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*MAFIA* => News => Topic started by: *MAFIA* Beatlejuice on April 14, 2012, 01:40:24 PM
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*MAFIA* will decide.
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In France, it's the election too , the 22th April.
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I saw "want" in the poll. I don't want either of them to win so I chose Romney.
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I don't want either of them to win so I chose Romney.
Sound logic.
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Sound logic.
January 21, 2001 rings a bell. Stupid voting an whatnot.
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I put Obama because, fuck it, niggas cool yo.
And I remember fighting against him in 08. Ha!
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I'll pick later, way to soon. It isn't going to be a easy race no matter how you look at it.
Obama can talk, some how that man can take a person that wants nothing do with him then a minute later that same person is with him 100%.
Romney, well IMO he is a fucking idiot. BUT even we will elect an idiot to get Obama out of office to try something new. To me Romney is a good business man, he will tell you what you want to hear, just to get close to you, then screw you in the ass to get your position, then do whatever he feels he wants to do, you know, like everyone's Boss.
To bad... I would have picked Santorum right now if he was still running.
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Romney, well IMO he is a fucking idiot. BUT even we will elect an idiot to get Obama out of office to try something new. To me Romney is a good business man, he will tell you what you want to hear, just to get close to you, then screw you in the ass to get your position, then do whatever he feels he wants to do, you know, like everyone's Boss.
+rep. I couldn't agree with you more
I feel Romney is close to being a powerful leader who "Walks softly and carries a big stick."
Teddy Roosevelt was a badass.
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To bad... I would have picked Santorum right now if he was still running.
What is so appealing about that nut? And what is with all the hate for Obama?
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Ron Pual
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To bad... I would have picked Santorum right now if he was still running.
LOL, neither would I.
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All the candidates (4) that said that God wanted them to run, have dropped out of the race.
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All the candidates (4) that said that God wanted them to run, have dropped out of the race.
Mitt Romney says that Joseph Smith wants him to run. Does that count?
French love our politics:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/18/opinion/france-america-relationship/index.html?hpt=op_t1
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Obama supports gay marriage:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/10/politics/obama-same-sex-marriage/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Some of you might want to change your vote...
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Obama supports gay marriage:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/10/politics/obama-same-sex-marriage/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Some of you might want to change your vote...
To add more bullshit to that... Did you hear him say that both his daughters told him they have friends in school that have gay parents? That just shows that the man has no honesty, there is no way in hell his 6 year old and 9 year old said that to him.
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To add more bullshit to that... Did you hear him say that both his daughters told him they have friends in school that have gay parents? That just shows that the man has no honesty, there is no way in hell his 6 year old and 9 year old said that to him.
Babby's first politics?
And let's assume that it's true. What's wrong with the kids telling him about that?
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Guess we know who Beatle is voting for!
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I am voting for kim jong un.
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Mitt Romney says that Joseph Smith wants him to run. Does that count?
French love our politics:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/18/opinion/france-america-relationship/index.html?hpt=op_t1
Actually, I hate françois hollande because He will ruin the country as the Greece :-\. Socialists aren't good for the life of the france, we will get more immigrant and more budget deficit >:(. Now about the relationship, it's true, many politians like usa politic. :)
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In the past I would've chosen the lesser of two evils, but since that no longer applies I opt out of voting.
The system is fully fucked, I'm moving to Switzerland.
(http://www.travelsfy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/switzerland.jpg)
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Who cares. Does anyone even vote anymore?
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>Implying the executive branch has any power to do their promises
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Paul Ryan is setting out to be what Sarah Palin couldn't...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/12/the-race-to-define-paul-ryan/?hpt=hp_t1
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There will be another civil war (http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/us/texas-judge-warning/index.html?hpt=hp_t1), or at least Texas will try to secede from the union, if Barack Obama is re-elected.
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There will be another civil war (http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/us/texas-judge-warning/index.html?hpt=hp_t1), or at least Texas will try to secede from the union, if Barack Obama is re-elected.
Maybe... But I would almost bet if BO gets another 4 years, someone will try to knock him off and if it happens, again it will be forgotten he is half white and that will start a internal war.
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Maybe... But I would almost bet if BO gets another 4 years, someone will try to knock him off and if it happens, again it will be forgotten he is half white and that will start a internal war.
I bet Scooby can't wait. He's finally of age to make something out of himself.
(http://i.imgur.com/21vyI.jpg)
As in a small crater in the convention center of his choosing.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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That's some dedication right there.
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Wow, I only saw the turbin, beard, and vest yesterday, and didn't notice the gun strapped on his back until just now. So if Obama gets re-elected, are you proposing that his assassin is among us? Does that make us conspirators and accessories (if we don't report it)? Someone please forward this over to Mean Green and her legal staff immediately.
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THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST PICTURES I HAVE SEEN ON HERE IN A LONG TIME, BRAVO YOU SON OF A BITCH, BRAVO.
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Looks legit
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THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST PICTURES I HAVE SEEN ON HERE IN A LONG TIME, BRAVO YOU SON OF A BITCH, BRAVO.
I fucking agree!!!! It almost made me want to join again, but then I realized that Head Hunter isn't a part of Mafia so now I don't want to.
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To counter Romney's 47% claim during his recent speech. Big picture perspective is provided.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/19/heres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data/
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To counter Romney's 47% claim during his recent speech. Big picture perspective is provided.
Romney has since backtracked on that statement:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/04/romney-on-47-comments-i-was-completely-wrong/?hpt=hp_t2
Also, after Round 1 of debates, the score is: Romney 1, Obama 0.
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Even your own man says smart people don't vote for Republicans. I guess all those dirty liberals with college degrees aren't the lowest people in this country after all. It's no wonder that the 10 poorest states in the country are all Republican.
College students, like you, vote for Obama because he keeps your tuition costs down.
Unless you have a better reason, which I'm sure we would all LOVE to hear.
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After Round 2 of debates, the score is: Obama 1, Romney 1.
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Biden 1, Ryan 0
So does the VP score get added to the Pres score?
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So does the VP score get added to the Pres score?
No, the VP doesn't count. If people actually voted for the vice president too, then Obama/Biden would have won the 2008 election 49 states to 1 (Alaska).
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College students, like you, vote for Obama because he keeps your tuition costs down.
Unless you have a better reason, which I'm sure we would all LOVE to hear.
I'm a college student who's balls deep in dept, so yes that's one of the reasons I'm voting for obama. Shouldn't keeping higher education costs down be an objective of anyone running for president? There are other reasons too...
-Romney wants to cut funding for public broadcasting (which costs $1.35 per taxpayer, per year)
-drill for oil in the Arctic Wildlife National Refuge
-increase coal production
-his running mate Ryan proposed a budget cutting $170 BILLION in Pell Grants (goodbye educational opportunities for the poor)
-against gay marriage
-against abortion unless involving incest, rape, or harm to the mother (it doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are, it’s the fact that the establishment may govern that choice, which is unconstitution al)
-wants to repeal Obamacare (I finally have health insurance now, which I had been without since I was booted off my parents policy when I turned 21)
-wants to build a fucking fence over 2,000 miles of border shared with mexico (costly, time consuming, and unenforceable)
-increase military spending, even though we're drawing down and pulling out of a decade long war (we need to bring Bonehead's war buddies home, not build more fucking bombers and invade iran next)
-flip-flops his positions more than any flip-flopper in the history of flip-flopping. Republicans usually hate that shit, but since he's the only candidate they have, they've been ignoring his permanently changing positions and unending contradictions .
and...he's unrelatable as fuck. $20 million dollars made just last year. This isn't someone who lives, acts, or represents a lifestyle that anyone here has experienced or can understand. This month I had to tally up how much money I could spend on groceries each week and still afford to pay for rent at the end of the month. Romney is someone who had to sell off some of his stock options during college in order to pay for it when the economy took a shit. Can anyone here relate to that?
But hey, if everything in that short list I included is something you are totally down to support, then by all means vote for Romney. Actually, don't.
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-Romney wants to cut funding for public broadcasting (which costs $1.35 per taxpayer, per year)
Honest question, why is this one is important? Is it because he wants to cut funding for something that is so cheap to taxpayers?
Maybe it's because I don't use my tv for anything other than Netflix/LIVE that I am unaware of this matter.
Or because I'm an ignorant moron. Either one. Probably both.
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Honest question, why is this one is important? Is it because he wants to cut funding for something that is so cheap to taxpayers?
Because Republicans tend to attack things that undermine or question their positions. Democrats do it also but they are less forceful since most Democratic politicians are too pussy to be strong. If Republicans don't like something, it's almost always guaranteed that you'll hear about it.
PBS, NPR, etc, are pretty reliable places to get information from. Since they are public organizations, they generally don't have their own political agendas to carry out (for the most part). News corporations like Fox, MSNBC, CNN are all trying to make money while "selling" a product. It doesn't matter how they sell it or what they say as long as they get their money. Even though you might think Fox is right wing and MSNBC left wing and CNN centrist, it's really not like that. All of the stations are more right-leaning because right wing policies tend to make them more money (lower taxes and such).
While PBS and NPR usually point out bullshit from both sides, often there's more to point out coming from the right-wing. This is seen as an attack on their business model and they feel that it must be eliminated. The truth obstructs their propaganda and that's a big no-no for their executives who are trying to make the most money they can. The more people that buy into their idea through propaganda, the more money they make.
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I'm a college student who's balls deep in dept, so yes that's one of the reasons I'm voting for obama. Shouldn't keeping higher education costs down be an objective of anyone running for president? There are other reasons too...
-Romney wants to cut funding for public broadcasting (which costs $1.35 per taxpayer, per year)
-drill for oil in the Arctic Wildlife National Refuge
-increase coal production
-his running mate Ryan proposed a budget cutting $170 BILLION in Pell Grants (goodbye educational opportunities for the poor)
-against gay marriage
-against abortion unless involving incest, rape, or harm to the mother (it doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are, it’s the fact that the establishment may govern that choice, which is unconstitution al)
-wants to repeal Obamacare (I finally have health insurance now, which I had been without since I was booted off my parents policy when I turned 21)
-wants to build a fucking fence over 2,000 miles of border shared with mexico (costly, time consuming, and unenforceable)
-increase military spending, even though we're drawing down and pulling out of a decade long war (we need to bring Bonehead's war buddies home, not build more fucking bombers and invade iran next)
-flip-flops his positions more than any flip-flopper in the history of flip-flopping. Republicans usually hate that shit, but since he's the only candidate they have, they've been ignoring his permanently changing positions and unending contradictions .
and...he's unrelatable as fuck. $20 million dollars made just last year. This isn't someone who lives, acts, or represents a lifestyle that anyone here has experienced or can understand. This month I had to tally up how much money I could spend on groceries each week and still afford to pay for rent at the end of the month. Romney is someone who had to sell off some of his stock options during college in order to pay for it when the economy took a shit. Can anyone here relate to that?
But hey, if everything in that short list I included is something you are totally down to support, then by all means vote for Romney. Actually, don't.
It's all those reasons and more I am voting for Romney. For shit's sake can't you lazy liberal fucks stop depending on the government to support you and just take care of yourselves? We can't afford to keep subsidizing all the not well off, welfare fraud, and illegals. We need to stop expanding the government work force and reduce it. We will soon run out of tax payers and then we turn into Greece. This country will only improve when private industry improves.
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For shit's sake can't you lazy liberal fucks stop depending on the government to support you and just take care of yourselves?
You meant republican, right?
(http://thecentristword.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/red-state-socialism.jpg)
And really, those are reasons you ARE voting for romney? Environmental degredation? More dead troops and hostility abroad? Can't make up his mind on fucking anything? Reversing women's rights? Cutting education?
I don't understand why most republicans think that "we" provide for "them." If you got back money on your tax return last year, then you're part of that "47%" that romney was shitting on last month.
You aren't someone who makes over 250,000 per year. You will not be affected by any of these tax "burdens" that romney cries about. I'm trying to help...you're voting against your own interests simply because you don't want to be labeled as a bleeding heart faggot liberal, and I understand that. Please try to look past party lines and into the fucking trainwreck that people your age will be driving this country into when you vote for romney.
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2004 statistics? I'd love to see updated ones. No way Georgia is that low on the list anymore, gotta be higher up with getting more than giving.
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Ouch... http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/romney-obama-among-likely-voters.aspx , if you trust polls.
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If Mitt Romney wins, it will be over the issue of jobs; I saw that poll too Loaded, but it was before the last debate, since Mitt obviously stumbled when he was trying to go for the kill on Obama.
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Ouch... http://www.gallup.com/poll/158048/romney-obama-among-likely-voters.aspx , if you trust polls.
All I got out of that page is that every graph/table was saying each candidate is 50% + or - 2%.
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All I got out of that page is that every graph/table was saying each candidate is 50% + or - 2%.
That's because you haven't been following polls. Just a bit more then a month or so ago, BO was up in the polls so much it "was said" it was pointless for MR to keep going on.
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Lol @ anyone who says "Er ma gerd Romney makes too much money!" Since when did being successful become a demonizing trait? People who support Obama act like he struggles to pay rent. The fucker went to Harvard.
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Lol @ anyone who says "Er ma gerd Romney makes too much money!" Since when did being successful become a demonizing trait? People who support Obama act like he struggles to pay rent. The fucker went to Harvard.
No one is criticizing how much money he makes. People are criticizing the ways he makes that money. Do you know what he does to make the money he has? Please research everything he has done before you even reply to this post.
Also, the above statement is not defending Obama in any way. All politicians do dirty things to make more money; some just do it in worse ways than others.
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No one is criticizing how much money he makes. People are criticizing the ways he makes that money. Do you know what he does to make the money he has? Please research everything he has done before you even reply to this post.
Also, the above statement is not defending Obama in any way. All politicians do dirty things to make more money; some just do it in worse ways than others.
I don't care if he made his money by winning a dead baby eating contest, politicians are all the same and if given the opportunity would do exactly as he did. Also, my statement was not defending Romney in any way.
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After round 3, it seemed pretty even, maybe a slight edge to Obama...but he still maybe hasn't caught up from getting blown out after the 1st debate. There was a lot of repetition from the first 2 debates. May the best man win?!
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“Our Navy is smaller now than at any time since 1917,” said Romney. “The Navy said they needed 313 ships to carry out their mission. We’re now at 285.”
“You mention the Navy, for example, and the fact that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916,” Obama said. “Well governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets.”
“We have these things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them,” he added.
“This is not a game of battleship,” Obama said.
Looks like BO sank Romney's battleship.
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Looks like BO sank Romney's battleship.
Somehow I knew as soon as I heard that lame "horses & bayonets" line that it would be quoted on here. Seeing as this has to do with the Navy, lets see what Manowar has to say. What do you think? According to Obama, all we need are aircraft carriers and a submarines.
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Seeing as this has to do with the Navy...what do you think?
We don't need a larger Navy. There are no naval threats anymore...and if a country did try to invade using ships, any combination of coastal defense/jets/submarines would take care of it. Come on, when was the last time a naval fleet set off to attack America?
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According to Obama, all we need are aircraft carriers and a submarines.
Well if go by your's and Romney's logic, your phone is not very powerful since it is smaller than what a phone from the 1980's would have been. We have better technology now, which reduces or combines things that previously needed to be bigger.
At the end of WW2, the US Navy had 6768 active vessels (http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/interactive/2012/oct/23/size-us-navy-changed-1917#size). We obviously must be so weak because that's a reduction of about 96% to current size. Do you really think we should be increasing this number?
Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno says the Army does not need more tanks, but Congress is insisting they do. There are a surplus of tanks that are not being used, but Congress and the defense contractors want more because it's about $3 billion that they would get. (http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/09/army-to-congress-thanks-but-no-tanks/)
Obama Was Right On Navy, Says Former Navy Secretary Richard Danzig (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/obama-navy-richard-danzig_n_2005201.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009)
"You don't measure efficacy by the number of ships. You measure it by your firepower, by the character of your people, the character of your equipment."
"The basic point that didn't get mentioned, that I would add, is the number of ships actually went down during the years of George W. Bush and have gone up in the Obama years," Danzig said. "So the notion that Republicans are more effective in building the Navy is not a correct one."
Have you learned nothing in your school about the military industrial complex?
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After watching all those LetFreedomRing commercials and that website WhyMrPresident Why.com, I'm not voting for Romney. Nor am I voting for Obama. Doesn't really matter anyway, Americans can't think in long term change and the only way to get out of this "problem" the US is in is through long term plans. And the fact that Social issues are big in this race is disheartening.
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The main reason I'm NOT voting for BO... Click me (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/18/The-Biggest-Spender-Obama-Has-Spent-More-Money-Than-Anyone-In-History-of-World)
"According to Forbes, 'Obama’s own fiscal 2013 budget ... shows federal spending increasing from $2.983 trillion in 2008 to an all time record $3.796 trillion in 2012, an increase of 27.3%' and, 'before Obama there had never been a deficit anywhere near $1 trillion.'”
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So who is it going to be? Any predictions?
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Obama wins? Will he survive? Will we survive? Good luck everybody!
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Barack_Obama_playing_basketball_with_members_of_Congress_and_Cabinet_secretaries_2.jpg)
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Thoughts? Discussion?
Here's to a small hope that the obstruction and stupid politics will lessen in Congress now.
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Yeah, Roseanne Barr 2012!! I laughed my ass off when I saw her name on the Ballot.
I'm glad we didn't end up with the stormin mormon as a president, here's to hoping that the next 4 years see a stabilized economy and more green energy jobs. Graduating is a little over a month away for me, and i'm definitely worrying about repayment on those federal loans I took out for school.
Were Roshan and I the only ones who voted for Obama?
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Yeah, Roseanne Barr 2012!! I laughed my ass off when I saw her name on the Ballot.
I'm glad we didn't end up with the stormin mormon as a president, here's to hoping that the next 4 years see a stabilized economy and more green energy jobs. Graduating is a little over a month away for me, and i'm definitely worrying about repayment on those federal loans I took out for school.
Were Roshan and I the only ones who voted for Obama?
No, I'm sure there were more morons on the site who voted with you.
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Don't worry, in the next few months the House is going to make BO wish he moved out.
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No, I'm sure there were more morons on the site who voted with you.
I still don't understand what you think Romney could have offered you that would have given you a leg up, would you care to share what that would be?
Not that it really matters I guess since he lost.
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I didn't vote nor will I ever. They are all corrupt in one way or another. Obama isn't really going to do anything positive and hopefully nothing really negative in the next 4 years. Hopefully we stay out of trouble with other nations too because he is to much of a pussy to do anything other then "sanctions".
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I voted for Gary Johnson, but we all knew Obama was going to win.
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I still don't understand what you think Romney could have offered you that would have given you a leg up, would you care to share what that would be?
Not that it really matters I guess since he lost.
"Romney could have offered you that would have given you a leg up"
I think can reply to this for him (because I truly believe he wont reply to you)... He is not looking for a "Leg Up", I would bet that Manowar believes no "leg up" should be given by the government, work for what you need or want.
In other words Wasser, you are a socialist (if for any reason, just by your quote to him above).
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2012/01/22/is-president-obama-truly-a-socialist/
Some words to live by,
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
...but I would think it's to late for you and most other younger folks to follow such a simple sentence.
Look at the exit polls... Romney lost because just over half of this population "Wants free stuff" and Romney made it perfectly clear that the free stuff would end if he went to the WH.
So much more I would like to say on this but, no way to make anyone hear another point of view on politics when they are set in their own views. Politics and religion, no winner in a conversation.. . You hit both in 1 post. Good luck finding that job to live on and pay those "student loans" off.
Yeah, Roseanne Barr 2012!! I laughed my ass off when I saw her name on the Ballot.
I'm glad we didn't end up with the stormin mormon as a president, here's to hoping that the next 4 years see a stabilized economy and more green energy jobs. Graduating is a little over a month away for me, and i'm definitely worrying about repayment on those federal loans I took out for school.
Were Roshan and I the only ones who voted for Obama?
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On tv its just a show.
On one side you've got:
Romney made it perfectly clear that the free stuff would end if he went to the WH.
Then on the other side you've got Obama going round giving free pizzas to victims of Sandy.
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On tv its just a show.
On one side you've got:
Then on the other side you've got Obama going round giving free pizzas to victims of Sandy.
Free pizzas, cool... The boxes should work out just fine for warmth.
It isn't the job of the government (or BO from his own pocket) to take care of people of time of need that the "government" had nothing to do with, its the communities job. Before the late 1970s, that is how it was done and it worked just fine, communities, churches and so on took care of their own when bad things happened.
I had a flood here this summer... I have 10ac and 7 of it was under water, I didn't ask for help fixing/picking up the mess, it was my family and I with my back neighbor that took care of it, no insurance help, no FEMA help... BUT my next door neighbor (1/4 mile away), waited on FEMA, filled out the apps just to wait 2 weeks to hear "sorry can't help you". We offered to get her up and running as soon as the rain stopped (she was down stream from me, worse then what I was dealing with), but she said "I deserve help from FEMA", that help she "deserved" never came, we did.
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"My number one priority is to ensure Mr. Obama is a one-term president."
-Mitch McConnell, Senate Minority Leader
Now that that's failed, will the Republican party work with the Democrats and a Democratic president to make sure that the country and economy starts growing again? Will the Republicans (and some Dems) continue their policy of obstructionism to everything by the Obama administration?
Isn't it highly unpatriotic and very un-American to prevent this President from trying to improve the country?
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"My number one priority is to ensure Mr. Obama is a one-term president."
-Mitch McConnell, Senate Minority Leader
Now that that's failed, will the Republican party work with the Democrats and a Democratic president to make sure that the country and economy starts growing again? Will the Republicans (and some Dems) continue their policy of obstructionism to everything by the Obama administration?
Isn't it highly unpatriotic and very un-American to prevent this President from trying to improve the country?
didn't he already have 4 years to improve this country? What has he done but give people free health care which means the lazy can keep being lazy?
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didn't he already have 4 years to improve this country? What has he done but give people free health care which means the lazy can keep being lazy?
If you have closely followed what's going on in Congress the last 4 years, you would know that the Republicans have tried blocking every single bill/measure from Obama. This goes back to Mitch McConnel and the rest of the GOP's motive of making sure Obama didn't succeed. You have to remember that just because he's the president doesn't mean he can do anything he wants. Almost everything requires approval from Congress and if Congress is only set on making sure you fail, you're not going to get much done.
Some things which Republicans have blocked (please read the full list):
-Tax on Companies that ship jobs overseas- A bill that would have eliminated a tax break that companies get when they ship jobs overseas. Republicans blocked this, allowing companies to keep the tax break they receive when they ship jobs to other countries.
-Political Ad disclosure bill- Would have required all donors to political campaigns to reveal themselves. Republicans blocked this, not once but twice.
-Subpoena Power for the Committee investigating the BP Oil Spill – Give subpoena power to the independent committee responsible for investigating BP’s roll in the oil spill. Republicans attempted to block this.
-The Small Business Jobs Act -would give LOCAL, community banks access to billions of dollars to loan to small businesses. Republicans blocked this, then attempted to block it a second time and failed.
-The DREAM Act- Gives immigrant youth who were brought here as children a path to citizenship by earning a college degree or serving the military for 2 years. Republicans blocked this.
-Repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”- Would have repealed the law that forces gay and lesbian services members to lie about their sexuality and gives the military the right to discharge soldiers based on their sexuality. Republicans blocked this many times and Democrats were finally able to pass it with the support of just 2 Republicans.
-From Crooks and Liars - When John McCain led the filibuster of the Defense Appropriations Act yesterday, he blocked far more than the DREAM Act and repeal of DADT.
--No permanent military bases in Afghanistan.
--Report identifying hybrid or electric propulsion systems and other fuel-saving technologies for incorporation into tactical motor vehicles.
--Protection of child custody arrangements for parents who are members of the Armed Forces deployed in support of a contingency operation.
--Improvements to Department of Defense domestic violence programs.
--Department of Defense recognition of spouses of members of the Armed Forces.
--Department of Defense recognition of children of members of the Armed Forces.
--Enhancements to the Troops-to-Teachers Program.
--Fiscal year 2011 increase in military basic pay.
--Improving aural protection for members of the Armed Forces.
--Comprehensive policy on neurocognitive assessment by the military health care system.
--Authority to make excess nonlethal supplies available for domestic emergency assistance.
-Senator Franken’s Anti-Rape Amendment to the Defense Appropriations Bill – Makes it so that women raped overseas while working for foreign contractors have the right to have their case heard in an American court instead of having their case mediated by the company they work for. Only Republican men voted against this, but it passed.
-Benefits for Homeless Veterans- Would have expanded benefits to homeless veterans and homeless veterans with children. Republicans blocked this.
-Affordable Health Care For America Act- Prevents insurance companies from discriminating against you on the basis of “pre-existing conditions”. Requires that insurance companies spend 85 cents of every dollar that you pay on your actual health care. Limits health insurance companies profit margins. Republicans blocked this for months before it finally passed and have vowed to repeal it if they are elected.
-Health Care for the 9/11 First Responders who got sick from being at Ground Zero- Would provide billions of dollars in health care to help the 9/11 First Responders who were at Ground Zero on 9/11 and are now sick because of it. Republicans blocked this.
-The Jobs Bill- Offsets the payroll tax for 1 year for companies that hire new employees, or people receiving unemployment insurance. Also gives other tax incentives to companies hiring new employees. Republicans attempted to block this.
-Wall Street Reform- Puts stricter regulations on the banks, preventing them from becoming “too big to fail”. Curbs reckless spending practices that caused the banking crisis. Republicans attempted to block this.
-American Recovery and Reinvestment Act- Pumped billions of dollars into state and local Governments to prevent us from sinking into a second Great Depression. Republicans opposed this but now want to take credit for the parts of it that we know are successful.
-Oil Spill Liability- Raises the liability on what companies can be made to pay to clean up after an oil spill. Republicans blocked this.
-Immigration Reform- Republican suggested comprehensive immigration reform until Obama supported it. Now they’re rabidly opposed to it and even voted against their own legislation. Republicans blocked this.
-Unemployment extension bill HR-4213- Would provide additional aid to the millions of Americans still on unemployment who are just trying to support themselves and their families. Republicans blocked this bill for 8 weeks before it finally passed.
-Fair Pay Act of 2009- Also called the Lily Ledbetter bill. Requires that women receive equal compensation to men for doing the same work. Republicans attempted to block this.
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If you have closely followed what's going on in Congress the last 4 years, you would know that the Republicans have tried blocking every single bill/measure from Obama. This goes back to Mitch McConnel and the rest of the GOP's motive of making sure Obama didn't succeed. You have to remember that just because he's the president doesn't mean he can do anything he wants. Almost everything requires approval from Congress and if Congress is only set on making sure you fail, you're not going to get much done.
I am well aware of that. Anyway, I had this long thing typed out but it doesn't matter. You have your opinions and I have mine. I see the black and white and to me it seems like he just wants to give shit away still and the deficite will continue to grow till China or Russia wants their money back and we are fucked. With that being said, I will continue to serve him as he is my Commander in Chief and my top boss and that is all.
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@ Loaded, Generally Yes. That sums up my beliefs.
@ Wasser, It's not what Romney had to offer but what Obama is doing to this country. Now that he has his 2nd term the flood gates of bad news will start pouring in. In this case I really do hope I am wrong but as Han Solo say's "I've got a bad feeling about this". :zomg:
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I really hate to agree with Roshan, but most of the shit wrong with the country is Congress' fault. Both sides are immature as fuck and don't realise that their attempts at undermining each other are really just hurting the country's economy/world image/work force. The US is currently in a state of Divided Government; where the Presidency is one party and Congress is the other and no one agrees with each other. If Romney were elected, it would be like Obama's first year all over again: Some progress until the people vote in Republicans(or Democrats for Romney) into Congress to further stunt laws from being passed. If anything, its the fucking dumbass, retarded, uninformed, inbred people who vote in America that are causing this by their constant mood swings on who should be in what. I've asked a bunch of people in my school who voted for Romney why they did so and I've yet to receive even an answer other than "He's not Obama". Now, I'm not dissing the people here who voted for Romney, I'm just trying to show that people vote because "he isn't X" and not because "Romney's idea's on X, Y, and Z are amazing and are better than Obama's idea's on X, Y, and Z".
Edit: Lol, I kind of contradicted myself here, but whatever I won't edit it out, just keep it as a rant or something. Also, Loaded, why do you use Socialist as though its an insult (or so it seems). Wasser having liberal views about social issues and how the government runs social projects doesn't make him a socialist.
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"Romney could have offered you that would have given you a leg up"
I think can reply to this for him (because I truly believe he wont reply to you)... He is not looking for a "Leg Up", I would bet that Manowar believes no "leg up" should be given by the government, work for what you need or want.
Well, you misinterpreted that pretty good.
I didn't say "what free stuff is Romney going to give you because i'm a socialist."
I'm simply asking, in what way does Romney's "great plan for the future" come to benefit you at all? How will Romney's policies help you, or do they offer anything for you and your family? The point I was trying to make is that his vague plan of action to fix America seems to benefit mainly rich business men, not everyday middle class Americans, so why are you interested in electing him? Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but I want to make my point clear because you really took the ball and ran with it in the complete opposite direction I was going for with this.
"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."
Quoting democrats now, are we?
Politics and religion, no winner in a conversation.. . You hit both in 1 post. Good luck finding that job to live on and pay those "student loans" off.
So where did I mention religion at all in my post?
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Well, you misinterpreted that pretty good.
I didn't say "what free stuff is Romney going to give you because i'm a socialist."
I'm simply asking, in what way does Romney's "great plan for the future" come to benefit you at all? How will Romney's policies help you, or do they offer anything for you and your family? The point I was trying to make is that his vague plan of action to fix America seems to benefit mainly rich business men, not everyday middle class Americans, so why are you interested in electing him? Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but I want to make my point clear because you really took the ball and ran with it in the complete opposite direction I was going for with this.
Quoting democrats now, are we?
So where did I mention religion at all in my post?
. Penis!!!!
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The votes have been counted: Barack Obama wins Florida.
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I voted Obama, not because I "want free stuff" but because Romney has burned too many bridges in the past couple of months with too many countries. The president can really only veto shit and is the first and only contact/ representative to other countries. With Romney pissing everyone off, i'd rather have the other guy. The many post i have seen on facebook or wherever that "THE APOCALYPSE IS COMING OBAMA REELECTED GG, AMERICA IS DEAD" are flat out retarded. They point to the question of "what did Obama do the past 4 years?"... mainly what limited powers the president has bestowed upon him. He can't really do shit as president, thats all congress. So, in a sense, i would have liked to see Romney get elected, just so in 4 years the same sentiments could be made of "ROMNEY DIDNT DO ANYTHING IN 4 YEARS, WTF?" but, here we are. Another thing that is brought up is "obamacare", just remember, congress passed it and the supreme court upheld it before you put all the blame onto Obama. Presidents don't have as much power as everyone thinks, the elections doesn't really mean shit.
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Well, you misinterpreted that pretty good.
I didn't say "what free stuff is Romney going to give you because i'm a socialist."
I'm simply asking, in what way does Romney's "great plan for the future" come to benefit you at all? How will Romney's policies help you, or do they offer anything for you and your family? The point I was trying to make is that his vague plan of action to fix America seems to benefit mainly rich business men, not everyday middle class Americans, so why are you interested in electing him? Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but I want to make my point clear because you really took the ball and ran with it in the complete opposite direction I was going for with this.
Quoting democrats now, are we?
So where did I mention religion at all in my post?
So where did I mention religion at all in my post?
I'm glad we didn't end up with the stormin mormon as a president
Quoting democrats now, are we?
Sure why not, its the words and meaning I am quoting, not the political party.
And for the rest of it... I never said one word who I voted for. In any case, you typed what you did (you can try to reword it all you want), in my opinion from your own words you are a socialist, again this is only "my" opinion, as this point.
BO making it back to the WH should make things really interesting in the coming months... Even more so that half the most powerful people at his side are bailing out on him and their country.
Time will tell if 50%+ of the country was correct (I just wish I could remove the 10% that weren't true citizens that voted)...
Race & Ethnicity...
Black... Obama: 93% (talk about discrimination, toward "whites")
Hispanic... Obama: 71%
Asian... Obama: 73%
Age...
18-29... Obama: 60%
Education...
No college degree... Obama: 51%
Income...
Under $30,000... Obama: 63%
$30,000 - $49,999... Obama: 57%
Size of Place...
Big cities... Obama: 69%
Mid-sized cities... Obama: 58%
Ideology...
Liberal... Obama: 86%
Moderate... Obama: 56%
Married...
Unmarried... Obama: 62%
Do You Think the Nation’s Economy Is...
Excellent or good... Obama: 90% (this one I just have to say, are you kidding me?)
Are You Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual...?
Yes... Obama: 76%
Obama’s Job Performance...
Approve... Obama: 89% (ok this one too... Must be because of those "Fat" Bankers that were bailed out, sure can't be because of anything else, because this Economy sucks and if you don't see that, well mommy and daddy are taking way to much care of you).
So in closing... BO was re elected by Inner city, minority, gay, unmarried, uneducated, baby killing, living at home, part time workers at McDonald's, socialist, that have no clue because they are getting stoned, government owes me, free loading pieces of shit that wont do this country a damn world of good... In short, 30 and younger because their parents were to afraid to give them a kick in the ass every once in awhile because they could go to jail for child abuse.
Again... Good luck finding that job to pay those loans off. I heard Solyndra was hiring, oh wait, my mistake, they aren't... Just look to see where all those solar panels came from on government buildings, I am sure they are hiring, but you will have to move to China.
I am sure you will reply and I understand, but I am done with this subject.
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What you just listed is the entire demographic of the Democratic Party: Minority groups, Women, College Students not done with school, and people who live in urban areas. I don't understand why you listed them.
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i was wrong, took down.
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So in closing... BO was re elected by Inner city, minority, gay, unmarried, uneducated, baby killing, living at home, part time workers at McDonald's, socialist, that have no clue because they are getting stoned, government owes me, free loading pieces of shit that wont do this country a damn world of good... In short, 30 and younger because their parents were to afraid to give them a kick in the ass every once in awhile because they could go to jail for child abuse.
Again... Good luck finding that job to pay those loans off. I heard Solyndra was hiring, oh wait, my mistake, they aren't... Just look to see where all those solar panels came from on government buildings, I am sure they are hiring, but you will have to move to China.
Keep drinking that Fox News and Rush Limbaugh Kool-Aid old man. Your bullshit is going to die along with the rest of the Republican party as the elections keep coming because you refuse to grow out of your perfect white American bubble.
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In any case, you typed what you did (you can try to reword it all you want), in my opinion from your own words you are a socialist, again this is only "my" opinion, as this point.
Oh my hell Loaded, I'm not rewording what I said I'm trying to clarify what I said because you obviously didn't get it then, and apparently you still don't now. Well, I could care less about the socialist branding. I am not one, but I'm sure me saying so won't convince you of anything...jus t thought I'd throw it out there.
Obama’s Job Performance...
ok this one too... Must be because of those "Fat" Bankers that were bailed out, sure can't be because of anything else, because this Economy sucks and if you don't see that, well mommy and daddy are taking way to much care of you
I think if anyone is "not seeing the real picture," it's you Loaded...
"Over the past three months, the economy added 730,000 jobs. The unemployment rate remained at percent for the second straight month, though the rate is the lowest since January 2009, when Barack Obama took office. "
And thanks for the sarcastic good luck gesture about getting a job...again. But the truth is, getting a 4 year degree will get me a lot farther in life than will blaming minorities and gaylords for electing a president you don't approve of. To clarify about the kind of "people" you assume voted for him, I'm not some poor/gay/black/inner city shit who gets everything handed to him through welfare checks and works at mcdonalds getting stoned all day. I pay for my own schooling, housing, car, fuel, etc...and I have since day one.
And for the record, you STILL didn't say why Romney would have been such a great guy and how he would have helped the US out at all, in anyway. Which was the original reason for my first post.
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And for the record, you STILL didn't say why Romney would have been such a great guy and how he would have helped the US out at all, in anyway. Which was the original reason for my first post.
He still won't have anything to say. People like him have been trained by Fox News and like to spew out phrases of communism, Marxism, socialism, etc... in order to downgrade Obama. A huge percentage of them still cannot accept a black man who has more power than the white folks. The portion of the party that are racists, and generally very uneducated, are the ones that are sinking the ship.
Also I've noticed that everytime Loaded cannot respond to a post effectively, he always says something like "I'm done here". Good way to avoid the facts and pussy out I guess...
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What does everyone think about Obama endorsing the UN arms trade treaty?? What are your views? Please discuss.
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What does everyone think about Obama endorsing the UN arms trade treaty?? What are your views? Please discuss.
I think I WAS FUCKING RIGHT! Everyone was like "Ermagerd Obama isn't gonna ban guns you stupid gun people!". BULL SHIT. It's silly to think he is going to outlaw guns within 4 years, but he IS going to pave the way and make it possible. I live in California so things won't change much for me, but those of you who buy\own guns outside of Cali are going to freak the fuck out when you have to follow the Cali-Style laws that are coming. Ie: 10 round mags, bullet buttons, featureless rifles, NO private transfers, etc.
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This is what we need:
http://www.dolekemp96.org/main.htm
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Honestly, why do people even need guns with more than 10 bullets anymore?
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Honestly, why do people even need guns with more than 10 bullets anymore?
. Because it is a right! Plus, if you need to defend yourself!
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Honestly, why do people even need guns with more than 10 bullets anymore?
Why do you need a car that has a gas tank that holds more than 5 gallons? Why do you need an internet speed faster than 10mb\s? Why do you need to play Starcraft 23 hours a day? BECAUSE YOU FUCKING CAN, AND NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU OTHERWISE!
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My values that influence my vote, in short (very short)
Economy:
Tax that absolute shit out of the super wealthy. My idea of super wealthy is the first dollar over 100K get's taxed at a higher rate. A simple sliding scale tax code is the key.
Let the middle class pay their fair share.
Pave a way for the impoverished to move up.
Note: Make drug testing mandatory for ALL government assistance. Every single fucking one. Food stamps, Welfare, the whole bit. (This is also helpful to the healthcare concern as it relates to cost)
Healthcare:
Been working in hospital finance and patient accounting for a little over a year now and have come up with one simple theory.
Make it cheaper to provide healthcare so healthcare doesn't cost so damn much to provide. There is a reason why an Advil cost $5 when you go to the Emergency Room. It cost the hospital $4.75
A note on healthcare as it relates to citizens and the government:
One theory from a few years ago I strongly believe in. I believe it was Clinton's chief of staff that originally came up with this one:
Medicare has the lowest administrative cost of any insurance on the planet. Think of how many people are on Medicare and how efficiently they run it. When's the last time you heard of Medicare filing a claim incorrectly? NEVER! That's when.
It cost United, Humana, Anthem, e.t.c Billions! with a fucking B! a year to pay executives and governing boards salaries and benefits. This cost get's passed down to the consumer and your premiums become unaffordable.
Solution: Make Medicare a buy-in system for citizens under 65, the premium's would cost a whole hell of a lot less because Medicare has figured out how to pay it out in a fair manner. There is not one person in Medicare who makes over $200K a year. The secretary of health and human services (as much as I really don't like her and think she is far too unqualified for the job) pulls down $180K or there about. As opposed to the hundred of millions for her commercial counterpart. It would also more than likely force the commercial insurances to lower premiums costs to a competitive level.
Guns:
I honestly am not seeing how the system is broken, people are broken. I can't outright buy a rocket launcher right now so more than likely neither can the convenience store guy from Pakistan down the street...
However if I want to go out and buy an AR-15 loaded down with a 100 round drum and a scope that could accurately pop off a nat from thirty miles away, I think that is my constitutional right. Or did the framers mean something like?.....
(http://images3.makefive.com/images/entertainment/other/visual-puns/bear-arms-7.jpg)
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Disband political parties and let people just vote for whoever they want.
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Why do you need a car that has a gas tank that holds more than 5 gallons? Why do you need an internet speed faster than 10mb\s? Why do you need to play Starcraft 23 hours a day? BECAUSE YOU FUCKING CAN, AND NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU OTHERWISE!
These analogies all have one thing is common: Their primary purpose is not to inflict harm on another biotic organism. There is absolutely no reason for more then 10 bullets. You shoot someone even 5 times and they're more then likely going to die. Are you expecting a shoot out with 5 other people to just miraculously happen to everyone carrying a gun with 10 bullets?
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Guns aren't going anywhere. Stop freaking out and whining like little kids. The NRA has a huge amount of political power and they will not let anyone touch their guns and gun laws.
If you hear and believe "Obama is gonna take your guns away", then you're a misinformed and easily influenced person. And the NRA targets uneducated people like these to make sure they continue to be in power.
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(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/121117023130-obama-with-gymnast-mckayla-maroney-story-top.jpg)
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Guns aren't going anywhere. Stop freaking out and whining like little kids. The NRA has a huge amount of political power and they will not let anyone touch their guns and gun laws.
If you hear and believe "Obama is gonna take your guns away", then you're a misinformed and easily influenced person. And the NRA targets uneducated people like these to make sure they continue to be in power.
It's silly to think he is going to outlaw guns within 4 years
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Tax that absolute shit out of the super wealthy. My idea of super wealthy is the first dollar over 100K get's taxed at a higher rate.
In any case, you typed what you did (you can try to reword it all you want), in my opinion from your own words you are a socialist, again this is only "my" opinion, as this point.
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There is absolutely no reason for more then 10 bullets. You shoot someone even 5 times and they're more then likely going to die. Are you expecting a shoot out with 5 other people to just miraculously happen to everyone carrying a gun with 10 bullets?
I'm kinda on the fence on this one. 50 cent got shot 9 times in 1 sitting and didn't die. If the shooter had a larger magazine he could of saved the world from his music.