, 01:03:48 PM
yeah don't o/c it, it just gives you issues later on after some time
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Hellraiser on August 01, 2007, 02:51:31 PM
right now there is something over heating in my pants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: overheating issues
Post by: *MAFIA* Beatlejuice on August 01, 2007, 07:46:34 PM
Ouch Hellraiser, ouch.  Get a water cooling system, maybe it'll leak and electrocute you.