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Miscellaneous => Media => Topic started by: *MAFIA* Bonehead on October 24, 2007, 08:59:51 PM
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8907384305326268846&q=cop&total=63272&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=8
If I knew who this bacon eating mother fucker was I would snip his ass while eating his morning pig fat. What a piece of fucking shit!
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ooo chino! we roll fuckin deep over here niggas so watch yo selfs.
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what is an airman? Is it a pilot? Why the hell was he pulled over?
Yeah, people with itchy trigger fingers and inferiority complex's shouldn't be allowed to carry guns. Or have any position of power.
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I couldn't hear/see shit... wtf happened? And what is an airman?
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I couldn't hear/see shit... wtf happened? And what is an airman?
Turn your speakers and monitor on. Dumbass.
I typed that before I saw the video. That is some serious bullshit. Fucking pigs. It isn't bad enough these guys are getting shot at over here and in Iraq, you got faggot ass cops doing it to. Piece of shit. I wonder what ever happen to the pig.
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This is the most 1 sided video ive ever seen.. You dont know what the guy did to get pulled over, he coulda been hauling around drugs, and thus hostile to a police officer. People in the media are communists anyways, if everyone just shot them right now, you would start hearing about the good things over seas, other than the fact that men are dieing there and nothing good is going on.. Btw more people die accidently in the military yearly than they do in iraq...
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"On going investigation" yeah right, you know he's gonna get off scott free they always do, what a fucking pig that was just fucking dark. All he did was mouth off a little, Poor guy gets back from Iraq, if hes an airman he's probably a Captain and a cop shoots him 3 times, some things fucked up with your country.
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This is the most 1 sided video ive ever seen..
You have a very one-sided brain. It's plain and simple, the guy was sitting on the ground, he told him to get up, he shoots him.
You don't need to analyze it or know the circumstances, the guy was being a power crazy gun wielding lunatic and shot a man in cold blood....three times.
And if "the media" is only talking about the bad things happening iraq, like you said, then how do you know good things are happening? Psychic? Don't try to glorify a war krautkiller, men and women on BOTH sides regret that it is happening.
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Hope that dude gets to be bubba's bitch.
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You have a very one-sided brain. It's plain and simple, the guy was sitting on the ground, he told him to get up, he shoots him.
You don't need to analyze it or know the circumstances, the guy was being a power crazy gun wielding lunatic and shot a man in cold blood....three times.
And if "the media" is only talking about the bad things happening iraq, like you said, then how do you know good things are happening? Psychic? Don't try to glorify a war krautkiller, men and women on BOTH sides regret that it is happening.
Some people like war like my cousins which is why they are over there twice now.
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Some people like war like my cousins which is why they are over there twice now.
I lost you...
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Some people like war like my cousins which is why they are over there twice now.
Yeah I don''t understnad this remark. This is my second time here, and I don't like it. I am not going to complain about it, and I am sure I will be back here or Iraq andother 2 times before I get out. Anyone who says they like war is either retarded, or a dumbass. Who in their right mind likes to be shot at, have bombs blow up around them. I mean come on know, that has got to be the most retarded remark you have ever made.
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Who in their right mind likes to be shot at, have bombs blow up around them. I mean come on know, that has got to be the most retarded remark you have ever made.
you'd be surprised, some of the other posts make even less sense/are even dumber.
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you'd be surprised, some of the other posts make even less sense/are even dumber.
All post he makes are like that. BACK ON TOPIC. cop=fail
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Personally, I think alot of cops have chosen that career path due to being picked on as kids. So when they get the badge put on they think they can do anything they want. Does anyone know what happen to the fucker who shot the airman?? Was this on the news by any of you in Cali? I hope he rots in a cell with a big black guy who splits his ass every time he fucks him.
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To beat it all off the cold blooded killing pigs partner told the airman to get up "get up" fuzz "get up now" airman "ok im getting up" im getting up" pow pow pow crack head pig goes gun happy. Cops like him need to wind up dead... even though he kills the guy in cold blood the older pig "chief" will say he did the right thing and hand the fuck a medal.
Good job officer bacon you killed an unarmed man WAY TO GO!!! here is your medal and the right to do as you please and kill who you want, my old ass supports it. I would pop this pos pigs head like a fucking zit from a mile away and laugh, the sob deserves death row for cold blooded murder. But will only get a paid vacation and a medal... what a fucked up country we live in.
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I hope he got a medal, if the media didnt like it, then hes oviously doing the right thing.
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I hope he got a medal, if the media didnt like it, then hes oviously doing the right thing.
you moron, this video isn't the media putting a political spin or bias on the ordeal, it's a fucking home video taken by a witness!
Christ cakes, sometimes i wonder if you were dropped repeatedly as a child.
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Christ cakes, sometimes i wonder if you were dropped repeatedly as a child.
Then trampled...
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Then trampled...
Then DDTed.
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or it was a media conspiracy to just make a real officer look like one of the gangsters he shot a few weeks before.
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My God KrautKiller, really what the hell are you thinking.
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My God KrautKiller, really what the hell are you thinking.
i think his emaciated penis typed out that message, or a worm. Nothing with a brain could completely disregard common sense like that.
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Well here you go haters! What happened in the end. The airman that was shot was a passenger in the car. Reason for stop. Reckless driving in a corvette. After leading the police in a 100 mph pursuit they crashed. The airman and the driver were drunk .16 BAC. This is not my words, the Officer said that when the driver got up, he reached into his jacket for what he thought was a weapon. I'm not passing judgment just information.
Also the Judge has the right to change the verdict by the jury if he thinks its appropriate. Happy reading.
SAN BERNARDINO - It took jurors barely two hours Thursday to acquit Ivory J. Webb Jr., the first San Bernardino County sheriff's deputy to face criminal charges for an on-duty shooting.
"Mr. Webb, you're free to go," said San Bernardino Superior Court Judge Michael Smith, ending a one-month trial for the January 2006 videotaped shooting by Webb of a drunken, unarmed off-duty military policeman after a car chase in Chino.
With news photographers filming from the witness stand and spectators spilling out of the courtroom into a hallway, the verdict prompted the 6-foot-2, 240-pound Webb to bear-hug both of his attorneys simultaneously and clench his hands over his head in celebration and victory.
Outside the courtroom, Webb thanked God, the jury, his family and supporters.
But he declined to discuss the case because, his attorneys said, federal prosecutors still could charge him with violating the civil rights of 23-year-old Air Force military policeman Elio Carrion, whom he shot three times. Federal officials have declined to comment about their plans.
Webb, 46, who left the force after the shooting, could have been imprisoned for almost 20 years if convicted of attempted voluntary manslaughter or assault with a firearm.
Story continues below
Greg Vojtko / The Press-Enterprise
Ex-San Bernardino County sheriff's Deputy Ivory Webb embraces attorney Michael Schwartz after the verdicts.
"We believe he believed he was in danger," said Richard Day, a member of the jury that decided, in effect, that Webb fired in self-defense.
Webb chased a Corvette at speeds reaching 100 mph before it crashed on a dark street. The lone officer confronted two inebriated suspects, including Carrion.
Carrion and the driver, 22-year-old Luis Fernando Escobedo, were later determined to have a blood alcohol level of 0.16, twice the presumed legal limit for drunken driving.
Escobedo pleaded guilty in November to drunken driving and evading police for his role in the chase. He was sentenced to six months in jail in January. He served four months, getting two off for good behavior.
The videotape, filmed by a neighborhood resident, appears to show that Webb opened fire as Carrion was complying with orders and gestures to get up off the ground.
Actions Seen as Reasonable
But jurors accepted the defense's contention that Webb saw Carrion reach toward his jacket -- as if grabbing for a gun -- and sprang to his feet as if lunging to attack the officer, said Day and juror Michael Thompson.
"I think, from Ivory's point of view, that was the straw that broke the camel's back," Day said. "He did everything that a reasonable officer would do in his position.
"You have to look at the totality of what happened, not just that minute-and-a-half video."
Another juror heaped the blame squarely on Carrion and Escobedo.
"If they would have just shut their mouths and did what he said, none of this would have happened," said juror Linda Goldstein. "I couldn't see (Webb) going to prison. If they don't shoot you on the job, they prosecute you? No one would be a deputy."
Carrion suffered three .45-caliber bullet wounds in his chest, left shoulder and thigh, but he has returned to desk duty at an Air Force base in Louisiana.
Attorney, Brother Upset
"Physically, he's unable to resume his (military) career," said attorney Luis Carrillo, who has filed a federal civil-rights lawsuit on behalf of Carrion seeking an unspecified amount of money from Webb and the Sheriff's Department.
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The lawyer blasted Thursday's not-guilty verdict.
"The residents of San Bernardino (County) are so conservative, they put police officers above the law," he said. "There is no justice."
"I don't think it was a good call. I wasn't happy after they read the verdict," said Hector Carrion, brother of Elio Carrion.
Hector Carrion said the judge ordered the family not to show emotion when the verdict was read, regardless of the outcome. He said his sister, 24-year-old Veronica Carrion, began to cry after the verdict was read, and he comforted her. Bailiffs made them leave the courtroom.
"I guess it was OK for him (Webb) because he's a cop and got to show emotion," Hector Carrion said.
Carrion's Dad Not Surprised
Heliodoro Carrion, Elio Carrion's father, said he expected a not-guilty verdict because the trial was in San Bernardino County.
"There are many cases where the police are involved in something like this and nothing has ever been done to them," Heliodoro Carrion said in Spanish in front of his home in Chino.
A photograph of his son wearing his Air Force uniform sat near an altar of the Virgin Mary. A Mexican flag and a military flag flew above the image.
"When I heard the verdict I was upset, but what can I say? That is how it happens over here."
Heliodoro Carrion said he believes his son doesn't want to comment at this point because he is waiting for his anger to subside.
"Elio has in his mind what happened, so he's probably mad thinking 'Why is this man free, he shot me three times?' " Heliodoro Carrion said.
The family called for the community to join them Monday at 11 a.m. in Los Angeles to ask the U.S. attorney general to prosecute Webb.
"The jury didn't try to see what really happened," Heliodoro Carrion said. "They try to say (Webb) was stressed but that doesn't give you the right to shoot somebody. I am stressed right now but I don't have the right to shoot somebody."
Elio Carrion's mother, Carmen Carrion, said it is hard to explain how she feels.
"This so-called officer is supposed to have experience, so why did he shoot my son three times," she asked. "The jury, they were no good."
Carmen Carrion said her son's wife told her Carrion went straight to his room when he got out of work and said he doesn't want to talk with anyone right now.
Connie Madrigal, Elio Carrion's godmother, said the verdict was a great injustice.
"It's not going to end here," she said. "I think the jury didn't take this too seriously, so we have to go a little further now for Elio. Where is the justice?"
Prosecutor Knew Challenge
Webb's prosecutor said he disagrees with the verdict -- but respects it.
"Obviously, we're disappointed in the verdict, but we're very committed to the jury system," said San Bernardino County Deputy District Attorney Lewis Cope.
Prosecutors knew it would be difficult to convict a police officer, but they believed they had a strong case, said Supervising Deputy District Attorney Dwight Moore.
"The question remains unanswered: What do we need to get a conviction, for crying out loud?" Moore said. "This was the best, most prosecutable case we have seen, and it still wasn't enough."
Juries don't want to believe a police officer would commit a crime, he said.
"The only thing we can take away from this," Moore said, "is the question: Is it impossible to convict a police officer?"
Webb's attorney argued that the defense team started off "behind the 8 ball," because most of the jury had seen the videotape on television long before they set foot in the courthouse.
"Once you make a conclusion (based on an initial viewing of the tape), it's hard to back away from it," Webb's attorney, Michael Schwartz, said about the average person. "Thank God, they did have an open mind."
As for Webb, the attorney said, "My client did his best -- under difficult circumstances -- to do his job and do it right."
Staff writers Adam Hartmann, Michael Mello and Gregor McGavin contributed to this report.
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I don't hate cops, I never said I did. But I do hate this ass, he was ordered to get up then almost killed for it? wtf is that? if it was the other way around than the mp shot the cop in the same case, the airman would be court marshaled, and sent to federal prison.
To me the cop losing his job isn't enough, he needs some jail time. This will only show cops that they can indeed do as they want and get away with it just by saying "I thought he/she was going to hurt me" There are good cops that do follow the laws and go by the book, but cops like this one gives the good ones a bad name.
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There are good cops and then there are fucks like this cock. Granted the kid was stupid and so was his dumbass buddie, actually shit like this is happening more and more. The major reason is you are sending these young kids out to war and they really don't have a drinking tolerance, so when they come back, they think they are bullet proof from survivng war, so they can do anything. I had a little bit of the "bullet proof" syndrom when I came home last time. Nothing really stupid, I just tried to drink more than I should have and got beer muscles. I didn't get my ass beat, but it ruined alot of friendships. Oh well. But that is what I believe happened in this case, hell who knows, the drunk fucking kid might have been going for his MP badge because he thought that might hold water. There was a lot to read, did the kid who got shot die or what?
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if you read he lived and is now working a desk job because he cant do his old job anymore.
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if you read he lived and is now working a desk job because he cant do his old job anymore.
If you read what I said, I said it was too long. GOD!!!! That is a shame about the kid. I think the cop should have fried!!!! Let Bubby shot him full of load!!!!!!
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I think u just got owned by lightning
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I think u just got owned by lightning
Lightning posted the court verdict and what the ruling was, he wasn't trying to "own" anyone. I think you just got owned by logic.
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Webb, 46, who left the force after the shooting, could have been imprisoned for almost 20 years if convicted of attempted voluntary manslaughter or assault with a firearm.
LOL Read between the lines...hmm
Obviously his department advised him to hand in his resignation. So the judges will see that as punishment enough, and his department is untainted with controversy. Nevertheless thats a guilty plee right there cos either his department or himself felt he fucked up in some way thats why he had to leave the force.
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LOL Read between the lines...hmm
Obviously his department advised him to hand in his resignation. So the judges will see that as punishment enough, and his department is untainted with controversy. Nevertheless thats a guilty plee right there cos either his department or himself felt he fucked up in some way thats why he had to leave the force.
Thats not completely true. Think about it. The negative media attention is enough to make you leave the job. It doesn't matter if the Pope himself came out and said he was justified, the damage has been done and it wouldn't be safe for him to continue working. If I were in the same position, I would leave the area immediately. You can't trust the safety of your family to the general public after what happened. If the department fired him and he was found to be not-guilty and there were no department policies were violated he would in fact be a very rich man after he sued the department. Honestly, it would be stupid for him to work the streets there after this whole ordeal.
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Honestly, it would be stupid for him to work the streets there after this whole ordeal.
yeah, shooting unarmed people sitting down drunk on the street, 3 times, can have that affect.
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When you get a few years under your belt of dealing with these shit heads give me a call! You may have a different opinion.
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The guy wasnt just laying on the ground still, he was moving his hands around and talking to the officer.. If you look closely he puts his hand in his pocket, giving him the right to think he was gonna shoot him.
Around here statetroopers can shoot you if you put your hand under the seat of your car. If you dont talk to them, and just do what they say and keep your hands on your head nothing should go wrong.
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If you take the job to be a cop, you accept the risk. If you think everyone is going for a gun, then its time for you to go work fast food... before you kill someone in cold blood.
I crawl under 20,000lb+ trucks all the time, sometimes just on a jack and stands. If the truck falls 98% chance I will be killed. Do I sit and worry about one falling on me? no, it comes with the job.
Do cops think about being shot? yes, this is the reason so much shit like this is going on. If I was as paranoid as most cops are I would never crawl under a truck, and never do my job. If you are a cop and really are paranoid, that everyone is out to get you, then tell them to put you in a white suit and tell you its alright.
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When you get a few years under your belt of dealing with these shit heads give me a call! You may have a different opinion.
i never plan on being in either of those roles. I don't drive drunk, so that's one down. And i would never want to be a cop, way too much responsibility for me.