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*MAFIA* => Help => Topic started by: *MAFIA* BassSlappa on February 19, 2011, 03:57:35 PM
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So with this new laptop, i've got a fairly fast computer now and I really don't need to bother with my old desktop unless the laptop is being used by a parent or my sister, etc. which is good because It runs super slow and takes a good five to ten minutes after starting up before its even usable to go on the internet, open Itunes, etc. I was wondering though, if you guys have any tips for speeding up a slow computer. I updated some drivers on it, ran a registry cleaner, got rid of a few unneccesary programs, cleaned up the desktop, ran malwarebytes to get rid of some trojans and adware, and turned off a few visual effects. But none of these seem to have made any significant changes in the amount of time it takes to load programs and open windows and start up and stuff.
So are there any tips that you know of and/or have tried personally to speed up a slow computer?
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Download CCleaner. Click on Tools, then startup, and you'll see a bunch of programs. Right click and either delete or disable. This prevents them from starting up when your computer starts.
Run disk defrag on it, get rid of iTunes. Even on fast computers, itunes takes a while to start up.
Or you can just format the whole thing and start clean. Even if you've kept your computer clean, after many months it will still slow down.
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2nded for CCleaner. Don't bother with registry cleaners, they do nothing and just run the risk of corrupting something. Also, to stop unnecessary garbage from starting up, hit start, run, type msconfig and hit enter. Go to the startup tab and uncheck anything that doesn't need to be starting up with the computer. What are the computers specs (OS, 32vs64bit, ram, cpu)?
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If you opt for a format here's something to consider.
When I setup my computer I generally partition the drive(s) in the following manner.
One Drive or Partition for the O/S
One or more Drive(s) or Partition(s) for Files
One Drive or Partition for Program / Installation Files
Before I do a format of the O/S I backup the entire registry.
I format only one partition/drive, the O/S installation. From there after a reinstall the O/S I overwrite the registry with the backed up one. I don't spend hours upon hours re-downloading and reinstalling everything under the sun to get my system back to the way I like it.
Naturally you'll want to get your registry and files in a fairly clean state before exporting so you down re-upload the crap back onto your computer after the installation. For that, I too recommend CCleaner.
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2nded for CCleaner. Don't bother with registry cleaners, they do nothing and just run the risk of corrupting something. Also, to stop unnecessary garbage from starting up, hit start, run, type msconfig and hit enter. Go to the startup tab and uncheck anything that doesn't need to be starting up with the computer. What are the computers specs (OS, 32vs64bit, ram, cpu)?
Its a Dell Dimension with an Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz processor and 512 MB of RAM. And its running windows XP Service Pack 3 (32-bit).
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vvvvvv You just blew all his mental circuits with that... ^^^^^^ See he pasted right by your reply.
If you opt for a format here's something to consider.
When I setup my computer I generally partition the drive(s) in the following manner.
One Drive or Partition for the O/S
One or more Drive(s) or Partition(s) for Files
One Drive or Partition for Program / Installation Files
Before I do a format of the O/S I backup the entire registry.
I format only one partition/drive, the O/S installation. From there after a reinstall the O/S I overwrite the registry with the backed up one. I don't spend hours upon hours re-downloading and reinstalling everything under the sun to get my system back to the way I like it.
Naturally you'll want to get your registry and files in a fairly clean state before exporting so you down re-upload the crap back onto your computer after the installation. For that, I too recommend CCleaner.
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vvvvvv You just blew all his mental circuits with that... ^^^^^^ See he pasted right by your reply.
I didnt pass right by it, I just figured replying to waffleboy's post with the specs would be more useful than saying "balth thats way too complex for me" because it is lol. I'm sure you could walk me through it, but for i'd probly just end up wiping my hard drive clean or something.
ALSO: I ran CCleaner and cleaned up a bunch of junk. I ran XP's disk defragmenter too. Although since my hard drive is like 80% full, i'm not sure that made much of a difference. I also opened a task manager as my computer was starting up to see what was making it run so slow, and saw that some comcast antispy program (that i didnt even know i had) was hogging up to 50% of the cpu. And when malwarebytes finally started up on it, that started using a good 20% as well. So that's probly a reason why my computer was taking so long to warm up i'm guessing? They might have been conflicting. Anyways I got rid of the antispy program and it helped a little...I'm going to try restarting the computer now and time how long it takes before it starts.
EDIT: It took a good 18 mins after booting up before I could open an internet browser or even a folder. That's ridiculous. The taskbar just stays frozen and whatever I try clicking on doesnt open. Then after 18 mins, everything I clicked on opens up all at once.
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Try running TDSSKiller by kaspersky (just google it) to see if you have a nasty rootkit and do a full scan with Malwarebytes.
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Bob, I think you should just get a Mac. No hassles like these and it's pretty much retard-proof...kinda (http://www.mafiaowns.com/index.php?topic=14698.0).
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Semi-necro post but I killed my computer a few months ago using Ccleaner and not backing up changes. Must have deleted something important.
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Semi-necro post but I killed my computer a few months ago using Ccleaner and not backing up changes. Must have deleted something important.
Cool story bro.
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Semi-necro post but I killed my computer a few months ago using Ccleaner and not backing up changes. Must have deleted something important.
Full retard.
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Try running TDSSKiller by kaspersky (just google it) to see if you have a nasty rootkit and do a full scan with Malwarebytes.
For some reason I didn't see your post. But i'll try that next time I actually boot it up. We have two laptops now so we've been using them instead of the PC because its so slow it seems beyond help now.
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Bob, I think you should just get a Mac. No hassles like these and it's pretty much retard-proof...kinda (http://www.mafiaowns.com/index.php?topic=14698.0).
Never saw that post. Are you mad I have a mac? Or just bitter in general? Is it because you are ugly? Never been laid? Disliked by most? Indian? Look like a terrorist?
Does anyone remember when Roshan was a big fucking pussy? I sure as hell do. The only difference is now you figured out your have a web browser between you and the people you talk to. 100 bucks says your still just as much of a huge pussy in real life.
But I digress...
Bob Its a Dell Dimension with an Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz processor and 512 MB of RAM. And its running windows XP Service Pack 3 (32-bit).
Obviously not the problem but... Get yourself some more ram.
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Never saw that post. Are you mad I have a mac? Or just bitter in general? Is it because you are ugly? Never been laid? Disliked by most? Indian? Look like a terrorist?
Does anyone remember when Roshan was a big fucking pussy? I sure as hell do. The only difference is now you figured out your have a web browser between you and the people you talk to. 100 bucks says your still just as much of a huge pussy in real life.
lololol I ain't even mad. It's not my fault that you bought a $2k computer and can't figure out how to use it.
It's funny, in every one of your rebuttals against me, you've always brought up the words "terrorist" and "pussy". Can you try with something new? It really doesn't offend me and you're not getting anywhere with it. If you assume that Indians are terrorists, you are one of the contributing factors in how Americans are becoming more stupid compared to other nations around the world. Grow up and learn the world around you.
I also find your selection of generalization s quite amusing and yet also weak. Do you always pretend that anyone who speaks against you or makes fun of you is a total loser and lowlife? You're saying that I only talk smack on here because I'm on a computer and not in real life. Aren't you doing the same? Wouldn't that mean that you're a pussy also?
Why do you ask "is it because you are ugly?" What does ugly have anything to do with all of this? If you're going to start comparing looks, isn't that a bit gay and childish?
Also, nobody cares how tough you are in your real life. I'm sure a lot of people could beat me up, but I'm not the violent fighting type of person. If you want to live your life proving to others that you are tough and they should be scared of you, good luck to you. How is one a pussy in real life? Should I take steroids and then post pictures of my muscles to prove that I'm not? Enlighten me on this please. Also post examples of what you "remember when Roshan was a big fucking pussy".
You know, I have sort of a mental list of people in this clan who can't handle criticism and get butthurt. I'm sure you know some of them, like MG, Bonehead, Angel.......We lcome, you are now the newest addition to the club!
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ALL RIGHT, SOME DRAMA AROUND HERE! Woot!
Not picking sides (although I did laugh at BJ's volley) but isn't the act of adding him to a list a punative act and there for a butthurt reaction?
:butthurt:
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lololol I ain't even mad. It's not my fault that you bought a $2k computer and can't figure out how to use it.
First off, I didn't buy it. Second, I know how to use it. If you would've spent more time reading the post, the reason I was having issues was a faulty ethernet cord.
It's funny, in every one of your rebuttals against me, you've always brought up the words "terrorist" and "pussy". Can you try with something new? It really doesn't offend me and you're not getting anywhere with it. If you assume that Indians are terrorists, you are one of the contributing factors in how Americans are becoming more stupid compared to other nations around the world. Grow up and learn the world around you.
Why would I try something new? I know it gets under your skin. Actually, I can't even remember calling you a terrorist before (even though I wouldn't be surprised if I had because my memory is shot). I am not one of those fucking morons that thinks all Arabs are evil people. I only say that because I know some people look at you and would think that (and I know it makes you angry). And thats why I say it, because I don't like you.
I also find your selection of generalization s quite amusing and yet also weak. Do you always pretend that anyone who speaks against you or makes fun of you is a total loser and lowlife? You're saying that I only talk smack on here because I'm on a computer and not in real life. Aren't you doing the same? Wouldn't that mean that you're a pussy also?
See there is a huge difference between people like you and me. You sit in front of your computer and talk shit to just about anyone who you feel is not as smart as you (probably so you can grow you inner ego, or maybe your just bored and have nothing else to do). I may talk shit, but I do it for my own amusement. I do it because I like getting a laugh out of stupid everyday shit.
The main difference between us though is real life. I am willing to bet a lot of money that you are indeed a big fucking pussy in real life. Why? I have heard your tentative voice on vent. I can just guess how you would respond to someone talking shit to you.. Never mind you even talking shit to anyone else like you do on here. I guess what I am getting at is you are fake.
Also, nobody cares how tough you are in your real life. I'm sure a lot of people could beat me up, but I'm not the violent fighting type of person. If you want to live your life proving to others that you are tough and they should be scared of you, good luck to you. How is one a pussy in real life? Should I take steroids and then post pictures of my muscles to prove that I'm not? Enlighten me on this please. Also post examples of what you "remember when Roshan was a big fucking pussy".
No one cares how tough you are, I agree. But people do look down at those who can't stand up for themselves. Doing that takes a lot more balls in real life then writing in on a fucking forum.
You know, I have sort of a mental list of people in this clan who can't handle criticism and get butthurt. I'm sure you know some of them, like MG, Bonehead, Angel.......We lcome, you are now the newest addition to the club!
Obviously you can't take it either, but you already knew that didn't you?
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Why would I try something new? I know it gets under your skin. Actually, I can't even remember calling you a terrorist before (even though I wouldn't be surprised if I had because my memory is shot). I am not one of those fucking morons that thinks all Arabs are evil people. I only say that because I know some people look at you and would think that (and I know it makes you angry). And thats why I say it, because I don't like you.
Actually it doesn't bother me if you keep calling me that, but you could try to be a little more creative. I take no offense to whatever people call me since I've heard it all. And FYI, Indians aren't Arabs. If you hate me, then I've succeeded in my job here. Just for the record though, I don't hate anyone here.
See there is a huge difference between people like you and me. You sit in front of your computer and talk shit to just about anyone who you feel is not as smart as you (probably so you can grow you inner ego, or maybe your just bored and have nothing else to do). I may talk shit, but I do it for my own amusement. I do it because I like getting a laugh out of stupid everyday shit.
Once again, all the generalization s that you have no idea about. Are you following me around or something and observing how much time I spend doing something? And also, you're using the same argument that many people have used in the past about me thinking other people aren't smart enough. Where did I degrade your intellect directly? Why do you keep assuming that I think I'm somehow brilliant and everyone else is stupid? Oh and it's not that I'm bored or feeding my ego. I just do it for the lulz and butthurt that I get to see unfold around me.
The main difference between us though is real life. I am willing to bet a lot of money that you are indeed a big fucking pussy in real life. Why? I have heard your tentative voice on vent. I can just guess how you would respond to someone talking shit to you.. Never mind you even talking shit to anyone else like you do on here. I guess what I am getting at is you are fake.
So you base someone's life off of how their voice sounds in Vent? Do you see how that contradicts with your statement of you being real life?
You know how I respond to someone talking shit to me in real life? I ignore them because that's the best way to move on. And by ignoring, you are depriving the other person of having any fun.
What am I a fake at? Fake persona online? You can be anything you want in the online world, because it's not the real world. It's kinda like how you lied about your age when joining MAFIA even though you were a couple years younger. Is it safe to say that you are a bigger fake than anyone here who put their real age up? Online life doesn't dictate my real life. The two things are separate.
Oh and about the talking shit part, go back to your help thread and look at the last post by Beatle and read #2. If you can't figure it out on your Mac, here (http://www.mafiaowns.com/index.php?topic=14698.msg133736#msg133736) is the link. I post pics and "shit comments" for fun. It's up to you to take it seriously or not. There are several people here who know my sense of humor and they don't seem to have a problem with it.
No one cares how tough you are, I agree. But people do look down at those who can't stand up for themselves. Doing that takes a lot more balls in real life then writing in on a fucking forum.
Obviously you can't take it either, but you already knew that didn't you?
Once again, random generalization about my life by you. It's funny how you think that since I make fun of people on the forum, I must be a gigantic pussy in real life. I have no idea how you connected those two together, but that's quite a connection. I don't live my real life by going around picking fights with people and proclaiming how tough I am. That's why I am different on the internet. There is no rule or law that you must behave the same way in both worlds. It's very clear that you obviously know nothing about my personal life, which I don't reveal on the forums.
Obviously you can't take it either, but you already knew that didn't you?
I can take it pretty well but on the online world, I just like to exploit it and turn it around.
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Bob, is your computer any faster, or is it still taking a long time to load these girly posts?
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And also, you're using the same argument that many people have used in the past about me thinking other people aren't smart enough. Where did I degrade your intellect directly?
Baha, you called me a retard twice now, you fucking retard.
Full of bullshit is all you are Rosh. You accuse me of being butthurt but clearly you are butthurt as well. Now post some funny pics from 4chan and beat off for the 17th time today.
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Baha, you called me a retard twice now, you fucking retard.
Full of bullshit is all you are Rosh. You accuse me of being butthurt but clearly you are butthurt as well. Now post some funny pics from 4chan and beat off for the 17th time today.
CTRL+F "Retard" ----No results found other than your post.
No, I'm not full yet. I wanted to be full of it, I'd lie about my age to get into a gaming clan. Sorry, it's just that I'm really butthurt right now. I'm sure that you will soon forget about this once you get high and return to your normal self.
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If I post more pictures, are you going to get butthurtmad like you always do? Well if you do, there's always this for you....
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What is going on with that 2nd gif...
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What is going on with that 2nd gif...
Just Japanese entertainment shows.
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CTRL+F "Retard" ----No results found other than your post.
Full retard.
Bob, I think you should just get a Mac. No hassles like these and it's pretty much retard-proof...kinda (http://www.mafiaowns.com/index.php?topic=14698.0).
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Thats 3 I found. Who's the retard?
No, I'm not full yet. I wanted to be full of it, I'd lie about my age to get into a gaming clan. Sorry, it's just that I'm really butthurt right now. I'm sure that you will soon forget about this once you get high and return to your normal self.
Hahaha you are such a cry baby bitch. I was 14 years old. Yeah I lied, get over it cry baby bitch.
I rarely smoke pot. Maybe twice a month. What else you got? Keep it coming, it only shows how mad you are. Baha
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Thats 3 I found. Who's the retard?
Still you for buying a Mac in the first place.
Hahaha you are such a cry baby bitch. I was 14 years old. Yeah I lied, get over it cry baby bitch.
I rarely smoke pot. Maybe twice a month. What else you got? Keep it coming, it only shows how mad you are. Baha
As I recall, you pretty much cried to get into Mafia at that age. Cry baby bitch?
Rarely smoking pot is still smoking pot. It's killing your brain cells, though that would explain the stupidity and the whole Mac situation...
Oh man, I'm so mad. You have no idea how mad and butthurt I am. It's literally tearing me apart.
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This shit is ridicules.
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-rep Bob for starting this thread.
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lololol I ain't even mad. It's not my fault that you bought a $2k computer and can't figure out how to use it.
It's funny, in every one of your rebuttals against me, you've always brought up the words "terrorist" and "pussy". Can you try with something new? It really doesn't offend me and you're not getting anywhere with it. If you assume that Indians are terrorists, you are one of the contributing factors in how Americans are becoming more stupid compared to other nations around the world. Grow up and learn the world around you.
I also find your selection of generalization s quite amusing and yet also weak. Do you always pretend that anyone who speaks against you or makes fun of you is a total loser and lowlife? You're saying that I only talk smack on here because I'm on a computer and not in real life. Aren't you doing the same? Wouldn't that mean that you're a pussy also?
Why do you ask "is it because you are ugly?" What does ugly have anything to do with all of this? If you're going to start comparing looks, isn't that a bit gay and childish?
Also, nobody cares how tough you are in your real life. I'm sure a lot of people could beat me up, but I'm not the violent fighting type of person. If you want to live your life proving to others that you are tough and they should be scared of you, good luck to you. How is one a pussy in real life? Should I take steroids and then post pictures of my muscles to prove that I'm not? Enlighten me on this please. Also post examples of what you "remember when Roshan was a big fucking pussy".
You know, I have sort of a mental list of people in this clan who can't handle criticism and get butthurt. I'm sure you know some of them, like MG, Bonehead, Angel.......We lcome, you are now the newest addition to the club!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNNNNNN AAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAPPPPPPPPPPPP PPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Still you for buying a Mac in the first place.
As I recall, you pretty much cried to get into Mafia at that age. Cry baby bitch?
Rarely smoking pot is still smoking pot. It's killing your brain cells, though that would explain the stupidity and the whole Mac situation...
Oh man, I'm so mad. You have no idea how mad and butthurt I am. It's literally tearing me apart.
As you recall? Recalling something would mean that you are bringing back a memory of certain event, or piece of information. As I recall, your only 21. And as I also recall, your still a fucking moron.
Oh noes... Not my brain cells! I only have 80 billion left! Pretty much everything you do kills brain cells except doing some math or reading a book. And fuck yeah I'll take out a lot more fucking brain cells if it keeps me from turning into a no-life, web trolling faggot. You have nothing on me Rosh. Fuck, you have nothing on anyone but some dutch and the French.
Have you been fucked by something that you didn't have to pay or had a dick? Maybe you should spend your time working on that rather than arguing here with me cause it ain't gonna turn out well for you, just like the last 21 years of your life.
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Oh noes... Not my brain cells! You have nothing on me Rosh.
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And that would be a cigar.
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My computer is still slow, if not slower. But i haven't tried Waffle's suggestion yet. I've been using the laptop. Also, -rep me if you will but this thread had good intentions lol. Now its just full of Blakjax being a douche, and Roshan being Roshan. Well i guess you could say Blakjax is just being Blakjax too.
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My computer is still slow, if not slower. But i haven't tried Waffle's suggestion yet. I've been using the laptop. Also, -rep me if you will but this thread had good intentions lol. Now its just full of Blakjax being a douche, and Roshan being Roshan. Well i guess you could say Blakjax is just being Blakjax too.
awesome, someone new to pick on.
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it all boils down to properly deleting the System32 folder and all its contents as it is a virus...and needs to be gotten
rid of..
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lololol I ain't even mad. It's not my fault that you bought a $2k computer and can't figure out how to use it.
It's funny, in every one of your rebuttals against me, you've always brought up the words "terrorist" and "pussy". Can you try with something new? It really doesn't offend me and you're not getting anywhere with it. If you assume that Indians are terrorists, you are one of the contributing factors in how Americans are becoming more stupid compared to other nations around the world. Grow up and learn the world around you.
I also find your selection of generalization s quite amusing and yet also weak. Do you always pretend that anyone who speaks against you or makes fun of you is a total loser and lowlife? You're saying that I only talk smack on here because I'm on a computer and not in real life. Aren't you doing the same? Wouldn't that mean that you're a pussy also?
Why do you ask "is it because you are ugly?" What does ugly have anything to do with all of this? If you're going to start comparing looks, isn't that a bit gay and childish?
Also, nobody cares how tough you are in your real life. I'm sure a lot of people could beat me up, but I'm not the violent fighting type of person. If you want to live your life proving to others that you are tough and they should be scared of you, good luck to you. How is one a pussy in real life? Should I take steroids and then post pictures of my muscles to prove that I'm not? Enlighten me on this please. Also post examples of what you "remember when Roshan was a big fucking pussy".
You know, I have sort of a mental list of people in this clan who can't handle criticism and get butthurt. I'm sure you know some of them, like MG, Bonehead, Angel.......We lcome, you are now the newest addition to the club!
6 part reply? Butthurt. Welcome to your own list.
My computer is still slow, if not slower. But i haven't tried Waffle's suggestion yet. I've been using the laptop. Also, -rep me if you will but this thread had good intentions lol. Now its just full of Blakjax being a douche, and Roshan being Roshan. Well i guess you could say Blakjax is just being Blakjax too.
Not really. A few of us are just sick of Roshan's shit.
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6 part reply? Butthurt. Welcome to your own list.
Not really. A few of us are just sick of Roshan's shit.
Nope, not butthurt at all. Your rage and replies just fuels my fun even more. If you have known me on this site, then you will realize that you replying will just get you more frustrated in the end.
Are you and Blakjax going to touch dicks and conspire together against me? So now we have a spy and druggie working together. This should turn out pretty good.
I think the only people tired of me are the ones who I pick on and then react back at it. If you take everything that's on here or what I say seriously, you are a retard. GASP! I said the "R" word. Blakjax, does that make 4?
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Nope, not butthurt at all. Your rage and replies just fuels my fun even more. If you have known me on this site, then you will realize that you replying will just get you more frustrated in the end.
Are you and Blakjax going to touch dicks and conspire together against me? So now we have a spy and druggie working together. This should turn out pretty good.
I think the only people tired of me are the ones who I pick on and then react back at it. If you take everything that's on here or what I say seriously, you are a retard. GASP! I said the "R" word. Blakjax, does that make 4?
I don't take any of your babble and 4chan copy paste seriously. You can say I'm a spy and that Blakjax and I 69 but that doesn't make it true. You, however, are in fact a sad 21 year old virgin who beats off to girls facebook pictures from school but would never have the balls to actually talk to any of them. Irony, I'm going to go get laid. Have a good night spent alone, as usual.
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I don't take any of your babble and 4chan copy paste seriously. You can say I'm a spy and that Blakjax and I 69 but that doesn't make it true. You, however, are in fact a sad 21 year old virgin who beats off to girls facebook pictures from school but would never have the balls to actually talk to any of them. Irony, I'm going to go get laid. Have a good night spent alone, as usual.
nothing wrong with that.... and OH SHAP!!!!!
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I don't take any of your babble and 4chan copy paste seriously. You can say I'm a spy and that Blakjax and I 69 but that doesn't make it true. You, however, are in fact a sad 21 year old virgin who beats off to girls facebook pictures from school but would never have the balls to actually talk to any of them. Irony, I'm going to go get laid. Have a good night spent alone, as usual.
How could I fap to FB pictures if I don't have any friends, according to Blakjax? You two really need to coordinate your talking points/memos if you want to get anywhere. LOL I love the assumptions/generalizations you guys keep making.
The reason that you're upset at me and dislike me is because all the stuff I said about you, you took it seriously and it finally got to you. I know it bothers you and that's why I do it. People who get upset easily and react like you and Blak are easy prey.
Sex toys for males don't count as getting laid. Neither does your sister.
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ITT faggots postings about faggots.
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Sex toys for males don't count as getting laid. Neither does your sister.
I'm sorry you had to learn the hard way.
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LOL I love the assumptions/generalizations you guys keep making.
Everything you accuse me of is something you have already done on this thread. God damn you are fucking retarded. I love it.
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God damn you are fucking retarded.
Sorry, I don't own a Mac.
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awesome, someone new to pick on.
Come at me bro!
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Well, since this thread has been MASSIVELY derailed. I feel it's appropriate to....
JOIN IN!
Except with some fucking style, bitch's.
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You think you newfags came up with trolling and butthurt? Listen up niggers, i've been IRL trolling and raping bitch's self esteem since before most of you figured out that if you pull on your (what i'm sure is microscopic) cocks while thinking of your own mothers titties cum would fill your favorite tinker-bell panties in a glorious release.
Each and every single one of you fucks need a reality check.
I, alone, me, the only...
OWN EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.
You cannot fathom the depth in which your lives fail in comparison to mine.
It's absolutely useless to even attempt to refute this fact.
So take your shit, pack it up in a nice little wal-mart bag, roll it into a tight little ball, and shove it STRAIGHT UP YOUR MONKEY ASSES!
IF YOU SMELLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLA AAAAAHHH!
WHAT THE BALTH.......
IS.......
COOKIN........ ..
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Bullshitting
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You have no proof in the post there Balth. Until you post some examples that you continuously share in vent, you and everyone else in this thread are just crossing each other's streams in this massive pissing contest.
Your ownage post is invalid. Fag.
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You have no proof in the post there Balth. Until you post some examples that you continuously share in vent, you and everyone else in this thread are just crossing each other's streams in this massive pissing contest.
Your ownage post is invalid. Fag.
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Bitch you need me.
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DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT !!!!!!!!!!
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Everything you accuse me of is something you have already done on this thread. God damn you are fucking retarded. I love it.
Racist British Women Hates Indians - Welcome to London!
@ 00:05, seems to get allot of use lately. :woot:
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Well, since this thread has been MASSIVELY derailed. I feel it's appropriate to....
JOIN IN!
Except with some fucking style, bitch's.
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You think you newfags came up with trolling and butthurt? Listen up niggers, i've been IRL trolling and raping bitch's self esteem since before most of you figured out that if you pull on your (what i'm sure is microscopic) cocks while thinking of your own mothers titties cum would fill your favorite tinker-bell panties in a glorious release.
Each and every single one of you fucks need a reality check.
I, alone, me, the only...
OWN EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.
You cannot fathom the depth in which your lives fail in comparison to mine.
It's absolutely useless to even attempt to refute this fact.
So take your shit, pack it up in a nice little wal-mart bag, roll it into a tight little ball, and shove it STRAIGHT UP YOUR MONKEY ASSES!
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Racist British Women Hates Indians - Welcome to London!
@ 00:05, seems to get allot of use lately. :woot:
lolol, she's mad cuz we're taking their jobs. She reminds me of Skylar from Good Will Hunting.
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The US should just conquer the world so everyone can be in the US.
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The US should just conquer the world so everyone can be in the US.
Idiocracy would then come true.
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Idiocracy would then come true.
it would prevent the people who come here for money and sending it back to their home countries. Instead they could just work in their countries and go to college there. Everyone would have equal opportunity to do what they wanted.
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The US should just conquer the world so everyone can be in the US.
I can only hope you're kidding.
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Could be Blakjax right here.
(http://i.imgur.com/STkPP.png)
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Could be Blakjax right here.
(http://i.imgur.com/STkPP.png)
Super mad.
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Super mad.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9ufwyrlkI1qbrm0io1_500.jpg)
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I can only hope you're kidding.
That way everyone pays taxes to the same place. And everyone would have democracy. What is your problem with a "world democracy government"? Do you have a problem with the word conquer?
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The US should just conquer the world so everyone can be in the US.
inb4 Futurama
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That way everyone pays taxes to the same place. And everyone would have democracy. What is your problem with a "world democracy government"? Do you have a problem with the word conquer?
Conquering places and democracy don't go together. Conquering [the world] would require a strong totalitarian government; something that contradicts the way democracy works. Also, due to many different cultural beliefs, many peoples/cultures do not want a democratic society.
But eh, who cares? Democracy is just to make the common person feel like he has control.
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Conquering places and democracy don't go together. Conquering [the world] would require a strong totalitarian government; something that contradicts the way democracy works. Also, due to many different cultural beliefs, many peoples/cultures do not want a democratic society.
But eh, who cares? Democracy is just to make the common person feel like he has control.
As long as you don't do anything illegal then u do have control of your own life, as long as the law is righten fairly and makes good use of what things are illegal then you do have control of what you do; and if not you may join an association to check if the law is fair. I forget who you are siting, but I'm guessing it is John Locke or Madison or someone else? It looks like you are not in control cause you can't come up with any ideas of your own you just listen to what the teacher gives you for options and you pick one. We obviously wouldn't have to conquer Europe for the most part. Some would just join over. I'm not saying this is gonna happen but I'm saying that if the US government was in charge of the whole world then Manowar's video wouldn't exist and Americans wouldn't have to worry about paying taxes for other people, since everyone would be paying taxes to the same place. And I'm not saying everyone wants to come to the US, but I bet a lot of the third world countries' majority would enjoy the US gov't over their own. Since they have much less control over their lives then we do.
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As long as you don't do anything illegal then u do have control of your own life, as long as the law is righten fairly and makes good use of what things are illegal then you do have control of what you do; and if not you may join an association to check if the law is fair. I forget who you are siting, but I'm guessing it is John Locke or Madison or someone else? It looks like you are not in control cause you can't come up with any ideas of your own you just listen to what the teacher gives you for options and you pick one. We obviously wouldn't have to conquer Europe for the most part. Some would just join over. I'm not saying this is gonna happen but I'm saying that if the US government was in charge of the whole world then Manowar's video wouldn't exist and Americans wouldn't have to worry about paying taxes for other people, since everyone would be paying taxes to the same place. And I'm not saying everyone wants to come to the US, but I bet a lot of the third world countries' majority would enjoy the US gov't over their own. Since they have much less control over their lives then we do.
Malbert you sound slightly retarded.
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Malbert you sound slightly retarded.
I like how you reject what I say but u have nothing to say.
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I like how you reject what I say but u have nothing to say.
+1 for cyber slap
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I like how you reject what I say but u have nothing to say.
Because what you're saying is so naive that it shouldn't even need a rebuttal. You really want one power, controlling the ENTIRE world? And for that one power, you want (of all people) the US GOVERNMENT? Really Malbert? Just think about what you've said there...let it sink in...roll it around in that little head of yours...and think about what a world today would be like if it were controlled by one central authority. If they were given unlimited power over EVERY single human being, with nobody to stop them. I really hope that's not what you want.
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Misfit for president. :shoot:
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Because what you're saying is so naive that it shouldn't even need a rebuttal. You really want one power, controlling the ENTIRE world? And for that one power, you want (of all people) the US GOVERNMENT? Really Malbert? Just think about what you've said there...let it sink in...roll it around in that little head of yours...and think about what a world today would be like if it were controlled by one central authority. If they were given unlimited power over EVERY single human being, with nobody to stop them. I really hope that's not what you want.
Why do you think the US govt has unlimited power. You know how long it takes things to be done by the US govt? And everyone would vote on the president, governors, mayors, senators, etc... since we would all be part of the US. What is the US gov't not allowing you to do? Or are you talking about how ugly politicians are concerning corruption and what not? You think the whole world isn't corrupt already? The US isnt a dictatorship, people can speak out against the government now more than ever.
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people can speak out against the government now more than ever.
Hah...hah.
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There'd be no point having the US unify the world. At the moment, most US citizens bitch about paying taxes that are used towards programs like welfare because they think everyone on it is poor by choice. Imagine now, if you were to add regions like Africa and the Middle East, where the majority are poor.. It also wouldn't be possible for a single government to monitor and govern 6 billion plus. It would turn into regions having regional governors and them doing whatever they wanted. In order to govern that many people, you'd have to have a either a very strong, totalitarian government, or a common goal in which a majority of the people want to obtain (i.e. Space colonisation/Stuff out of science fiction).
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Hah...hah.
True, things might not get done, or you might not be listened to, since majority rules, but you can say mostly whatever you want except "bomb" on a plane.
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True, things might not get done, or you might not be listened to, since majority rules, but you can say mostly whatever you want except "bomb" on a plane.
And this is your reasoning behind why the entire world should be run by one Government?
You think the world is fucked up now? Why don't we just skip the America taking over the world part. Now the ENTIRE WORLD is the UNITED STATES. Impossible for one governmental system to control. It would probably end up with barcodes tattooed on the wrist of every person and new born baby. You would have a tracer implanted in your skull so they could find you if your were a "terrorist" or social deviant. Try to rise up? Dead.
In no way shape or form could one government control soon to be 8 billion+ people. Chaos and uprising would be around every corner, and for good reason.
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And this is your reasoning behind why the entire world should be run by one Government?
You think the world is fucked up now? Why don't we just skip the America taking over the world part. Now the ENTIRE WORLD is the UNITED STATES. Impossible for one governmental system to control. It would probably end up with barcodes tattooed on the wrist of every person and new born baby. You would have a tracer implanted in your skull so they could find you if your were a "terrorist" or social deviant. Try to rise up? Dead.
In no way shape or form could one government control soon to be 8 billion+ people. Chaos and uprising would be around every corner, and for good reason.
every state would have their own police force. Everyone has social security number, birth certificate. Countries wouldn't deteriorate they would just have our laws so there is no discrimination done by the government, of course there will still be bad people; but what is there to keep track of that can't be tracked on how we are tracked. We don't have bar codes on us and no chips in our head now and they are trying to track terrorists now. I think it is easier to see when you skip over taking over the entire world, there won't be territotial wars, people can travel in and out of any border, lots of tourism, I don't know how it would exactly be and how it would get done, but I see a lot less problems inside this country than in the whole world today.
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WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH SPEEDING UP MY COMPUTER! IS THE GOVERNMENT STEALING MY RAM?
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WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH SPEEDING UP MY COMPUTER! IS THE GOVERNMENT STEALING MY RAM?
Quiet, we're having a conversation here.
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WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH SPEEDING UP MY COMPUTER! IS THE GOVERNMENT STEALING MY RAM?
THIS WAS MY TOPIC AND I WILL ALLOW MALBERT TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT ON IT.
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THIS WAS MY TOPIC AND I WILL ALLOW MALBERT TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT ON IT.
If you make a topic on "how to speed up your computer", then who's the idiot?
Google faggot, do you know it?
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THIS WAS MY TOPIC AND I WILL ALLOW MALBERT TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK LIKE AN IDIOT ON IT.
YOu haven't said anything.
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If you make a topic on "how to speed up your computer", then who's the idiot?
Google faggot, do you know it?
So asking for the advice of those more technologicall y inclined makes somebody an idiot now? Obviously google is the first place i went, which is where i found registry cleaners, tips on cleaning up a desktop, etc. I came here to see if you guys had any other better advice. Contrary to popular belief, a knowledgeable human being can teach a lot more than HURR DURR GOOGLE IT can.
YOu haven't said anything.
I simply haven't taken the time to reply, because you seem too busy kissing uncle sam's ass to understand the gravity of what you're saying.
Why do you think the US govt has unlimited power. You know how long it takes things to be done by the US govt? And everyone would vote on the president, governors, mayors, senators, etc... since we would all be part of the US. What is the US gov't not allowing you to do? Or are you talking about how ugly politicians are concerning corruption and what not? You think the whole world isn't corrupt already? The US isnt a dictatorship, people can speak out against the government now more than ever.
The US has a lot more power than you think. The fact that you're so mindlessly supporting our government proves that much. And in fact, with what you're proposing, you're saying you WANT the US government to have unlimited power. And the fact that you can't see any problems with that makes me lose a little more of what little faith in humanity I have. Also, You really want to know how long it takes things to be done by the government? However long it takes the president to issue an executive order. The president can do pretty much whatever he wants, at the urging of whoever has enough power to be in earshot, and the media will support him. Saying that "the whole world is already corrupt" hardly helps your case, and sure doesn't mean its an OK practice. Imagine the corruption that would take place on a global scale...Sure people can speak out, but that doesn't mean ANYTHING will get done, or that anybody will even hear you. Although both the public, and the government are to blame for that. The bottom line is that if ANY government were given unlimited power over the entire human population, then there will sure as hell be some abuses. And where will there be anybody to stop? People will not be able to rise up against a government big enough to control the entire human species. And if you can't fight back, then where will there be to hide when the government gets too oppressive? In fact, who will even decide what constitutes freedom and what constitutes oppression? Go read 1984, sure its science fiction, but so is what you're proposing. And Even 1984 doesn't go so far as to imagine a world under the control of one global government. A global government may seem attractive to you, but the fact is that the human species has not yet evolved enough out of its base greed, superstition, and general stupidity to govern ourselves on a global scale.
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I simply haven't taken the time to reply, because you seem too busy kissing uncle sam's ass to understand the gravity of what you're saying. The US has a lot more power than you think. The fact that you're so mindlessly supporting our government proves that much. And in fact, with what you're proposing, you're saying you WANT the US government to have unlimited power. And the fact that you can't see any problems with that makes me lose a little more of what little faith in humanity I have. Also, You really want to know how long it takes things to be done by the government? However long it takes the president to issue an executive order. The president can do pretty much whatever he wants, at the urging of whoever has enough power to be in earshot, and the media will support him. Saying that "the whole world is already corrupt" hardly helps your case, and sure doesn't mean its an OK practice. Imagine the corruption that would take place on a global scale...Sure people can speak out, but that doesn't mean ANYTHING will get done, or that anybody will even hear you. Although both the public, and the government are to blame for that. The bottom line is that if ANY government were given unlimited power over the entire human population, then there will sure as hell be some abuses. And where will there be anybody to stop? People will not be able to rise up against a government big enough to control the entire human species. And if you can't fight back, then where will there be to hide when the government gets too oppressive? In fact, who will even decide what constitutes freedom and what constitutes oppression? Go read 1984, sure its science fiction, but so is what you're proposing. And Even 1984 doesn't go so far as to imagine a world under the control of one global government. A global government may seem attractive to you, but the fact is that the human species has not yet evolved enough out of its base greed, superstition, and general stupidity to govern ourselves on a global scale.
If you don't take the time to share your opinion then seems you are not part of the solution to fix your "doomed humanity". What makes you think the people in the other part of the world are heard by there government anyways? Not saying that is how it would be since the media really runs a lot of this country and they would be heard. I know you haven't got to vote yet, but elections are how you are heard, when you vote. Of course there are things that I hate about the country like you vote on a person and not policies, and that the politician can break promises. But for the most part we have it better than a lot of other countries. There would not be more abuse in power than there is today since it would be the same government style. I kinda see what you are saying about competition, if that is what you are saying. Since competition does bring out the best of people. So maybe have two presidents, half worlds same type of government though, with open borders, same laws and same financial institutions.
Wait . . . are you complaining about how it is not legal in every state for gays to get married. I know you want to get married to your gay boyfriend but how long do you think it will take for a country like Egypt to pass a law allowing gays to marry? A lot longer than it will us. Our country is one of the easier countries susceptable to change compared to others. And you say "the US" like there is a better choice to rule the world; who would you have run the world?
I am not saying I don't dislike some things about this country, but I am saying I appreciate it.
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The problem is, having 2 halves of the world with different rulers would just be another Rome and we all know what happened to the Western Roman Empire.
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If you don't take the time to share your opinion then seems you are not part of the solution to fix your "doomed humanity". What makes you think the people in the other part of the world are heard by there government anyways? Not saying that is how it would be since the media really runs a lot of this country and they would be heard. I know you haven't got to vote yet, but elections are how you are heard, when you vote. Of course there are things that I hate about the country like you vote on a person and not policies, and that the politician can break promises. But for the most part we have it better than a lot of other countries. There would not be more abuse in power than there is today since it would be the same government style. I kinda see what you are saying about competition, if that is what you are saying. Since competition does bring out the best of people. So maybe have two presidents, half worlds same type of government though, with open borders, same laws and same financial institutions.
Wait . . . are you complaining about how it is not legal in every state for gays to get married. I know you want to get married to your gay boyfriend but how long do you think it will take for a country like Egypt to pass a law allowing gays to marry? A lot longer than it will us. Our country is one of the easier countries susceptable to change compared to others. And you say "the US" like there is a better choice to rule the world; who would you have run the world?
I am not saying I don't dislike some things about this country, but I am saying I appreciate it.
No, i have never voted, but I know enough about how voting works to know that voting doesn't make a whole hell of a difference. We don't even have direct voting for presidents. You know that right? Your vote doesn't make a difference in who becomes president, only the electoral votes count. Even if it did make a difference, if you're the only genius in a village of idiots, will voting get that village anywhere? Anyways, you only managed to come up with a rebuttal to one of my points. Nowhere in my reply did I mention competition, and nowhere did I mention gay marriage either...altho ugh I can see how you would take an interest in it :lube: A global government would not work in the world today.
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The problem is, having 2 halves of the world with different rulers would just be another Rome and we all know what happened to the Western Roman Empire.
WRONG!
What my problem is is I think there is a shit ton of spyware from me downloading pr0nz all day err day. No wonder my computer is so slow!
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You'all fucking dumb... We all know the flying spaghetti monster going to rule us all!
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No, i have never voted, but I know enough about how voting works to know that voting doesn't make a whole hell of a difference. We don't even have direct voting for presidents. You know that right? Your vote doesn't make a difference in who becomes president, only the electoral votes count. Even if it did make a difference, if you're the only genius in a village of idiots, will voting get that village anywhere? Anyways, you only managed to come up with a rebuttal to one of my points. Nowhere in my reply did I mention competition, and nowhere did I mention gay marriage either...altho ugh I can see how you would take an interest in it :lube: A global government would not work in the world today.
Well you can only vote in the state you are registered in, and the state gets a certain amount of power with electoral votes based on its population, if you vote with the majority your vote does count; like I said before if you don't participate (vote) then you are a part of your problem of "this horrible humanity". Well genius is an opinion and to the "idiots of the village" you would probably be the idiot and they would be the "geniuses"; I never said minority would have get their president elected, the majority always wins, BUT I did say that the minority won't be abused as in discriminated against by the government. The judicial branch supposedly keeps the government in-line and keeps it from getting too oppressive. But bureaucracy is bureaucracy, sometimes it gets things right and sometimes it gets things wrong, but it is the best thing out there for a country to protect civil liberties.
And LOL; I say this "Wait . . . are you complaining about how it is not legal in every state for gays to get married. I know you want to get married to your gay boyfriend but how long do you think it will take for a country like Egypt to pass a law allowing gays to marry?"
then you say the same thing "nowhere did I mention gay marriage either...altho ugh I can see how you would take an interest in it :lube: "
nice cumback; since your boyfriend proly jizzed all over.
Bob what government, that is available today, would you rather live under if not the United States?
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Well you can only vote in the state you are registered in, and the state gets a certain amount of power with electoral votes based on its population, if you vote with the majority your vote does count; like I said before if you don't participate (vote) then you are a part of your problem of "this horrible humanity". Well genius is an opinion and to the "idiots of the village" you would probably be the idiot and they would be the "geniuses"; I never said minority would have get their president elected, the majority always wins, BUT I did say that the minority won't be abused as in discriminated against by the government. The judicial branch supposedly keeps the government in-line and keeps it from getting too oppressive. But bureaucracy is bureaucracy, sometimes it gets things right and sometimes it gets things wrong, but it is the best thing out there for a country to protect civil liberties.
And LOL; I say this "Wait . . . are you complaining about how it is not legal in every state for gays to get married. I know you want to get married to your gay boyfriend but how long do you think it will take for a country like Egypt to pass a law allowing gays to marry?"
then you say the same thing "nowhere did I mention gay marriage either...altho ugh I can see how you would take an interest in it :lube: "
nice cumback; since your boyfriend proly jizzed all over.
Bob what government, that is available today, would you rather live under if not the United States?
Malbert you're an idiot. We're not talking about the government today, we're talking about your "global government". If you have already acknowledged it won't work, then just admit it instead of trying to change the subject.
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Malbert you're an idiot. We're not talking about the government today, we're talking about your "global government". If you have already acknowledged it won't work, then just admit it instead of trying to change the subject.
I have said OUR government ruling the world. So it is our government today, just BIGGER! Sounds like you have nothing.
And you didn't answer my question: "Bob what government, that is available today, would you rather live under if not the United States?"
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So bickering back and forth about politics will speed up my computer? Sweet! Here I go.....
World government’ refers to the idea of all humankind united under one common political authority. Arguably, it has not existed so far in human history, yet proposals for a unified global political authority have existed since ancient times — in the ambition of kings, popes and emperors, and the dreams of poets and philosophers.
Proponents of world government offer distinct reasons for why it is an ideal of political organization. Some are motivated negatively and see world government as the definitive solution to old and new human problems such as war and the development of weapons of mass destruction, global poverty and inequality, and environmental degradation. More positively, some have advocated world government as a proper reflection of the unity of the cosmos, under reason or God. Proponents have also differed historically in their views of the form that a world government should take. While medieval thinkers advocated world government under a single monarch or emperor who would possess supreme authority over all other lesser rulers, modern proponents generally do not advocate a wholesale dismantling of the sovereign states system but incremental innovations in global institutional design to move humanity toward world federalism or cosmopolitan democracy.
Critics of world government have offered three main kinds of objections — to do with the feasibility, desirability and necessity of establishing a common global political authority.
First, a realist argument, forwarded by international ‘realist’ theorists, holds that world government is infeasible; ideas of world government constitute exercises in utopian thinking, and are utterly impractical as a goal for human political organization. Assuming that world government would lead to desirable outcomes such as perpetual peace, realists are skeptical that world government will ever materialize as an institutional reality, given the problems of egoistic or corrupted human nature, or the logic of international anarchy that characterizes a world of states, all jealously guarding their own sovereignty or claims to supreme authority. World government is thus infeasible as a solution to global problems because of the unsurpassable difficulties of establishing “authoritative hierarchies” at the global or international level (Krasner 1999, 42). A related consequentiali st argument speculates that even if world government were desirable, the process of creating a world government may produce more harm than good; the necessary evils committed on the road to establishing a world government would outweigh whatever benefits might result from its achievement (Rousseau 1756).
Second, even if world government were shown to be a feasible political project, it may be an undesirable one. One set of reasons for its undesirability emphasizes the potential power and oppressiveness of a global political authority. In one version of this objection — the tyranny argument — world government would descend into a global tyranny, hindering rather than enhancing the ideal of human autonomy (Kant 1784). Instead of delivering impartial global justice and peace, a world government may form an inescapable tyranny that would have the power to make humanity serve its own interests, and opposition against which might engender incessant and intractable civil wars (Waltz 1979). In another version of this objection — the homogeneity argument — world government may be so strong and pervasive as to create a homogenizing effect, obliterating distinct cultures and communities that are intrinsically valuable. The institution of a world government would thus destroy the rich social pluralism that animates human life (Walzer 2004). While the preceding two arguments stem from fear of the potential power of a world government, another set of concerns that make world government undesirable focuses on its potential weakness as a form of political organization. The objections on this account are that the inevitable remoteness of a global political authority would dilute the laws, making them ineffectual and meaningless. The posited weakness of world government thus leads to objections based on its potential inefficiency and soullessness (Kant 1784).
Third, contemporary liberal theorists argue mainly that world government, in the form of a global leviathan with supreme legislative, executive, adjudicative and enforcement powers, is largely unnecessary to solve problems such as war, global poverty, and environmental catastrophe. World government so conceived is neither necessary nor sufficient to achieve the aims of a liberal agenda. Even cosmopolitan liberals do not argue that moral cosmopolitanis m necessarily entails political cosmopolitanis m in the form of a world government. The liberal rejection of world government, however, does not amount to an endorsement of the conventional system of sovereign states or the contemporary international order, “with its extreme injustices, crippling poverty, and inequalities” (Rawls 1999, 117). Instead, most liberal theorists envision the need for authoritative international and global institutions that modify significantly the powers and prerogatives traditionally attributed to the sovereign state.
This entry will, first, discuss the positive and negative motivations underlying proposals for world government. In a selective discussion of the idea's history, the entry will focus on Dante's medieval treatise on the necessity of a world monarch or emperor, and then consider mainly arguments by Hobbes, Rousseau and Kant that reveal more skepticism about world government as a solution to the problem of war and peace among sovereign states. Most of the objections against the idea of world government outlined above are articulated in their writings. The historical background section will continue with the revival of ideas of world government in the twentieth century, prompted by technological progress, economic globalization, and the experience of two devastating world wars. Debates about world government during the Cold War, however, were pervaded by the ideological division of the world, and the section concludes with an exploration of socialist views on world government.
Second, the entry will explore debates in contemporary theory. One set of debates is located within international relations theory, between neorealist, ‘international society’, liberal internationali st, and constructivist schools. Another set of discussions about world government is located within contemporary liberal theory, involving the foremost liberal political philosopher of the twentieth century, John Rawls, and his cosmopolitan liberal critics. Both sets of discussions show that practically no one in these debates endorses the political project of establishing a world government on the model of a coercive, centralized domestic authority. Somewhat of an outlier is the constructivist theorist, Alexander Wendt, who has argued that a world state with a global monopoly on the legitimate use of force is “inevitable,” given the nature of the struggle for recognition that underlies the logic of anarchy (2003). The idea of world government has gradually given way, in contemporary scholarship, to the concept of “global governance,” which highlights the increasing agency of global civil society and nonstate actors, and deliberately eschews the coercive and centralized components of domestic models of government for looser, decentralized modes of achieving similar functions of government. The conclusion to the entry questions whether global governance in contemporary world conditions can really deliver the goods of global security, universal human rights, social justice, and environmental protection that have made the ideal of world government a persistent if elusive human aspiration
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u didn't bicker u copy and pasted; did it work, is your computer faster now?
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u didn't bicker u copy and pasted; did it work, is your computer faster now?
No. Ok, then I will bicker, fuck you all in the face!!!!! IN THE FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No. Ok, then I will bicker, fuck you all in the face!!!!! IN THE FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The TL;DR of this entire thread.
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1st longest thread in the help section: http://www.mafiaowns.com/index.php?topic=944.0
This is the 2nd.
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I'm done bickering. Malbert you're entitled to your opinion and if you choose not to listen to reason, then that's your decision. To answer your question, I wouldn't have any government, because none has worked so far. If you haven't noticed, we're 14 trillion dollars in debt, 1 in 10 of us doesn't have a job, and we're one of the most violent countries in the world, as well as the fattest.
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I smell an American hating, tree hugging, true blue liberal who believes in Utopian lifestyle. /\
Answer to the vague question: No! We can't all just get along. :coolie:
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I smell an American hating, tree hugging, true blue liberal who believes in Utopian lifestyle. /\
Answer to the vague question: No! We can't all just get along. :coolie:
I don't hate America, i'm far from a tree-hugger, i'm neither a liberal or a conservative, and there is no such thing as a Utopia and I doubt there ever will be. but you're right, we can't all just get along.
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Wow, not only did this thread get completely de-railed, but my computer is still slow. Today I opened up the tower and removed a good pound or so of dust. I don't know if that'll speed it up any but at least now its not as likely to catch on fire. I really don't know much about computers, but will buying more RAM even do much, or should I just forget about this old computer?
Here's some specs again:
Its a Dell Dimension with an Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz processor and 512 MB of RAM. And its running windows XP Service Pack 3 (32-bit).
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:imbecile
Wow, not only did this thread get completely de-railed, but my computer is still slow. Today I opened up the tower and removed a good pound or so of dust. I don't know if that'll speed it up any but at least now its not as likely to catch on fire. I really don't know much about computers, but will buying more RAM even do much, or should I just forget about this old computer?
Here's some specs again:
My goodness get more ram. 4 gig minimum.
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Wow, not only did this thread get completely de-railed, but my computer is still slow. Today I opened up the tower and removed a good pound or so of dust. I don't know if that'll speed it up any but at least now its not as likely to catch on fire. I really don't know much about computers, but will buying more RAM even do much, or should I just forget about this old computer?
Here's some specs again:
definitely lacking ram, but do you have a graphics card? I would say just get a new one if you can afford it.
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I also have a formula to accelarate your PC
a = W / m = (m * g) / m = g
by falling at the rate of 32 feet per second per second. This means that you are accelerating! You will continue to do so until you are stopped by some force, such as hitting a hard surface.
:suicide:
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definitely lacking ram, but do you have a graphics card? I would say just get a new one if you can afford it.
All it says it has is an Intel 82865G Graphics Controller. Btw, it took twenty minutes after it booted up to even become responsive.
How do I know what graphics card is compatible though, or what RAM? I'm a noob at this stuff but I want to learn more about it.
I've been looking around, and so far I found this for RAM:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009RPY96/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A2NDNAPHQ3UDKH
Does this look like it'll do the job?
EDIT: Actually I just found this for 15 dollars less.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003CH8NXY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1C0E2G2LZFK00
The only thing is that in the Dell's startup settings, it says it has a memory speed of 400MHz, while these modules have a speed of 333MHz, does that make a difference?
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Intel graphics are always the bare minimum, if its taking 20 minutes to load up, then I think ur computer is shot; imo you won't get better by that much by buying ram or whatever. I think it would just be a better investment to buy a new computer than get ram. I would open your computer and read what it says on your actual, physical ram stick to make sure you are getting the right ram; if you are set on getting ram.
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Intel graphics are always the bare minimum, if its taking 20 minutes to load up, then I think ur computer is shot; imo you won't get better by that much by buying ram or whatever. I think it would just be a better investment to buy a new computer than get ram. I would open your computer and read what it says on your actual, physical ram stick to make sure you are getting the right ram; if you are set on getting ram.
Well i'm going to do a whole system restore and reset it to the way it was when I first opened it almost ten years ago, and then buy more RAM. Its only 35 bucks so if it doesn't help then i'm not out too much money. Then i'll worry about a graphics card.
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Well i'm going to do a whole system restore and reset it to the way it was when I first opened it almost ten years ago, and then buy more RAM. Its only 35 bucks so if it doesn't help then i'm not out too much money. Then i'll worry about a graphics card.
Sounds good. A majority of the problem might be that your computer is almost 10 years old.
Go here - http://www.crucial.com/store/drammemory.aspx - and run a system scan of your computer. Look at the results and it'll tell you which kind of RAM to get and then you can shop around. Max out to the total amount, and make sure you only buy the same number of sticks as your slots.
You might want to just back everything up and format the hard drive instead of a system restore. That plus your new RAM should provide a faster computer. But like Malbert said, if it's still taking 20 minutes to boot after all that, you might want to be looking at a new computer.
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Sounds good. A majority of the problem might be that your computer is almost 10 years old.
Go here - http://www.crucial.com/store/drammemory.aspx - and run a system scan of your computer. Look at the results and it'll tell you which kind of RAM to get and then you can shop around. Max out to the total amount, and make sure you only buy the same number of sticks as your slots.
You might want to just back everything up and format the hard drive instead of a system restore. That plus your new RAM should provide a faster computer. But like Malbert said, if it's still taking 20 minutes to boot after all that, you might want to be looking at a new computer.
I backed everything up a while back, so last night I formatted the hard drive and re-installed windows xp on it, now it boots up faster than my laptop. The max amount of RAM it can handle is 4GB, so I bought 2GB of the right kind (I took Malbert's advice and opened up my case and looked at the actual ram I had installed, which was different than the crucial recommendation) so that i'll have 2.5 gigs of RAM now. There's only four RAM slots so it'll be the two original 256MB sticks, plus the two 1GB sticks I ordered. That should be enough for now, but if need be then I can always replace the originals too. Next on the list is a graphics card, but I'm not sure what kind of graphics card I can get. I have one free PCI slot, (I have three total but one is for the network adapter (which I probably don't need since i just ordered a USB wireless network adapter) and one is for the sound card) and an AGP slot. I might also need a new power supply, because the one it currently has supplies 250 watts max. Anybody have any recommendation s for the graphics card? I doubt i'll be able to play battlefield 3 on this rig, but i'll take what I can get.
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The AGP slot is where you put the video card, look for the best Agp vid card that is still made (I assume there is still some on the market). Install the card, then you have to turn off the on board video, it will either be a jumper on the board or a setting in the BIOS. Your power supply will work fine at 250w (you just don't have power eating options in that box, even the video card wouldn't warrant a new psu), but it wouldn't hurt to go 500w if you want to change it out.
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The max amount of RAM it can handle is 4GB, so I bought 2GB of the right kind (I took Malbert's advice and opened up my case and looked at the actual ram I had installed, which was different than the crucial recommendation) so that i'll have 2.5 gigs of RAM now.
I have one free PCI slot, (I have three total but one is for the network adapter (which I probably don't need since i just ordered a USB wireless network adapter) and one is for the sound card) and an AGP slot....Anybod y have any recommendation s for the graphics card? I doubt i'll be able to play battlefield 3 on this rig, but i'll take what I can get.
Your original RAM might not have been as good or as fast as what crucial recommended. What were the specs on each (original vs. crucial)? Either way, you will notice a big difference moving from .5 to 2.5 gigs of RAM. If it's still not where you want it to be, I'd definitely upgrade again to 4 gigs. Your current power supply should be fine, but if it's your original one, it might die soon - usually those and hard drives are the first things to go. I'd get the 500w, especially if you're getting a new card that might require more power, because it could overheat.
Loaded is correct about the PCI vs. AGP slot. PCI-e (express) is where the best cards and modern ones fit, but obviously you don't have one. You can get next to nothing trying to upgrade to a regular PCI slot. So that leaves AGP. A search for one on Newegg will only leave you 10 results. Of those 10, 6 of them are "low profile" cards, which means they're good for video but not games. That leaves 4, and 2 are out of stock...which leaves 2, but neither one had good reviews for playing games. Compare the specs and read the reviews here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600007850&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICED&PageSize=20).
Search for some on eBay, Amazon, or other websites. Let us know some of the options you're looking at before you actually buy one. Here are some results I've found on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_scat_284822_ln?rh=n%3A284822%2Ck%3ARadeon+HD+agp%2Cp_85%3A1&keywords=Radeon+HD+agp&ie=UTF8&qid=1330287585&scn=284822#/ref=sr_st?keywords=Radeon+HD+agp&qid=1341512717&rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A!493964%2Cn%3A541966%2Cn%3A193870011%2Cn%3A284822%2Ck%3ARadeon+HD+agp%2Cp_85%3A2470955011&sort=-price). Just make sure when you go through them that it is AGP because some are PCI. Here are some results I've found on TigerDirect (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=318). That first card, the Radeon 4670, is probably the best one currently available. If you scroll down to the specs, notice it requires a 400w power supply. I think you should buy this card, but some of the others aren't bad either.
How long do you plan on keeping this computer until you get a new one? It might make more sense to just save the money you're spending on RAM, video card, power supply, and possibly a new hard drive, and investing in a new computer. And no, you will not be able to run BF3 because you need Windows 7, and whatever AGP card plus your processor are, it probably won't be enough to run BF3. However, I would suggest getting BF2 if you're not wanting to play BF1942 anymore. There are still some of us who play that.
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Crucial recommended a 2GB kit (1GBx2), 184-pin DIMM, DDR PC2700 333mhz memory module, but my original RAM was the same type but PC3200 400mhz. From what I understand, both would have worked but my actual RAM is slightly better than the recommendation? Whatever the case I went against the recommendation and bought 2 gigs of the PC3200 kind.
As of right now, I really don't need this computer, it'd just be nice to have a desktop of my own for when I move out. Plus I've always wanted to build my own computer, but just never knew enough. So upgrading an old one seems to be the next best thing. And there's no way to upgrade the graphics card on my laptop, so maybe I could use this as a gaming rig if I upgrade all the parts. But if I really need to get a new motherboard and power supply And CPU then maybe I should just drop this project and buy a new one. I mean windows 7 alone will cost me over a hundred bucks. I'll see how much all the parts would cost, and see if I save any money upgrading this thing rather than buying a whole new one. My budget is around 300.
Thanks for all the help though, I'll look around and report what I find.
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holy shit 333mhz ram. That shit don't fly ANYWHERE.
If I was in your position with a $300 budget, I'd give up and just buy a netbook or save for a laptop. A pc build is upwards of $600 for the minimum.
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Crucial recommended a 2GB kit (1GBx2), 184-pin DIMM, DDR PC2700 333mhz memory module, but my original RAM was the same type but PC3200 400mhz. From what I understand, both would have worked but my actual RAM is slightly better than the recommendation? Whatever the case I went against the recommendation and bought 2 gigs of the PC3200 kind.
As of right now, I really don't need this computer, it'd just be nice to have a desktop of my own for when I move out. Plus I've always wanted to build my own computer, but just never knew enough. So upgrading an old one seems to be the next best thing. And there's no way to upgrade the graphics card on my laptop, so maybe I could use this as a gaming rig if I upgrade all the parts. But if I really need to get a new motherboard and power supply And CPU then maybe I should just drop this project and buy a new one. I mean windows 7 alone will cost me over a hundred bucks. I'll see how much all the parts would cost, and see if I save any money upgrading this thing rather than buying a whole new one. My budget is around 300.
Thanks for all the help though, I'll look around and report what I find.
Yes, the PC3200 + 400mhz is better. Upgrading an old computer for gaming is fine, as long as you don't care about playing the newer, high-end games. You don't need a new motherboard, but probably a new power supply if you're getting a good graphics card. You should be able to get a 500w power supply for $60-$120. How is your hard drive doing? Is it the original or has it been replaced? What's the space on it?
If your budget is around $300, I'd spend that $115 on the graphics card (see my links in other post), and the rest on RAM and a power supply. Plus there's shipping costs, unless you can find this stuff in local stores, although their prices might be higher. If possible, get the graphics card & power supply from the same site. So does this mean you'll be playing Battlefield with us again?
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Yeah I'll be playing battlefield again haha, so long as I can figure out how to put the graphics card in. Installing the RAM seems easy enough, but I'll need to run power to a graphics card, which is a little more complicated. Speaking of which, I found two that will work.
http://www.amazon.com/HIS-Radeon-Native-Graphics-H467QS1GHA/dp/B003CYKCG8?SubscriptionId=AKIAIFXAG5UGJPMPWGGQ&tag=pathitta0027-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B003CYKCG8 (http://www.amazon.com/HIS-Radeon-Native-Graphics-H467QS1GHA/dp/B003CYKCG8?SubscriptionId=AKIAIFXAG5UGJPMPWGGQ&tag=pathitta0027-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B003CYKCG8)
This is the one Beatle recommended. As far as I can tell, itll work but a lot of people were saying it was a pain to find working drivers for it, even though it claims to have working drivers on the included cd. It recommends a 400watt power supply, but I read a few reviews saying that the stock 250watt power supply worked fine.
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-HD3850-512MB-Graphics/dp/B00145CQUC/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header (http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-HD3850-512MB-Graphics/dp/B00145CQUC/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header)
This one seems like it performs better, but it costs a lot more, and i'll probably need to get a new power supply since it looks like a 500watt power supply is recommended. People said it was easier to install though.
For these prices I could get a much better card if only I had PCI-e slots...
And as for the hard drive, it's still the original drive. I've never had any problems with it other than its a little noisy sometimes. It's a 150gb drive. Not a whole lot, but all im going to have on it is games for now. My music and pictures are all on the laptop.
Also, I can't believe how much faster a drive wipe and a fresh install of xp made my computer. It boots up in less than fifteen seconds. So there's hope for it yet.
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Honestly, you are wasting so much money trying to fix/upgrade a super old computer. You will never be able to play BF3 on that or any game right now. AGP technology is so old and useless now that you won't see updated drivers today, and drivers make a huge difference in the FPS of your games. Chances are the CPU is probably a Pentium D or similar, which will get owned by many games/softwares of today. If your harddrive is IDE and not SATA, that's another thing slowing down your computer.
If you put RAM of two different speeds in your pc, the computer will make the faster RAM run at the slower speed because the slower one can't run any faster.
Save up some money and you can buy a cheap computer around $500-600 that will give you a better life. Seriously, do not spend any money upgrading this. You will regret it.
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Honestly, you are wasting so much money trying to fix/upgrade a super old computer. You will never be able to play BF3 on that or any game right now.....Save up some money and you can buy a cheap computer around $500-600 that will give you a better life. Seriously, do not spend any money upgrading this. You will regret it.
I agree, it might be better to save money and get a better computer in the long run. But he would need to double his budget for a "cheap" $600 computer. However, I don't think he'll regret it. I upgraded my super old computer in 2008 and it still runs fine. I only got a new computer to run BF3 and for Windows 7. If he only wants to use this solely as a gaming computer, and doesn't mind just playing 1942 and BF2, then it'll be fine. Any new games though and you're right, it'll be tough. Have you looked at those cards though? They're not bad for AGP.
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Honestly, you are wasting so much money trying to fix/upgrade a super old computer. You will never be able to play BF3 on that or any game right now. AGP technology is so old and useless now that you won't see updated drivers today, and drivers make a huge difference in the FPS of your games. Chances are the CPU is probably a Pentium D or similar, which will get owned by many games/softwares of today. If your harddrive is IDE and not SATA, that's another thing slowing down your computer.
If you put RAM of two different speeds in your pc, the computer will make the faster RAM run at the slower speed because the slower one can't run any faster.
Save up some money and you can buy a cheap computer around $500-600 that will give you a better life. Seriously, do not spend any money upgrading this. You will regret it.
The RAM I put in isn't a different speed, just different capacities. Although maybe that's what you mean. If need be, then I can just buy two more 1GB sticks of ram for another thirty bucks. And the processor is a Pentium 4 2.8GHz processor. That's not that bad is it? Its more GHz than my laptop... I really haven't spent any money. just thirty on the RAM, and ten on a wireless adapter. The only big money i'll spend on this thing is the graphics card for $100. I've read like 100+ reviews on it, and have heard lots of people say they have almost the exact same rig as me, same processor and everything, and they were able to play games like Left for Dead 2, Assassin's Creed, and GTA IV. In the long run, yeah i'll get a new computer but if i can use this one to play low to mid range games with a hundred dollar graphics card then why not? I'm doing this to learn more about computers too, and so far i've learned a lot.
This is the graphics card I think i'm going to get: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003CYKCG8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=AD6R847RRI5VX
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This is the graphics card I think i'm going to get: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003CYKCG8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=AD6R847RRI5VX
Are you going to get the used one for $95? It's one of the best AGP cards still available. Your computer won't be great, but it'll help you play games through college, and then you can pwn all of us a get a new computer after college.
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Have you looked at those cards though? They're not bad for AGP.
Yea those specs are fine.....for like 8 years ago. Buying it now is a mega huge waste of money. You can get great PCI-e cards for around the same price with better specs.
And the processor is a Pentium 4 2.8GHz processor. That's not that bad is it? Its more GHz than my laptop.
I have a Pentium D 3.0ghz dual core with Nvidia 8600GT (PCI-e). You can not play BF BC2 or anything newer. BF1942 used to lag on Berlin a lot. Anything older than 2006 runs fine. Anything newer gets owned.
I guess if you want just a temp computer until you get a main one, then go for it. But my advice is hold off on spending any money on anything, save up money, and build something in the $800+ range and you'll be set for many many years.
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Are you going to get the used one for $95? It's one of the best AGP cards still available. Your computer won't be great, but it'll help you play games through college, and then you can pwn all of us a get a new computer after college.
I was going to get the used one until I noticed this:
(http://i48.tinypic.com/25hzmrm.png)
Now i'll have to look elsewhere. Also, I still don't know about the power supply. It recommends a 400watt power supply, but I saw reviews of people saying their stock 250watt psu worked fine. Should I take a gamble on it? I really don't have anything in this computer that's hogging a lot of power.
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I have a Pentium D 3.0ghz dual core with Nvidia 8600GT (PCI-e). You can not play BF BC2 or anything newer. BF1942 used to lag on Berlin a lot. Anything older than 2006 runs fine. Anything newer gets owned.
This computer has a pentium 4 2.8GHz single core, with an intel 82865G Graphics Controller, worse specs than yours and I never lagged on Berlin. And that was with no fog, while running hacks, ventrilo, xfire, anti-virus, and usually an internet browser too. Plus there are YouTube videos of people using this graphics card playing midrange games like I mentioned before.
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I actually think I have an old AGP graphics card I can send you if you want. As long as you are willing to pay the cost of shipping and daring enough to PM me your address (or someone else's you can get it at). That can save you some more money to put towards a power supply, RAM, and/or hard drive. Let me know and I'll see if I can find it...
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I actually think I have an old AGP graphics card I can send you if you want. As long as you are willing to pay the cost of shipping and daring enough to PM me your address (or someone else's you can get it at). That can save you some more money to put towards a power supply, RAM, and/or hard drive. Let me know and I'll see if I can find it...
That'd be awesome, so long as it'd be enough of an upgrade to warrant you taking the time to ship it haha.
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daring enough to PM me your address
Forward this PM to me also.
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Forward this PM to me also.
He lives like an hour away from me, don't give him my address.
Also, how much work is involved in replacing a processor? I found a good deal on a moderate upgrade on e-bay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-2GHz-Dual-Core-Pentium-D-Processor-CPU-SL8WQ-MODEL-940-3-2GHz-4M-800-/330757734890?pt=CPUs&hash=item4d02b281ea#rwid (http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-2GHz-Dual-Core-Pentium-D-Processor-CPU-SL8WQ-MODEL-940-3-2GHz-4M-800-/330757734890?pt=CPUs&hash=item4d02b281ea#rwid)
EDIT: Scratch that, I did a little more searching around and it looks like i'm stuck with the processor I have...and i'm not sure I can overclock it.
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Also, how much work is involved in replacing a processor? I found a good deal on a moderate upgrade on e-bay
I'm not sure, I've never tried that, but somebody else can probably help you if you change your mind.
Here (http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3649678&RSort=3&csid=ITD&body) is an old graphics card that I don't use anymore. I can put it back in my computer and test to make sure it works, but from what I remember it ran BF2 just fine. If you check out the specs and ratings, it is not as good as this card (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6076197&CatId=318). So I guess it just comes down to which games you want to play and how much money you have to spend. Also, if you want the card I have, you'll have to wait about 3 weeks until I'm back home.
How is your search on power supplies going?
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I'm not sure, I've never tried that, but somebody else can probably help you if you change your mind.
Here (http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3649678&RSort=3&csid=ITD&body) is an old graphics card that I don't use anymore. I can put it back in my computer and test to make sure it works, but from what I remember it ran BF2 just fine. If you check out the specs and ratings, it is not as good as this card (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6076197&CatId=318). So I guess it just comes down to which games you want to play and how much money you have to spend. Also, if you want the card I have, you'll have to wait about 3 weeks until I'm back home.
How is your search on power supplies going?
I'll see if I can't hunt down that 4670 I was going to buy, theres a few people selling one on eBay for half price, but I don't want to get in a bidding war and end up paying more.
And as for a power supply, I've found a few good deals, but I don't know which ones are compatible with my computer. There's a manual showing my current power supply here http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4600/en/4600i/sm/techov.htm (http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4600/en/4600i/sm/techov.htm)
And the one I was looking at is here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPHK/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0E98YMJ51R582RHC9YNP&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPHK/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0E98YMJ51R582RHC9YNP&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846)
It doesn't look like the power cables connecting to the motherboard are the same, are they?
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The PSU you posted, should work... The 4 extra pins (the +4 talked about) for the MB on the new PSU will disconnect from that MB plug (just move them aside, don't use them for anything)...
Like so
(http://www.mafiaowns.com/mfs/ih/20+4.jpg)
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The PSU you posted, should work... The 4 extra pins (the +4 talked about) for the MB on the new PSU will disconnect from that MB plug (just move them aside, don't use them for anything)...
Like so
(http://www.mafiaowns.com/mfs/ih/20+4.jpg)
Oh ok thanks. The only other potential problem I see is that on my current psu, there are five of those peripheral plug things, although only two of them are being used for my DVD drives. So I guess three is fine, but I wouldn't have any more after that since the graphics card will take up the third one. It's also got a lot of plugs I don't need, like all those SATA plugs (I only need one for my hard drive), and the pci-e plug that I don't need at all. But I guess I can just use this power supply for whatever my next computer will be.
But before i buy it, What are the risks of keeping my current power supply though? The 4670 graphics card recommends a minimum of 400watts, but I read reviews of people saying that their 250watt psu worked fine. Is it just bad to put that much of a load on it? I mean im not powering that much, I have a lot of unused plugs. And since the graphics card has sound built in, I can take out the sound card, I can take out the network adapter since im getting a wireless USB one, and I can unplug the floppy drive. Shouldn't taking out all that make up for the extra load of the graphics card?
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Chances are because of your low power eating CPU, you "might" be ok with what you have with your choice of GPU. But if it was me I would go with the new psu to be safe. Using it for later, maybe, I say that because up to date systems with 4 or larger core CPUs and power hungry video cards chances are even this new psu wouldn't cut it. You would need at least 800 watts to get a new system going.
Risk in low power... No start of the box, video artifacts, the psu could shut down and or burn out.
Plugs on the new unit... You will be fine. Even if you run out of flat plugs, they have jumpers/pigtails that you can buy to make them go farther.
One last thing, if the box doesn't have a rear fan, buy the biggest one that will fit to cool the box off because of the new GPU.
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Chances are because of your low power eating CPU, you "might" be ok with what you have with your choice of GPU. But if it was me I would go with the new psu to be safe. Using it for later, maybe, I say that because up to date systems with 4 or larger core CPUs and power hungry video cards chances are even this new psu wouldn't cut it. You would need at least 800 watts to get a new system going.
Risk in low power... No start of the box, video artifacts, the psu could shut down and or burn out.
Plugs on the new unit... You will be fine. Even if you run out of flat plugs, they have jumpers/pigtails that you can buy to make them go farther.
One last thing, if the box doesn't have a rear fan, buy the biggest one that will fit to cool the box off because of the new GPU.
Well the GPU has its own fan, plus there's a rear fan in my case for the processor, and the fan on the PSU obviously. So I think it should be nice and cool in there. I might as well just get the new PSU for only thirty bucks. Because that HIS 4670 Is becoming really hard to find, and really expensive, I'm going to go with the sapphire one which recommends a 500watt psu. 460 should be fine.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Technology-ATI-Radeon-HD-3850-11124-00-20R-/160838804679?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2572bd64c7#ht_500wt_922 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Technology-ATI-Radeon-HD-3850-11124-00-20R-/160838804679?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2572bd64c7#ht_500wt_922)
I just hope nobody bids on it haha.
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Sorry for the double post, but another route I could go is a whole motherboard upgrade. The graphics card I wanted will probably go up in price in a bidding war, and my processor will hold it back anyways. Buying it new would be 170 Dollars, and i'd never be able to upgrade the computer any further. So, for 240 dollars, I could get:
A new motherboard: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004H6W56A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
A new processor: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003Z4PB3O/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&m=A33Y0YQUZ2NYD5
8 gigs of DDR3 RAM: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003OSUU6Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1C0E2G2LZFK00
A decent Graphics Card: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DCA8W6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A2NG4HB43UEDVL
And a cheapo PSU: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X1R5HM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A27BY0PMIPQ0S2
As far as I can tell, everything is compatible with each other, and I can keep my old case, my IDE hard drive, my DVD drives, my wireless adapter, and just return the DDR2 RAM i bought. See any problems with this? It'll be a pain to put together, but I'll finally be able to say I built my own computer. And my parents said they'd chip in a hundred bucks, so i'd only have to pay 140 for a "brand new" computer.
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A new motherboard: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004H6W56A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
A new processor: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003Z4PB3O/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&m=A33Y0YQUZ2NYD5
8 gigs of DDR3 RAM: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003OSUU6Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1C0E2G2LZFK00
A decent Graphics Card: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DCA8W6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A2NG4HB43UEDVL
And a cheapo PSU: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X1R5HM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A27BY0PMIPQ0S2
If that is the route you WANT to go, then do it. I personally would not want to get the new motherboard and processor, but if you don't mind the work, and have the money to spend, then I don't see why not. As long as all that stuff is compatible with each other and plays the games you want to play, have at it. Let us know how it goes, or if you need any more help.
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If that is the route you WANT to go, then do it. I personally would not want to get the new motherboard and processor, but if you don't mind the work, and have the money to spend, then I don't see why not. As long as all that stuff is compatible with each other and plays the games you want to play, have at it. Let us know how it goes, or if you need any more help.
It would play just about all I want it to except for BF3. But this is just plan B. first im going to see If I can get that card for cheap on eBay. 14 hours left and still only one bid.
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Bidding ended on it at $69.25, not bad at all. And free shipping:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Technology-ATI-Radeon-HD-3850-11124-00-20R-/160838804679?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2572bd64c7#ht_500wt_922
Was that you who won? What was your max you were willing to pay?
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This thread is full of fail.
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Bidding ended on it at $69.25, not bad at all. And free shipping:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Technology-ATI-Radeon-HD-3850-11124-00-20R-/160838804679?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2572bd64c7#ht_500wt_922
Was that you who won? What was your max you were willing to pay?
Ya that was me ;) I put my max at $70 and with 15 seconds left, some guy tried to outbid me but his max was at only $68.25 8) I ordered that 460watt power supply I was looking at too. I'm on vacation right now, so it'll all be waiting for me to put together when I get back. When I eventually get a better computer, I can sell that graphics card for twice what I paid for it and get all my money back plus some.
As for installing it though, all I have to do is uninstall my current onboard graphics drivers, shut the computer off and put the new graphics card in, and then install the new drivers? And for RAM, i just have to put it in the slot and make sure the computer recognizes it right?
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I can sell that graphics card for twice what I paid for it and get all my money back plus some.
(http://i.imgur.com/aUx2e.gif)
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^^^ I have to agree with that. If you could get more then you would have paid more in the bidding.
Install the card... No, leave the drivers alone for the on board. Like I said before, you either have to turn the on board off by either going into the BIOS or removing a jumper on the board, maybe possible the on board will turn off on its own when the new GPU is installed. Goggle your board with that question and see what is the correct way.
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(http://i.imgur.com/aUx2e.gif)
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-HD3850-512MB-Graphics/dp/B00145CQUC/ref=cm_cmu_pg__header
That's how much people are paying for it on Amazon. Way more than I paid, and they don't make them anymore even though its the best AGP card you can get. If I had five people bidding on this one card, then that means there's at least that many willing to buy it. The only reason I didn't end up paying more in the bidding is because my highest bid was .75 cents higher then the guy that bid at the very last second, and he didn't have any time to outbid me.
I'm pretty sure I can do what Loaded said and just install the new card, and it'll override my onboard graphics, but i'll look into it more. Right now, I have to buy a DVI-I to VGA adapter, because the guy I bought it from on Ebay didn't include one and I need VGA out for my monitor.
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I think you should just buy a pre-built PC off of Dell or something and save everyone the future trouble of upcoming problems with your current build.
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Ok so for about a hundred and ten bucks, I took a computer that used to take twenty minutes just to boot up and made it run faster than my laptop. I installed the new power supply with no problems, and the graphics card went in fine too. The only pain was getting the RAM cards into their slots. I really had to shove them in. But now It runs everything i've thrown at it perfectly, and I get way better FPS than my laptop. I'll install battlefield on it now, and play 1942 if anybody ever gets on. Maybe i'll get battlefield 2 too, and see how it runs...so ya, Suck it roshan.
Oh and if you still think I wasted my money, I know a lot more about computers now then when I started, and made sixty bucks helping one friend get rid of a virus, and another with upgrading his.
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$110 is not that bad for an updgrade that will hopefully last several years. I'll be playing 1942 and BF2, just get on ventrilo...
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RAM gets "tilted" into place not pushed straight down. You got lucky if you pushed straight down, most times the holder will crack.
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play 1942 if anybody ever gets on. Maybe i'll get battlefield 2 too, and see how it runs....
Welcome to 2006.
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RAM gets "tilted" into place not pushed straight down. You got lucky if you pushed straight down, most times the holder will crack.
Thanks, i'll remember that for next time haha. Wish I had known that before though.
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Thanks, i'll remember that for next time haha. Wish I had known that before though.
What he said is incorrect. With today's RAM, you need to tap it into place with a hammer or any other object because the clips won't click properly if you don't apply enough force. If the RAM is seated only partially, your computer will be much slower than if it were utilizing the full chip.
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Um yea, that would work too.
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What he said is incorrect. With today's RAM, you need to tap it into place with a hammer or any other object because the clips won't click properly if you don't apply enough force. If the RAM is seated only partially, your computer will be much slower than if it were utilizing the full chip.
Well that's what I practically ended up doing and it worked haha. Speaking of RAM, I know you guys said 4 gigs minimum but 2.5 is doing just fine for me right now. That dayZ game looks pretty fun, I think once I'm done taking all my placement tests for college then I'll have to buy Arma2 so I can play it. My Internet connection in my room is pretty crappy though, so I might look into getting a wifi repeater. Anybody have any experience with using one of those?