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*MAFIA* => News => Topic started by: *MAFIA* Beatlejuice on June 04, 2008, 08:02:08 PM
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*MAFIA* will decide.
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McCain all the way!!
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McCain. Why? Obama is all talk, he is just stating that he will do all of these wonderful and awesome things, but only to get votes and win presidency. He won't follow through on any of it though. Almost all presidents do it except the great ones, like Kennedy. McCain is mellow and kickback, he doesn't need to speak of lies and all the b.s. to win. Also, do we want a nigger to be the top of us all? I think not!
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weather ppl belive obama or not i think hes not ganna win because ppl are still to racist if he had tried 4 years latorZ my generation would have voted and most of us would not see the half nigger in him... RONPAUL!!!! he can still win LOLZ
i think every president doesent follow up on all there stuff to because some times they don't want to or they find (maby) stuff that stops them from doing it... and the great presidents do great stuff but actually break the constation to do it. maby not all stuff but 1 is teddy Roosevelt's panama canal how he started the revolution so Panama could be a sepret county so he could make a treaty so build it another, thought unconstitution al is the Louisiana purchase because thomas Jefferson spent federalist party Money without no consent or a treaty thingy of Congress or the ppl's consent. both turn out to be good so no one bitched (in my opinion).
but thats just me nice guys finish last= presidents that dont break rules and even then there are ppl that brek them and its bad... its all just one jiant opionion of me.
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if obama wins i think in 6 months hell be assasinated By some kkk guy, i dont know anything about politics but like pepper said people are still rascist
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Barack Obama has clinched the Democratic nomination for President of the United States. The total number of delegates needed to secure the nomination is 2,118. Right now, Barack has the support of at least 2,179 delegates, which gives him a lock on the nomination.
http://www.barackobama.com/index.php
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McCain looks like he's gonna kick the bucket any second I don't think he could handle the pressure of being a world leader for very long. If he does he'll probabably do a piss poor job of it and end up as another yes man while his advisors and staff actually run the country. Obama for me.
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Think about this...
A month before the presidential election Obama get's shot. Not assassinated, but shot, to be assassinated is a term that applies honor to that person...
Once this happens the nation will be in a uproar (mostly the liberals). The Darth Cheney empire will declare martial law and hold office for an indefinite period of time.
Or...
McCain takes office and we are better off for it.
The moral of the story is, you can promote "hope and change" all you want but it's results that count and Obama has yet to show any in his limited political career.
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McCain...
I do think if Obama dose get the office he will be knocked down by someone that thinks the US shouldn't have a black Pres. (but not let us forget the man is half White). That is if he makes it that far. Someone will try to "take him out" before the polls even open. I think he already has had "real" threats already (that is why he had USSS with him way early, before anyone else)
All in all... IMHO America is not ready (maybe never) for a Black President, I think a white women would make it before a black man. I do think Hillary would have made it if Bill would have stayed out of her campaign.
McCain will make a fine President for 4 years, then Hillary will knock him out of office on the next election. Then we (The World) will be in deep shit, because I do think she will not take any shit and allot of "male" (Iran/Turkey) leaders are going to push allot of shit at her.
Kind of makes you wonder if 2012 will be around the time when the world goes into a VERY big change, life will not be as we know it now, you have 4 years, get ready.
Prediction... If Hillary runs with Obama as 2nd in command, Obama will win (or if he is killed before the Vote happens, Hillary will take the ticket and win). Obama will be taken out (if he makes it past the vote) and Hillary will take over... What I said above will happen sooner. The start of this Prediction will happen when Hillary says she is running with Obama. :P <<< Drill this into your head, this way you will remember where you seen it and not think it was dejavu. I hope you all get to say I am wrong and I hope I am.
EDIT... By the way, Hillary has "Suspended" and not stopped her campaign so she keeps all her Delagets for future use in this campaign, makes you wonder why doesn't it.
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EDIT... By the way, Hillary has "Suspended" and not stopped her campaign so she keeps all her Delagets for future use in this campaign, makes you wonder why doesn't it.
If you listened to her speech right after she stated that “it’s been a long contest and she’ll make no decision tonight” she went on the say she would everybody to visit her web site and post a message on their thoughts of this campaign. Right after that she stated “I would like to hear your stories and if you just want the help out in any way I’d like that too.” She left it open just for more donations. As soon as she concedes the money stops coming in. She is fishing for more donations knowing already she will quit the campaign. Typical politician, they want our money to spend on themselves.
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If you listened to her speech right after she stated that “it’s been a long contest and she’ll make no decision tonight” she went on the say she would everybody to visit her web site and post a message on their thoughts of this campaign. Right after that she stated “I would like to hear your stories and if you just want the help out in any way I’d like that too.” She left it open just for more donations. As soon as she concedes the money stops coming in. She is fishing for more donations knowing already she will quit the campaign. Typical politician, they want our money to spend on themselves.
Her campain went $20 million in debit. I am sure she wants to help Obama pay it off, cause it is customary for the winner to pay off his/her running opents debit.
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McCain looks like he's gonna kick the bucket any second I don't think he could handle the pressure of being a world leader for very long. If he does he'll probabably do a piss poor job of it and end up as another yes man while his advisors and staff actually run the country. Obama for me.
Your queen could kick the bucket anytime too lol.
McCain has experience, he knows the cost of war, he knows first hand what POWs experience. Obama hasn't done anything in his career that was great. I'm sure being a senator makes him PERFECT to be a president. In my opinion, a president should have been a officer in the military or a war hero, who cares how well he speaks? He is making decisions, not trying to speak better than you.
Edit: If we went to war next year, and Obama was president, how would he know what to do? I don't think senators know anything about guns or how the military works. Obama would want to "talk" to the opposition to solve the problem. All Obama has going for him is his speeches, which I don't find very spectacular. LETS CHANGE AMERICA! Well how is his going to do that? He's a dumbass.
McCain, HAS served in the military. He HAS been in a war, He HAS done stuff in his career as a senator. If we did go to war, he would know the cost of war, both money wise and human losses.
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McCain, HAS served in the military. He HAS been in a war, He HAS done stuff in his career as a senator. If we did go to war, he would know the cost of war, both money wise and human losses.
UMMMMM I am just wondering what it is we are at right now then?? I mean I have been through some bad areas in the US, but not ones that had mortars and IEDs. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't we at war????? Oh and actually you can never really know what the cost of war is going to be, both money wise and human loss. Everyone knows that there are going to be both, but how do you know what those numbers are going to be. Cause if someone knows they better tell me. Cause if we have met the number of human losses, I will go back in a heart beat. The money is pretty alright, it is just the constant getting shot at, the mortars, rockets and crazy fuckers blowing themselves up trying to kill you that kinda gets boring. I honestly think you don't understand what you say. Think about it, if anyone knows the money and human loss would be so high, do you think we would have went to war with Iraq without a real strategy??? Cause that is where all the money loss and human loss is going. We may have had a strategy for the invasion, but not helping restructor their government, so we had and have to stay longer, which costs money and human loss.
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UMMMMM I am just wondering what it is we are at right now then?? I mean I have been through some bad areas in the US, but not ones that had mortars and IEDs. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't we at war????? Oh and actually you can never really know what the cost of war is going to be, both money wise and human loss. Everyone knows that there are going to be both, but how do you know what those numbers are going to be. Cause if someone knows they better tell me. Cause if we have met the number of human losses, I will go back in a heart beat. The money is pretty alright, it is just the constant getting shot at, the mortars, rockets and crazy fuckers blowing themselves up trying to kill you that kinda gets boring. I honestly think you don't understand what you say. Think about it, if anyone knows the money and human loss would be so high, do you think we would have went to war with Iraq without a real strategy??? Cause that is where all the money loss and human loss is going. We may have had a strategy for the invasion, but not helping restructor their government, so we had and have to stay longer, which costs money and human loss.
More people die in the usa from hand guns monthly, than the soldiers that die in the middle east monthly. Hell, my brothers friend's little bro died over there early this year, from a IED. The older brother said, he never saw any action, and he had been all over IRAQ, since he has been over there 2 times now.
Theres more accidental military deaths on our soil yearly in the military, and theres much less that die over in the middle east yearly. And, we aren't at war with iraq or afgh. now, or there would be a actual military force there. A few idiots that want to blow stuff up aren't a military.
And what I meant with Mccain knowing more about it, was that he sees the money going toward the middle east coalition as a senator, and he has seen deaths of his fellow soldiers, and been a POW of war, so he has the experience that if we did go to war with a real military strength, he would know the "cost" of war.
The war in afgh was over pretty much the day we entered, as was iraq, we steam rolled what was left of their military that hadn't went into hiding. Sometimes I wish we our leaders had the balls to do what germany did with rebels during ww2. If we lined up a village of middle east residents and shot them by firing squad, I'm sure they wouldn't be pussies anymore and attack us passively.
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More people die in the usa from hand guns monthly, than the soldiers that die in the middle east monthly. Hell, my brothers friend's little bro died over there early this year, from a IED. The older brother said, he never saw any action, and he had been all over IRAQ, since he has been over there 2 times now.
Theres more accidental military deaths on our soil yearly in the military, and theres much less that die over in the middle east yearly. And, we aren't at war with iraq or afgh. now, or there would be a actual military force there. A few idiots that want to blow stuff up aren't a military.
Well you are right we aren't at war with any country. I think it is called at war with terrorism. And here is what Princeton defines war as:
*the waging of armed conflict against an enemy; "thousands of people were killed in the war"
*a legal state created by a declaration of war and ended by official declaration during which the international rules of war *apply; "war was declared in November but actual fighting did not begin until the following spring"
*an active struggle between competing entities; "a price war"; "a war of wits"; "diplomatic warfare"
*a concerted campaign to end something that is injurious; "the war on poverty"; "the war against crime"
make or wage war
I am not by far a college scholar like the people that came up with these deffanitions, but I do believe what we are doing falls under atleast 2 of those. It may just be me. I know we lose more people in the states over stupid shit like, hand guns, and other dumb shit. But no matter how many people don't want to say or think we aren't at war, we are. Correct me if I am wrong, but when they talk about Iraq what do they call it in the press, Congress, Senate, and the White House? Do they not call it the War in Iraq or the War in Afghanistan?
Also here is something else for you to take a look at:
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/concepts_war.html
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Your queen could kick the bucket anytime too lol.
Yeah, but she's not trying to get elected, she's been around a while and has no say on what governmental policy is anyway. Its interesting you brought up that comparison however because when it comes down to it, its not gonna matter who's president because in reality the president is just a glorified spokesperson/the face of America if you will. Its the Pentagon and other organisations that decide what the US does. All Presidents do now is take credit for successes or blame failures on their advisors but everything is laid out for them. The right for free thinking and action disappeared after Kennedy.
And what the hell does politics have to with military service? Kraut, you talk like the only purpose of the government is to start wars.
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Well you are right we aren't at war with any country. I think it is called at war with terrorism. And here is what Princeton defines war as:
*the waging of armed conflict against an enemy; "thousands of people were killed in the war"
*a legal state created by a declaration of war and ended by official declaration during which the international rules of war *apply; "war was declared in November but actual fighting did not begin until the following spring"
*an active struggle between competing entities; "a price war"; "a war of wits"; "diplomatic warfare"
*a concerted campaign to end something that is injurious; "the war on poverty"; "the war against crime"
make or wage war
I am not by far a college scholar like the people that came up with these deffanitions, but I do believe what we are doing falls under atleast 2 of those. It may just be me. I know we lose more people in the states over stupid shit like, hand guns, and other dumb shit. But no matter how many people don't want to say or think we aren't at war, we are. Correct me if I am wrong, but when they talk about Iraq what do they call it in the press, Congress, Senate, and the White House? Do they not call it the War in Iraq or the War in Afghanistan?
Just like the korean police action was a war? You can argue that the war of terror is bad, but look at a few pluses.
Saddam was a modern day hitler, he killed 1/6 as many civilians as hitler, he killed his own troops, he had to be stopped. Sure america has tested weapons on their on troops, which was bad to begin with, but it had to be done at some point to see the long term effects of radiation from the warheads.
If we hadn't invaded after 9-11, who knows it could have happened again? No one will ever know, but it could be worse just think that.
The drugs that were being exported from the middle east have been decreased by over 71%
The only way obama will win the presidentency is if his running mate is hilary clinton. Not because he is black, but because no person in their right mind will vote for someone that hates on reagan, or has a wife who thinks that country was bad, up until her husband ran for president, You can tell his wife shares the views of that racist pastor of theirs, so you know he is a racist prick too.
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Yeah, but she's not trying to get elected, she's been around a while and has no say on what governmental policy is anyway. Its interesting you brought up that comparison however because when it comes down to it, its not gonna matter who's president because in reality the president is just a glorified spokesperson/the face of America if you will. Its the Pentagon and other organisations that decide what the US does. All Presidents do now is take credit for successes or blame failures on their advisors but everything is laid out for them. The right for free thinking and action disappeared after Kennedy.
And what the hell does politics have to with military service? Kraut, you talk like the only purpose of the government is to start wars.
Governments are there to uphold the peace, and defend their citizens. I'm a republician so that might be why I guess.
The leaders in the government need to know what to do in time of war, obama is just a well dressed, good speaker, sure he may be the image of the country if he becomes president, but what we really need is a new Reagan. One that will intimidate our enemies before he elected president.
Obama is just another failure like Carter.
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The war in afgh was over pretty much the day we entered, as was iraq, we steam rolled what was left of their military that hadn't went into hiding. Sometimes I wish we our leaders had the balls to do what germany did with rebels during ww2. If we lined up a village of middle east residents and shot them by firing squad, I'm sure they wouldn't be pussies anymore and attack us passively.
We may have rolled over their military units, but just as well have the National Guard, they have militias. They may not have any of the same traits as ours, but it is some type of structure to them. Also, refering to your last statement, if we went into a village of middle east residents and shot them by firing squad, wouldn't we be doing exactly the same thing they did on 9/11. They executed how many Americans in the Twin Towers, Pentagon, and when the other plane went down in PA? Really, that is just as much terriorism as what they did to us.
Terrorism is defined as: The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
So, like I said, if we went into a village and shot people for no reason, that would be terrorism. I do agree that the way they fight is like a bunch of pussies. But look at our capabilities and then look at theirs. I am in no way defending what they do or believe in, but they are trying to do everything they can to win, which is not working.
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BARRAK OBAMA GOING TO WIN !! BARRAK OBAMA GOING TO WIN !! BARRAK OBAMA GOING TO WIN !! BARRAK OBAMA GOING TO WIN !! BARRAK OBAMA GOING TO WIN !!
And He going to give a kick in the racist like HELLRAISER SHIT§ ;D
Oh and just so you know there frenchy, he hates france. So know what do you think of that you frog fucker!!!!!
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Love to see just one tobic on this forum stay on tobic.
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Love to see just one tobic on this forum stay on tobic.
Well they just might be on tobic if we knew what that was, but they are getting way off of topic..
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Well they just might be on tobic if we knew what that was, but they are getting way off of topic..
You are the one who went off commenting on why mccain is the better choice. obama is a empty suit.
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If people are talking about John McCain and/or Barack Obama, relating it to them being the next president, then the it is NOT off-topic.
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You are the one who went off commenting on why mccain is the better choice. obama is a empty suit.
Are you feaking serious?? I just pointed out some flaws in your reply. I never once said who I think should be president. I don't vote so it doesn't really matter to me.
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Are you feaking serious?? I just pointed out some flaws in your reply. I never once said who I think should be president. I don't vote so it doesn't really matter to me.
If you aren't going to vote why do you care?
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If you aren't going to vote why do you care?
Read what the hell I wrote dumb ass. I said it doesn't matter to me. Wow, don't you read everything?
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Read what the hell I wrote dumb ass. I said it doesn't matter to me. Wow, don't you read everything?
you obviously care or you wouldn't post or reply in a thread about the subject.
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you obviously care or you wouldn't post or reply in a thread about the subject.
ASS!!! You look and tell me anywhere that says who I would vote for. I just posted to point out ignorance in your post with the whole lining up a village and shotting the villagers. That has got to be one of the most ignorant posts on here. I know you have said some dumb shit, but that has got to take the cake. Correct me if I am wrong, but don't you always come on here and say "the word nigger is used to much". You really need to think before you speak or write. I am done with your dumb ass. Trying to talk to you is like talking to my 3 year old son.
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ASS!!! You look and tell me anywhere that says who I would vote for. I just posted to point out ignorance in your post with the whole lining up a village and shotting the villagers. That has got to be one of the most ignorant posts on here. I know you have said some dumb shit, but that has got to take the cake. Correct me if I am wrong, but don't you always come on here and say "the word nigger is used to much". You really need to think before you speak or write. I am done with your dumb ass. Trying to talk to you is like talking to my 3 year old son.
It's happened in the past, and the people stopped killing the troops. Ignorance is the cancer of man.
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So who voted for Obama and doesnt want to defend their case? For me it is an easy choice with picking McCain. I have watched the race since the beginning and do not automatically vote Republican or Democratic. For me, being the first time I can vote as an adult I have looked into the canadates. Saying that McCain is a bad choice simply because he is old and MIGHT keel over doesnt prove anything. For me McCain has all the attributes of being a great president in these hard times. He has the needed experience from the military, Obama has none. His war policy is quite different from Obama's, McCain knows that political officers can not make decisions without the knowledge of recent activities from the military itself, whereas Obama is all for bringing the troops home now simply to get votes. McCain also has a plan to bring the troops home pretty soon but knows that if we pull out to fast then the resources spent over in the middle east will be a total waste. Did I miss anything else?
By the way Hellraiser.... A definition is a strict set of rules regarding an object or entity. If an example only proves part of the definition, then it isnt an example at all.
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To be honest, I am not even gonna vote. The Candidates just get worse and worse, whats the fucking point?
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Maybe it's just me, but i won't vote for a guy who says this about all asians...
"I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live."
and says shit like this to his wife...
"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt."
Also, he's about to die. And he has an amazingly short temper. And has PTSD, which could lead to him making irrational decisions. Kind of don't want that happening.
He's a supporter of Bush, and Bush kind of caused this whole shit storm in the middle east...and if you seriously think we've been "successful" in "liberating" them, then you must be fucking blind.
And hellraiser...i feel your pain. Krautkiller has made many frustrating and just plain moronic comments in the past, don't try to make sense of them.
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Maybe it's just me, but i won't vote for a guy who says this about all asians...
"I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live."
and says shit like this to his wife...
"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt."
Also, he's about to die. And he has an amazingly short temper. And has PTSD, which could lead to him making irrational decisions. Kind of don't want that happening.
He's a supporter of Bush, and Bush kind of caused this whole shit storm in the middle east...and if you seriously think we've been "successful" in "liberating" them, then you must be fucking blind.
And hellraiser...i feel your pain. Krautkiller has made many frustrating and just plain moronic comments in the past, don't try to make sense of them.
I would like to see some factual sources where you exactly came up with those quotes. Until then I will assume that they were made up by your "creative" mind. I would however consider the anger he HAD with asians, specifically the Vietnamese. This is only due to the 5 and a half years he was a POW and underwent brutal torture.
Once again with the old comments. As I said in my last post, saying that he is old is nonsense and doesn't prove anything. As for PTSD, the information regarding the tests done have not been released, so any assumption made concerning the matter will just make an ass out of you and me.
For the middle east "liberation" I can say that we needed as American citizens to fight the terrorists who caused 9/11 or other multiple terrorist acts. I am not going to go into detal about how exactly that is being done.
My heart also goes out to the troops who have served in the military, such as Hellraiser and Bonehead. I however do not disagree with some of the words and examples Krautkiller has brought up. If you ignore the past then it will lead to a repeat untill the problems are found and solved. History repeats itself.
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True. But when voting for the lesser of two evils, evil still gets voted in. This is the same old redundant circumstance we've been subjected to since JFK was assinated.
I would like to see Mike Huckabee in there myself.
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Some of the shit that Obama said about pulling the troops out of Iraq just won't and can't happen. We are so deep in over there that pulling out is not an option. Both President elects have both good and bad postions on certain views. That is how it is always going to be.
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The war in afgh was over pretty much the day we entered, as was iraq, we steam rolled what was left of their military that hadn't went into hiding. Sometimes I wish we our leaders had the balls to do what germany did with rebels during ww2. If we lined up a village of middle east residents and shot them by firing squad, I'm sure they wouldn't be pussies anymore and attack us passively.
You say "Ignorance is the cancer of man" ?? You are the most ignorant fuck I have ever met. Next time before you blurt something out like that, don't... I was so content before you started posting in these forums again, now I find myself losing brain cells reading your moronic bullshit... fucktard.
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True. But when voting for the lesser of two evils, evil still gets voted in. This is the same old redundant circumstance we've been subjected to since JFK was assinated.
I would like to see Mike Huckabee in there myself.
McCain will get a extreme liberal as his running mate, before he gets huckabee :(
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You say "Ignorance is the cancer of man" ?? You are the most ignorant fuck I have ever met. Next time before you blurt something out like that, don't... I was so content before you started posting in these forums again, now I find myself losing brain cells reading your moronic bullshit... fucktard.
I think you should be like hellraiser and start quoting the dictionary again.
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I think you should be like hellraiser and start quoting the dictionary again.
I think you should read what you write before you post it because you sound like a complete ingnorant douche bag.
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I think you should read what you write before you post it because you sound like a complete ingnorant douche bag.
And I'm sure you sound so awesome.
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And I'm sure you sound so awesome.
Holy fucking hell... I don't even know why I deal with you. I might as well go argue with my 5 year old cousin about the election.
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Holy fucking hell... I don't even know why I deal with you. I might as well go argue with my 5 year old cousin about the election.
That's pretty ignorant too?
I can be ignorant about how we should kill prisoners, and you can be ignorant just by being a ass.
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If people are talking about John McCain and/or Barack Obama, relating it to them being the next president, then the it is NOT off-topic.
The above posts is why I said what I did, War has no business in this thread. Just because adding a name of the topic in a post with another subject doesn't make it on topic... See where it went to? So now there is about 12 post that mean nothing to this thread.
This is why making threads about religion or politics is pointless and a waste of forum space, it never stays on topic. Move the damn thing to "Spam" were it belongs.
Oh wait... Go McCain ::)
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Go McCain!
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haha, 50/50
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mccain.
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Oh wait... Go McCain ::)
Aren't you two about the same age. Anyway, I know when I posted what I did wasn't when it started to go off. I know that my post did help take it off, but I just couldn't let an ingnorant statement like that go with responding to it.
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I just couldn't let a ingnorant statement like that go
Irony?
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I'm staying out of the politics in this thread but thanks to Hellraiser and Bonehead and ALL!! who have served their country. All Hail the Brave.
Hail and Kill, Manowar
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I would like to see some factual sources where you exactly came up with those quotes. Until then I will assume that they were made up by your "creative" mind.
For the middle east "liberation" I can say that we needed as American citizens to fight the terrorists who caused 9/11 or other multiple terrorist acts. I am not going to go into detal about how exactly that is being done.
My heart also goes out to the troops who have served in the military, such as Hellraiser and Bonehead. I however do not disagree with some of the words and examples Krautkiller has brought up. If you ignore the past then it will lead to a repeat untill the problems are found and solved. History repeats itself.
Sources of the "cunt" comment....
1. http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html
2. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/01/mccain-asked-did-you-call_n_99744.html
3. http://www.drudge.com/news/106692/author-mccain-called-wife-cunt-trollop
That should be enough information to let you know i didn't make it up. As for the "gook" comment...
1. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml
2. http://www.asianam.org/mccain.htm
3. http://www.crazy-headlines.com/Conx/default.aspx?page=cmArticleItem.ascx?AK=6OmTQJWH8dI=
As for the "we should deal justice to those who caused 9/11" comment...then shouldn't we be invading Saudi Arabia? Because the terrorist high jackers of the 9/11 planes were all Saudi except like 3 or 4 who were either Iranian or Afgan, and one or two Iraqis.
Also, you can't invade an entire country for what a few people did. Sure what they did was horrible, but look at it this way. When that guy did the Virginia Tech killings last year, we didn't invade South Korea did we? Of course not, you can't blame an entire country for what one of their people did. So you can't just go invading countries like it's no big deal, and when you do invade them...expect people to fight back. Don't be surprised when they do.
I have a great deal of respect for those serving their country as well, i'm just ashamed that the ones who lost their lives had to die for something that is ultimately a lost cause, in my opinion.
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That's pretty ignorant too?
I can be ignorant about how we should kill prisoners, and you can be ignorant just by being a ass.
You want me to quote the dictionary? Here you go you stupid fuck...
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ig·no·rance
The state or fact of being ignorant: lack of knowledge, education, or awareness.
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Oh and the "That's pretty ignorant too?"... What you weren't sure whether it was or not so your put a question mark at the end of a statement? You need to stop typing, and start paying attention in school, if you are even still in that is... Either that or cut your wrist and OD on pain killers. Who knew such stupidity could be the product of society? Or was it your parents fault?
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Sources of the "cunt" comment....
1. http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html
2. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/01/mccain-asked-did-you-call_n_99744.html
3. http://www.drudge.com/news/106692/author-mccain-called-wife-cunt-trollop
That should be enough information to let you know i didn't make it up. As for the "gook" comment...
1. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml
2. http://www.asianam.org/mccain.htm
3. http://www.crazy-headlines.com/Conx/default.aspx?page=cmArticleItem.ascx?AK=6OmTQJWH8dI=
As for the "we should deal justice to those who caused 9/11" comment...then shouldn't we be invading Saudi Arabia? Because the terrorist high jackers of the 9/11 planes were all Saudi except like 3 or 4 who were either Iranian or Afgan, and one or two Iraqis.
Also, you can't invade an entire country for what a few people did. Sure what they did was horrible, but look at it this way. When that guy did the Virginia Tech killings last year, we didn't invade South Korea did we? Of course not, you can't blame an entire country for what one of their people did. So you can't just go invading countries like it's no big deal, and when you do invade them...expect people to fight back. Don't be surprised when they do.
I have a great deal of respect for those serving their country as well, i'm just ashamed that the ones who lost their lives had to die for something that is ultimately a lost cause, in my opinion.
liberal *cough*
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I'm voting McCain even though we should elect a democrat since our economy is crashing but obama is black and will get shot anyways.
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Why does everyone think Obama is going to get shot, where did that come from? It's not going to happen.
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Why does everyone think Obama is going to get shot, where did that come from? It's not going to happen.
He's black duhhhhhh beatle.
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Why does everyone think Obama is going to get shot, where did that come from? It's not going to happen.
There are a lot of crazy people in these states that I am sure are capable of it. If he stays in the chambers at the white house i'm sure he'll be fine.
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Why does everyone think Obama is going to get shot, where did that come from? It's not going to happen.
Because people have been threatening him if he takes office.
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liberal *cough*
oh my god blakjax was totally right...you're a fucking moron. I bothered to post all of that information, sources, and tons of facts...and all you have to say is "Liberal?" Come on man! That's like when you prove your little sister wrong in an argument and she responds "doody head." Jesus you're amazingly immature, and probably should stay out of topics like this. It makes me sad knowing people like you CAN vote.
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oh my god blakjax was totally right...you're a fucking moron. I bothered to post all of that information, sources, and tons of facts...and all you have to say is "Liberal?" Come on man! That's like when you prove your little sister wrong in an argument and she responds "doody head." Jesus you're amazingly immature, and probably should stay out of topics like this. It makes me sad knowing people like you CAN vote.
I am surprised that you just figured all that out haha.
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oh my god blakjax was totally right...you're a fucking moron. I bothered to post all of that information, sources, and tons of facts...and all you have to say is "Liberal?" Come on man! That's like when you prove your little sister wrong in an argument and she responds "doody head." Jesus you're amazingly immature, and probably should stay out of topics like this. It makes me sad knowing people like you CAN vote.
I personally think that he has mental issues. Either that or he has to be fucking with us. There is no way that someone can be that retarded and know how to use a computer.
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Mccain all the way. who in the hell wants a nigger to be our president
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Mccain all the way. who in the hell wants a nigger to be our president
im guessing other black people??
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I personally think that he has mental issues. Either that or he has to be fucking with us. There is no way that someone can be that retarded and know how to use a computer.
cd ..
mkdir hellraiser
touch hellraiser_2
vi hellraiser_2
Real computer skills :P
But back on track, go mccain!
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cd ..
mkdir hellraiser
touch hellraiser_2
vi hellraiser_2
Real computer skills :P
But back on track, go mccain!
Thats relevant to everything they have said!!! [/sarcasm]
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Hmm, i don't know much about this but:
Stupid Clinton stopped it because she couldn't win it.
McCain is too old for being the president of such a BIG country,
i'm not black but i vote for Obama!
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Hmm, i don't know much about this but:
Stupid Clinton stopped it because she couldn't win it.
McCain is too old for being the president of such a BIG country,
i'm not black but i vote for Obama!
God damn... you are fucking moronic.
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We need a President with a good idea of how to handle these gas prices.
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lol blah blah, president = best interest for government and self, along with oil loving tyrants in government. wake up people lol gas prices = fall of americas economy :) wtg $7.00 dollar a gal by winter :) when you all wake up it will indeed be to late :) i hope gas goes up and up, i want you all to wake the fuck up and see what man will bring :)
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Obama is a more better than mccain
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Obama is a more better than mccain
You never posting again is "more better"than anything else.
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LOL
the only thing mccain isent being honest about are the little nuts he keeps in his mouth that he never shares
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Ricardo reply above (#69) was not spam so it should not have been deleted.
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you get em beatle god almighty!!!
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McCain is a man better than obama.
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Ricardo reply above (#69) was not spam so it should not have been deleted.
Everything that frog fucker writes is spam.
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McCain is a man better than obama.
Why?
From all of the speeches and videos I have seen, McCain contradicts much of his information every time he speaks. Basically he is a "flip-flopper," which you may remember Kerry was too. Would you really want us to stay in Iraq for a 100 years, as proposed by McCain?
I think Obama as President and Clinton as VP would really strengthen the Democratic party. Clinton would be able to help Obama in certain things like healthcare that he may not be strong in, and vice-versa. In my opinion, we have gone too long under a Republican leadership and it has not really done any good for us.
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they are the same pants man.
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The elections are in November?
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The elections are in November?
yep to answer ur question
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Why?
From all of the speeches and videos I have seen, McCain contradicts much of his information every time he speaks. Basically he is a "flip-flopper," which you may remember Kerry was too. Would you really want us to stay in Iraq for a 100 years, as proposed by McCain?
I think Obama as President and Clinton as VP would really strengthen the Democratic party. Clinton would be able to help Obama in certain things like healthcare that he may not be strong in, and vice-versa. In my opinion, we have gone too long under a Republican leadership and it has not really done any good for us.
As far as Ive seen Obama has "flip-flopped" on many other things too. As for McCain's policy to stay in Iraq for 100 years... is totaly untrue and made up by yourself. McCain has proposed to bring the troops back home in a slower pace so the Iraqi government will be able to handle the terrorist groups. I believe I have already mentioned that in an earlier post.
As for Hilary being selected as VP would allow Obama to gain her voters support. Clinton would be able to actually act upon the things that Obama is pledging for. The Rebublican leadership hasnt gone on for an extended amount of time, unless you see 8 years under one president a long time.
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Check out what Barack Obama has to say about the bible:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/24/evangelical.vote/index.html
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Obama suggested that it would be impractical to govern based solely on the word of the Bible
I agree with him, the bible is for the most part completely insane, I like this Obama guy even more. Its good to know Obama doesn't quite live in cloud cuckoo land like Bush.
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Dune I editted your post above because it was off-topic. Its not gone, I just copied and pasted it here: http://www.mafiaowns.com/index.php/topic,7787.15.html
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OK, I don't really see how its off topic. I was talking about politics and refering to your post but w/e ::)
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Well it was fine at first, that's what I left up there. However, your 2nd part is talking a whole lot more about religion than politics, or even talking about them together, but its not about the 2008 election. I don't want this thread to stray in another direction. I want it to be simply about the the policies of Barack Obama vs. John McCain. Especially with the religion subject, we've had so many of those here and they can take any thread off-topic.
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I agree with him, the bible is for the most part completely insane, I like this Obama guy even more. Its good to know Obama doesn't quite live in cloud cuckoo land like Bush.
Where did you get that from?? The quote doesnt even mean anything close to what you are referencing. It strickly means that words spoken in the bible from long ago dont directly force meaning into the world today. That is why this Obama guy feels the need to "translate" it into his own interpretation out to the people. If you would read the rest of the article it would tell you this. Never once did Obama say that the bible was completly insane... and will never since he himself is Christian. For referencing Bush into this... Bush doesnt lead by words of the bible, not at all.
Go McCain!!
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I agree with him, the bible is for the most part completely insane, I like this Obama guy even more. Its good to know Obama doesn't quite live in cloud cuckoo land like Bush.
ya, i agree with that.
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Where did you get that from?? The quote doesnt even mean anything close to what you are referencing. It strickly means that words spoken in the bible from long ago dont directly force meaning into the world today. That is why this Obama guy feels the need to "translate" it into his own interpretation out to the people. If you would read the rest of the article it would tell you this. Never once did Obama say that the bible was completly insane... and will never since he himself is Christian. For referencing Bush into this... Bush doesnt lead by words of the bible, not at all.
Go McCain!!
OK ::) Read my post again, I never said Obama said the Bible is insane thats just my opinion. I simply agreed with and I'll quote it again:
Obama suggested that it would be impractical to govern based solely on the word of the Bible
I did read the whole article and I never said Bush leads by the words in the bible. I just said he lives in cloud cuckoo land.
This would have been alot clearer if *cough* someone didn't edit my post so it couldn't be taken out of context.
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This would have never happened if someone *cough* didn't spam the Election 2008 thread with his/her own religious beliefs that had nothing to do with Barack Obama or John McCain! NOOBS!@#$%^&*
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I know it is media, but it fits into this thread.
http://blogs.sohh.com/hiphop4prez/2008/05/empire_strikes_barack_funny_as.html
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blah blah cockatitions are all the same they can suck a good cock but they just cant swallow...
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Did any of you guys watch this: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/17/forum/index.html
If so, what are your thoughts?
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Obama has chosen his VP - Joe Biden from Delaware. I've actually briefly met that guy. He spoke at my sister's graduation from the University of Delaware, and my mom and I spotted him in his car leaving the parking lot, and we talked for like 20 seconds.
Here's the story:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/23/biden.democrat.vp.candidate/index.html
So, that leaves McCain to choose his on August 29th, any guesses?
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So, that leaves McCain to choose his on August 29th, any guesses?
Mitt Romney?
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That's who I think it will be. Don't think it's a good choice though.
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Romney, as much as i can't stand the guy, is really good at avoiding questions. I mean, the guys a master at it, he's just really fucking good at avoiding hot topic issues and changing the subject without anyone realizing it, McCain on the other hand blows at public speaking, and the guys got a temper too.
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Fuck it, I am still voting for Regan!!!!
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Fuck it, I am still voting for Regan!!!!
I'd vote for Nebraska.
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I vote Charlton Heston, no he's dead.... well the other guy that hasn't died yet. He sounds good ;D
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i vote for none of the worthless fucks...
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Let me make a prediction. McCain will select the female Governor from Alaska. Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin
If you get a chance read her BIO. I was impressed. On top of that you she's not bad for the eyes as a past Miss Alaska contestant.
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Did anyone see the speech by Obama at the DNC last night? It was a really good speech and he really hit McCain hard on some of the negative things McCain has said about him. I'm voting for Obama cuz I want change (you've probably heard this from everyone). I'm not sure about each individual state but the economy here in California is suffering badly. People might say that Obama is not ready to lead and that he is inexperienced, but that's exactly what the Republicans said to Bill Clinton back when he was running in 1992, and look what happened to the country. It was probably the best time we had under his leadership. Now McCain is not leaning towards any major change, thus a continuation of Bush's old ways. I'd rather take a chance and go for some change than no change at all.
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Did anyone see the speech by Obama at the DNC last night? It was a really good speech and he really hit McCain hard on some of the negative things McCain has said about him. I'm voting for Obama cuz I want change
This is not a knock on Obama but on all politicians.. Speech's don't mean anything. Every politician give an inspiring speech on how they are different to get elected but once they are elected then they turn into the typical Washington CORRUPT politician. I mean that for both parties. Normally people don't run for office to become corrupt but the political system will eventually corrupt everybody. Big Business owns this country plan and simple.
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I do agree with you about the businesses, but I think that needs to start changing.
Also, McCain has picked Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin as his VP.
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Also, McCain has picked Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin as his VP.
You nailed that one, who's your insider.
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I got him by 4 1/2 hours lol
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Oh boy, Palin's 17 year old high school daughter is pregnant... The other side said nothing would be talked about over the subject, no shots made. But as always the Media is making sure they have their say.
I care about my gun rights and for me to keep them McCain/Palin have to win. This is going to be so close of a race.
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I got him by 4 1/2 hours lol
Indeed you did. Props to the Rat man for having somebody on the inside.
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Sometimes working for the FAA and having friends around the country at different airports helps.
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Sometimes working for the FAA and having friends around the country at different airports helps.
Or just watch CNN at 7am in the morning when they say "A flight just left Juno for Dayton and we believe Palin is on the aircraft" ;)
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Sometimes working for the FAA and having friends around the country at different airports helps.
Damn you RATS are sneaky :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
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A funny one about Palin
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-W5IAPK0hbU
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The only thing funnier than that is actually voting for Obama.
Why? Are you happy with the way things are going right now? I really don't think you have seen the current situation in many, if not all, parts of the country. McCain isn't promising anything new; it's just going to be the same as Bush. Are you going to bring up the issue of experience? It's very likely that McCain might die during his term and Palin will be in charge, and that's pretty scary. I hope you know something about her, because most people still don't. She has less experience than Obama, being a mayor of a small town and a governor, and that makes her qualified to lead the WHOLE country? Atleast Obama has experience in the Senate and has done many good things for Chicago, unlike Palin and her recent investigations . Bet you haven't heard about those. Troopergate? Bridge To Nowhere spending? Personal spending? What foreign policy experience does Palin have? She claimed she visited Iraq but an investigation proved that she went to the border but never actually set foot into the country, since she didn't have clearance to do so. So we are at a crisis with Russia, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan and you want someone to be in power who claims she can "see parts of Russia from here in Alaska" when asked about the situation in Russia!
Or are you just scared that a black man might have power and be able to make decisions? Oh now you are going to say he's Muslim, aren't you? What does religion have anything to do with this? Did he say that if he becomes President, everyone has to be a Muslim? This is America, a land of diverse people. This land never belonged to you, it doesn't belong to me, and it doesn't belong to him. We are in this country as a whole.
It was wrong for us to go into Iraq. Do you know why people like them attack us, like they did on September 11? It's because we have been in their country, telling them what to do. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if some foreign nation came into America, took over and told us what to do. The "terrorists" didn't even come from Iraq. Maybe if the US had focused on Afghanistan or Pakistan, we wouldn't have been going on for this long. Yes I'm grateful for the soldiers who gave up their lives to help keep our "freedom" but that doesn't mean that they want to keep fighting, nor do we. They are the ones who signed up for the army and wanted to fight; no one forced them to be in it.
Back the political side of this...I'd rather have something new and turn this country around rather than keep going with the same policies and hope that it will change something. If you think fighting your way through to gain support of other countries and settle problems is a good idea, have you paid attention to the last 8 years?
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McCain is PROMISING change. Obama on the other hand doesnt have any key factors in any economic policies at all. If Obama is elected, enjoy your tax incentives while the nation crashes below your feet. Taxing the wealthy, the people who hold this country together, will only come back and bite you right in the ass. I personally believe that Palin is a great choice for a VP. Have you ever listened to one of her speeches or are you just basing your assumptions on what the media tells you. Dont worry, the media will always steer you on the right path.
How dare you accuse me of being a racist or having some disgust in whatever religion he is. I personally have no problem with diversity, but it seems that you must since you have brought it up. I didnt say anything about religion at all, so to answer your question about what religion has to do with this, my answer is NOTHING.
Saying bad things about what decisions were made 8 years ago with the war has nothing to do with now. Are you percisting that we should just bail out with the war right now? If so you are idiotic.
So to politics: McCain promises economic goals whereas Obama doesnt have any clue about economics, but seems to only have a sight into socialist policies.
P.S. If you still believe that FEMA is terrible, like Obama, you are also wrong.
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Wow roshan. Never thought you would bring up race/religion just like every other media outlet in this fucked up country.
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Why not? I'm just addressing a big issue that affects a lot of people.
McCain is PROMISING change.
And what would that be?
I personally believe that Palin is a great choice for a VP. Have you ever listened to one of her speeches...
Why is she a great choice? Back up your statements. What can she do that Joe Biden can't? I've listened to her speeches, and I've also listened to all the others'. Have you ever noticed that McCain or Palin never talk about how they will address a problem? They just say the problem and that they will fix it. That's not very reassuring.
How dare you accuse me of being a racist or having some disgust in whatever religion he is.
What I wrote before doesn't accuse you of being racist. Many people who don't like Obama always say something along the lines of his Muslim name.
Saying bad things about what decisions were made 8 years ago with the war has nothing to do with now.
Actually it does. If the choices had been different, maybe the country might have been better off today. You really think that all the money and resources spent on the war haven't contributed to our failing economy?
Are you percisting that we should just bail out with the war right now? If so you are idiotic.
Did I ever say to pull our right now? Read my reply again. I said if they had actually focused on the countries that were responsible for the attacks, maybe we could have been done faster with this.
McCain promises economic goals whereas Obama doesnt have any clue about economics
And what goals would those be? All I've heard come out of his mouth is "country comes first" and "that's not change we can believe in." If you paid attention to his speeches, you can tell he either doesn't know what he is talking about or is lying about it.
If you still believe that FEMA is terrible, like Obama, you are also wrong.
Don't take things out of context. He was referring to what they did and didn't do when Katrina came. If you don't know what I'm talking about, read this. This is where you got your assumption from. \/
We can talk about what happened for a few days in 2005. And we should. We can talk about levees that couldn't hold; about a FEMA that seemed not just incompetent, but paralyzed and powerless; about a President who only saw the people from the window of an airplane. We can talk about a trust that was broken - the promise that our government will be prepared, will protect us, and will respond in a catastrophe.
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wow roshan, pretty good post. Ya i hate that soccer bitch Palin, and McCain has a 30% of dying in office. Palin didn't even know about bush's policies when she was asked about them during an interview, i'll try to dig it up but she just makes a total ass of herself in it.
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Watch this Roshan....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM3Ls8NNc5Q
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Anyone who votes for Obama must first understand the basics of Economics. Refer to the post above this one.
Oblivious to the facts. Obama wants to redistribute the wealth in the country which has also been tried by many other presidents and has always failed. Taking money away from the wealthy is going to result in less jobs overall. McCain actually has a really good electricity and power policy. I believe that nuclear power is an amazing way to go. Did you know that 95% of France's power comes from nuclear power? Obama on the other hand wants to invest lots of money into renewable energy, which coming from a pocket-pinching economy isnt the right way to go.
It seems that you believe that simple Socialist problems will have a huge effect on worldly economic issues. Taxing the oil companies over seas is just going to make them raise the taxes and stir up different ways of making those profits back. Yes both candidates both believe that we are very dependent on foreign oil, but why not create or own ways of finding our own oil.
So saying that people dont like Obama because of his Muslim name is the same as calling McCain old. Yes McCain is going to be 72 on election day, but that would only be the oldest by a mere 3 years over any other president. Both serve the same purpose of being completely irrelevant....
The war effort is a case that really only has on tie to both canidates. McCain is only promissing that he will not let the terrorists win the war. He sees that Americans along with other countries of the world have spent alot of resources and knows that it is for the better. Moving the war to another part of a country is not going to help spending or resolution any better than it is right now.
I stand by my word, FEMA was not at fault when Katrina hit. Learn the facts of what actually needs to happen for FEMA to step in and help. Then read up on what happened around the time before and after Katrina hit. Then you will find the answer to why you are wrong.
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Palin got hacked:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Screenshots here (unless they get removed):
http://gawker.com/5051193/sarah-palins-personal-emails
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if obama wins i think in 6 months hell be assasinated By some kkk guy, i dont know anything about politics but like pepper said people are still rascist
i dont know if someone said this already or not (i got into this thread way to late) but i agree with you702, but McCain will croak before his first term. he's way to old, like 72 or something close to that.
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i dont know if someone said this already or not (i got into this thread way to late) but i agree with you702, but McCain will croak before his first term. he's way to old, like 72 or something close to that.
Technically McCain would be only about 2 years older than when one of the best Republicans or Presidents was elected. That being Ronald Reagan who was less than a month way from being 70 when he was elected. I guess those 2 years made the difference.
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Technically McCain would be only about 2 years older than when one of the best Republicans or Presidents was elected. That being Ronald Reagan who was less than a month way from being 70 when he was elected. I guess those 2 years made the difference.
that old goat Reagan didn't know what he was doing half the time because of his Alzheimers disease. He was just a wanna-be john wayne, and his retarded trickle down theory never did work. Tax cuts for the rich will help the poor who don't get any tax breaks? Ya, great theory reagan, it's no wonder half his decisions didn't make any sense, his dementia was setting in.
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that old goat Reagan didn't know what he was doing half the time because of his Alzheimers disease. He was just a wanna-be john wayne, and his retarded trickle down theory never did work. Tax cuts for the rich will help the poor who don't get any tax breaks? Ya, great theory reagan, it's no wonder half his decisions didn't make any sense, his dementia was setting in.
You obviously need to take another U.S. history class. Ever heard of anything called "Reaganomics" and what it did for the economy. How about "detente" or the ending of the Cold War? If nothing seemed to work in his presidency... then why did RGDP continue to rise? He only created 16 million new jobs while allowing inflation to drop. As far as Alzheimers disease has anything to do with his policies, it doesnt matter.
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You do realize that there are cons to it as well right? I got the exact details from a site...you might want to see. Click Here. (http://youdebate.com/DEBATES/REAGANOMICS.HTM)
There are good things AND bad things to his plans. Maybe you should look at both sides of something before jumping to conclusions.
According to the Statistical Abstract of the United States for 1996, the number of people (white, black, and Hispanic) below the poverty level increased in almost every year between 1981 (31.8 million) and 1992 (39.3 million).
The trade deficit quadrupled.
The savings rate did not rise in the 1980s, as supply-side advocates had predicted. In fact, in the 1980s the personal savings rate fell from 8 percent to 6.5 percent. If the median family was better off why did their savings go down?
In 1993 Clinton raised the taxes on the rich, the opposite of Reaganomics, opponents argued that this would stop the growing economy. That did not happen.
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You do realize that there are cons to it as well right? I got the exact details from a site...you might want to see. Click Here. (http://youdebate.com/DEBATES/REAGANOMICS.HTM)
There are good things AND bad things to his plans. Maybe you should look at both sides of something before jumping to conclusions.
According to the Statistical Abstract of the United States for 1996, the number of people (white, black, and Hispanic) below the poverty level increased in almost every year between 1981 (31.8 million) and 1992 (39.3 million).
The trade deficit quadrupled.
The savings rate did not rise in the 1980s, as supply-side advocates had predicted. In fact, in the 1980s the personal savings rate fell from 8 percent to 6.5 percent. If the median family was better off why did their savings go down?
In 1993 Clinton raised the taxes on the rich, the opposite of Reaganomics, opponents argued that this would stop the growing economy. That did not happen.
All this can be solved by simply learning for yourself what exactly economics is. If you would truely care about the welfare of this country you would be able to see past these "facts". If you only read what the news and other media tell you instead of creating your own basis you will plunge into the hole the media creates. Im not here to defend other Republicans or Democrats or any other president in the past history. Once again you are using things way out of context. Instead of basing things on the candidates right now, you took how old compared to one of the best out of context and "waged war on the candidate i support." Your facts may be true but my personal logic will not change.
Back to the ELECTION OF 2008! Go!
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If the median family was better off why did their savings go down?
In 1993 Clinton raised the taxes on the rich, the opposite of Reaganomics, opponents argued that this would stop the growing economy. That did not happen.
Word.
If you would truely care about the welfare of this country you would be able to see past these "facts".
LOL WUT? They're facts, they aren't biased, just cold hard facts. You claimed one thing, roshan proved another, and what does "caring about this country" have to do with presenting facts?
Your facts may be true but my personal logic will not change.
If you claim everything was fine and dandy with reagan, and then roshan comes up and basically says "no way jose, check these statistics son", then how exactly is his post "out of context?
And about your logic not changing, why is that? You say Reagan is jeebus, Roshan poops on your claim, you admit his facts to be true, but still don't change your view or even admit maybe he(reagan) was in the wrong a little bit? Come now good sir, that's just redonculous.
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Did anyone see the speech by Obama at the DNC last night? It was a really good speech and he really hit McCain hard on some of the negative things McCain has said about him. I'm voting for Obama cuz I want change (you've probably heard this from everyone). I'm not sure about each individual state but the economy here in California is suffering badly. People might say that Obama is not ready to lead and that he is inexperienced, but that's exactly what the Republicans said to Bill Clinton back when he was running in 1992, and look what happened to the country. It was probably the best time we had under his leadership. Now McCain is not leaning towards any major change, thus a continuation of Bush's old ways. I'd rather take a chance and go for some change than no change at all.
This is what I'm scared about. People making assumptions about what they think will happen. All that I can see a president doing is boosting confidence in the economy and letting other people take care of other matters. He's a figurehead and if he surrounds himself by good people, then I'll vote for him. I really don't care one way or the other which party they are from. I think that both will do a good job of bringing 'change' so I'd rather see someone who has more leadership and better economic views - McCain.
I can't stomach the fact that people who don't pay taxes will get tax returns in the thousands of dollars and that small business owners will be losing a lot of the returns they would normally get.
According to the Statistical Abstract of the United States for 1996, the number of people (white, black, and Hispanic) below the poverty level increased in almost every year between 1981 (31.8 million) and 1992 (39.3 million).
When Reagan took office in 1981, the unemployment rate was 7.6 percent. In the recession of 1981-82, that rate peaked at 9.7 percent, but it fell continuously for the next seven years. When Reagan left office, the unemployment rate was 5.5 percent.
I think this is a much stronger statement.
The trade deficit quadrupled.
War-time: understandable Boost economies of other nations that we supported against the USSR and also deal in materials for arms and other military things we were building up.
The savings rate did not rise in the 1980s, as supply-side advocates had predicted. In fact, in the 1980s the personal savings rate fell from 8 percent to 6.5 percent. If the median family was better off why did their savings go down?
People having more money and SAVING it in the bank causes savings rates to go down - take economics. If there is an excess in savings it drives the rate down.
In 1993 Clinton raised the taxes on the rich, the opposite of Reaganomics, opponents argued that this would stop the growing economy. That did not happen.
Clinton rode the surplus that Reagan created – look at the facts. Reagan might not have known very much about economics but he surrounded himself with some of the most intelligent and crazy economics people of the time. The economy takes some time before things change which is apparent in later years.
LOL WUT? They're facts, they aren't biased, just cold hard facts. You claimed one thing, roshan proved another, and what does "caring about this country" have to do with presenting facts?
He’s saying that these are opinions that a person who is most likely not even a professional came up with and put up there for debate. I think caring about a person’s country is a very nice thing
If you claim everything was fine and dandy with reagan, and then roshan comes up and basically says "no way jose, check these statistics son", then how exactly is his post "out of context?
They are out of context since he is saying that this happened but not explaining why. Do you know what “out of context” means?
And about your logic not changing, why is that? You say Reagan is jeebus, Roshan poops on your claim, you admit his facts to be true, but still don't change your view or even admit maybe he(reagan) was in the wrong a little bit?
He knows the logic behind economics so his point of view isn’t going to change. He claims his facts are true because they are – just out of context.
Come now good sir, that's just redonculous.
Redonculous or intelligent?
Word.
Great show of intelligence.
Just my non-liberal two cents. Barack Hussein Obama - that name scares me. Wub.
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All the stuff I wrote previously was not stuff I made up. I found that on a website which listed the pro's and con's of it. So if you think I'm making it up and you're proving me wrong, not true. There are pro's and con's to everything; I was just telling you some of the cons since you mentioned some of the pros.
Also found two articles on CNN about Palin's recent "activity." Discuss.
"Proposal" (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/18/palins-transparency-proposal-already-exists-in-dc/#more-19188)
Investigation (http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/18/palin%E2%80%99s-cooperation-does-it-matter/)
Article (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/18/palin.investigation/index.html#cnnSTCText)
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All the stuff I wrote previously was not stuff I made up. I found that on a website which listed the pro's and con's of it. So if you think I'm making it up and you're proving me wrong, not true. There are pro's and con's to everything; I was just telling you some of the cons since you mentioned some of the pros.
Also found two articles on CNN about Palin's recent "activity." Discuss.
"Proposal" (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/18/palins-transparency-proposal-already-exists-in-dc/#more-19188)
Investigation (http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/18/palin%E2%80%99s-cooperation-does-it-matter/)
Article (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/18/palin.investigation/index.html#cnnSTCText)
Well if you want the media to decide everything for you then I have a "fact" for you to discuss. Why is it that they media has so much bias that they could be pushing to elect Obama. They even conducted a poll and 5 to 1 said that the media has a bias towards Obama.
Try reading for yourself about Economics and what exactly politics and government policies are about. < This is where my reasoning comes from. You may have not been the one that created what you are "proving" but you sure are supporting them by bringing them to your defense.
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I am not letting the media decide for me. I'm using the facts/information listed on there to make my own decision. Out of all the news networks, CNN is the least biased of them all. For your information, they also have articles against Obama. I read both sets of them, and the one about Palin disturb me more. Just because there is not that much negative things about Obama as compared to Palin doesn't mean they are biased. If Obama had used millions of dollars for personal or useless things or had a big investigation after him, I'm sure all the news media would be covering that daily.
Why do you keep bringing up economics talk when I'm talking about things that doesn't relate to it? If you want me to read about the subject, tell me what to read and I'll do it. Just because some of us don't agree with the things you say doesn't mean we are stupid and not know about things you talk about. This discussion would be a lot more productive if you would stop assuming you're the only knowledgeable one about economics and instead go back to talking about the issues/candidates.
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Conservative critics of the media say this bias exists within a wide variety of media channels including network news shows of CBS, ABC, and NBC, cable channels CNN and MSNBC as well as major newspapers, news-wires, and radio outlets, especially CBS News, Newsweek, and the New York Times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias_in_the_United_States
Before you make statements about things that you 'know' are facts, maybe you should do a little more reading.
I read both sets of them, and the one about Palin disturb me more.
I'd agree with you on this actually.
Why do you keep bringing up economics talk when I'm talking about things that doesn't relate to it? If you want me to read about the subject, tell me what to read and I'll do it. Just because some of us don't agree with the things you say doesn't mean we are stupid and not know about things you talk about. This discussion would be a lot more productive if you would stop assuming you're the only knowledgeable one about economics and instead go back to talking about the issues/candidates.
He told you to read up on Economics and on other government policies - these are important for making a decision for a candidate. I personally think these are better then watching flashy ads.
http://books.google.com/books?as_auth=Adam+Smith
New subjectarea... . What do you guys think will be the end result?
Use this as a template: http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard;_ylt=AhgjsLqNhpEo3azNCUK68sJsnwcF
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Obama. I'm tired of seeing old, white men running the USA.
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Obama. I'm tired of seeing old, white men running the USA.
So you like black people ? 8)
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I like black people.
Back on topic. What do you guys think about McCain saying "no bailout deal, then no debate Friday." Is he afraid to go against Obama, or does he think he is desperately needed to help the situation?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/24/campaign.wrap/index.html
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I like black people.
Back on topic. What do you guys think about McCain saying "no bailout deal, then no debate Friday." Is he afraid to go against Obama, or does he think he is desperately needed to help the situation?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/24/campaign.wrap/index.html
I think he's trying to act like he's already the President by calling this temporary suspension to work on this deal. This bailout gets passed and he'll take the credit and add it a feather in his cap. He's hoping Obama won't so he can paint him as more concerned on getting elected President then helping the country. Obama's response of not agreeing and stating that a President needs to manage multiple crises is rather smart. Obama will still loose as Biden will continue to say stupid things and caste doubt on his ability to be Vice President. Although Cheany currently wears that crown.
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I'm starting to believe that Biden might be reducing the chances, but what I like about him is that he is not afraid to say what he thinks. I don't know how it will affect the campaign in the end; we'll see.
What do you guys think about how Palin is protected from the media? She doesn't speak very much to reporters nor answer their questions, and no reporters/cameras were allowed inside the room when she was meeting with world leaders. I don't like what's going on because it seems like the McCain campaign is trying to hide/protect her until when the time is necessary. So what do you guys think?
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The media seems to love Palin.
By the way, McCain has decided to debate tonight.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/26/debate.mississippi/index.html
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Here is what I don't like about politics,everybody has a favorite and it seems once they have a favorite they,for the most part,won't take/listen to any other points or facts.
They are like Mormons and jehovas witness, Jesus loves you.
Jesus doesn't exist.
Wait look at my pamphlet.
I finally told the bitch to get out of the house and started taking off my clothes.
That got rid of her.
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Palin is protected, but i can't wait for the debate tonight, mccain will probably have a stroke, but it should be a good debate.
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The debate looked pretty even. Biden vs. Palin later this week...
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politics = greedy old bastards...
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/01/controversy-surrounds-vp-debate-moderator/
The McCain campaign knew about her book months before, and even when they agreed upon her as the moderator. Now they are trying to say that she will be biased because she wrote a book including Obama. The book is about African American political leaders, not about who she supports. She is just a moderator; she asks questions that have already been written by other people, and she monitors the time. It was the McCain campaign who infact changed the rules of the debate so that each candidate gets only about 2 minutes talking time. Hmm, I wonder why they would do that for Palin.......
This just seems like the McCain campaign is trying to stall or cancel the VP debate, once again. Hey it was John's pick, I guess he is suffering/realizing the consequences now.
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I cant wait for the VP debate this weekend.
Right now we should be focusing on passing the bailouts before any of this political nonsense. I hope a bailout plan is passed within a week or so, otherwise the economy is likely to crash upon itself. If the economy isnt fixed before a president like Obama takes office, then we will ultimately be doomed.
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wow, she's not too bright is she? I will admit that i agree with her views on evolution though, that's about it.
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf=http%3A//s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/cps-vfl57293.swf&video_id=KpYQ-jb2H70&rel=1&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//i4.ytimg.com/vi/KpYQ-jb2H70/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskIUiqix7FuWV8vLLz4cFuDr&use_get_video_ info=1&load_modules=1&fs=1%22&hl=en
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Yea Wasser, I saw that video. Pretty funny, and yet sad.
She's making fun of Biden's age. LOL, look how old her partner is.
And she can't even name a single newspaper? Come on, there are tons that she could have chosen from.
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wtf??? do we have political nerds here to? you dumb blind bastards, its all about the fucking money, exploits, benefits, immunity. nothing more, nothing less...
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Every politician is a liar.
I just believe the democrats lies are better.
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Last night's debate looked like another tie.
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Sarah Palin is going rogue:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/25/palin.tension/index.html
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http://news.aol.com/article/feds-bust-skinhead-plot-to-kill-obama/227448
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They will kill him one why or a other.
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Im scared whether obama is president, Many ppl will go to kill you coz He is nigger. also I hope for him , He'll be careful. :)
It's not because of his race. It's because he's a socalist.
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It's not because of his race. It's because he's a socalist.
damn socalists.
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This probably isnt going to be the last we see of this. There have been posts on the National Socialist Movement/American Nazi Party's concerning Obama, but none so far as this.
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Obama's grandmother dies on election eve:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/03/obama.grandma/index.html
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Obama's grandmother dies on election eve:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/03/obama.grandma/index.html
He killed her for sympathy votes......wha t a pussy.
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He killed her for sympathy votes......wha t a pussy.
So lets see what he dose, will family really matter that much now, I would bet not.
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If these perjections are correct, you better save up for higher taxes. ;)
Paying taxes is patriotic.
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and if you don't like paying them your "selfish".....
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If these perjections are correct, you better save up for higher taxes. ;)
Paying taxes is patriotic.
I don't make 250,000 dollars a year, so i don't need to worry about higher taxes. Anyone who makes a quarter of a million each year and bitches about a tax increase has got to be one hell of a penny pincher.
And what are you people complaining about higher taxes for? How the hell else do you plan on paying off a 10 trillion dollar deficit that your "great" president threw us in? Ya, go bush. What a hero.
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I don't make 250,000 dollars a year, so i don't need to worry about higher taxes. Anyone who makes a quarter of a million each year and bitches about a tax increase has got to be one hell of a penny pincher.
And what are you people complaining about higher taxes for? How the hell else do you plan on paying off a 10 trillion dollar deficit that your "great" president threw us in? Ya, go bush. What a hero.
Wow, this is an easy one to disagree with.....
If you want to base your sources on the media, then you should have obviously watched a little closer. Obama already changed his plan to now include anyone making 150,000 a year, but seems to left that out of the campaigns. I wonder how it will change soon.
The fact of the matter is you are being lied to, sir. There is no way in hell we could even attempt to pay off any of the national debt with a proposed 1 trillion dollar spending plan, proposed by Obama, in one year! Simple economics shows you that when you increase government spending, you will need to also increase taxes...... Now if you lower taxes to 90% of Americans, that money needs to come out of thin air. (or from the national debt)
Case proven.
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I don't make 250,000 dollars a year, so i don't need to worry about higher taxes. Anyone who makes a quarter of a million each year and bitches about a tax increase has got to be one hell of a penny pincher.
And what are you people complaining about higher taxes for? How the hell else do you plan on paying off a 10 trillion dollar deficit that your "great" president threw us in? Ya, go bush. What a hero.
Wow! Ok, I don't really agree with this statement "Anyone who makes a quarter of a million each year and bitches about a tax increase has got to be one hell of a penny pincher". They work hard for their money as well, and why shouldn't they be upset about paying higher taxes then someone who doesn't make that much. Apparently they did something right in their life to have a job that pays that much. Why should they get higher taxes because they went to school, got an education and have climbed whatever ladder they had to, to get paid like that? So you are saying you would act like Robin Hood? Steal from the rich to pay off our nations debt? Why, the wealthy people didn't create this debt, so why should they be punished? I think if they raise anyone's taxes, it should be all those fucks in the any type of Government postion. They are the ones who voted on the bills to pass, and should have to suck up the consequences. Why should the American tax payer do it. I understand we elected them into their postion, but why should we have to foot the bill, especially wealthy people. I think it should be equal across the board if they raise taxes. I don't make that much money on any account. However, why punish the rich, and just the rich??
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The wealthiest taxpayers pay the most tax..its a fact. The wealthiest taxpayers own businesses, own property, take risks, pay higher malpractice insurance, take risks, write your paycheck, take risks..get my point? Are you willing to take an extra risk to make more money? Of course you will..because there is a reward for your efforts. Are you willing to take risks for less money? Heck no, you'd be a fool to waste your time doing so. So, next time you ask for a raise from your boss..consider the risk he/she is taking in providing you employment...a nd consider if he decides to NOT take a risk then you will not get the raise; you may even lose your job. It isnt very wise to bite the hand that feeds you, so if you take away the incentives for profit you will see wide spread job losses and a deep economic crisis like never before. BTW..in regard to tax cut for middle class: Maybe you havent heard of the Health Care Tax that NOBAMA has suggested. It will be a payroll tax similar to Medicare and Social Security. He suggests this tax will "change" healthcare problems in US. And, in case you are unaware...he is going to establish a security police. (see also Nazi Germany). Get your swastikas ready folks...its coming.
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And, in case you are unaware...he is going to establish a security police. (see also Nazi Germany). Get your swastikas ready folks...its coming.
Vive la revolution against America??? or Obama???
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And, in case you are unaware...he is going to establish a security police. (see also Nazi Germany). Get your swastikas ready folks...its coming.
Actually there is a Third Political Party in the U.S. called the National Socialist Movement aka American Nazi Party. Some of their values are pretty decent, but most are highly socialistic.
nObama '08
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The wealthiest taxpayers pay the most tax..its a fact. The wealthiest taxpayers own businesses, own property, take risks, pay higher malpractice insurance, take risks, write your paycheck, take risks..get my point? Are you willing to take an extra risk to make more money? Of course you will..because there is a reward for your efforts. Are you willing to take risks for less money? Heck no, you'd be a fool to waste your time doing so. So, next time you ask for a raise from your boss..consider the risk he/she is taking in providing you employment...a nd consider if he decides to NOT take a risk then you will not get the raise; you may even lose your job. It isnt very wise to bite the hand that feeds you, so if you take away the incentives for profit you will see wide spread job losses and a deep economic crisis like never before. BTW..in regard to tax cut for middle class: Maybe you havent heard of the Health Care Tax that NOBAMA has suggested. It will be a payroll tax similar to Medicare and Social Security. He suggests this tax will "change" healthcare problems in US. And, in case you are unaware...he is going to establish a security police. (see also Nazi Germany). Get your swastikas ready folks...its coming.
Can I have a raise!!!
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I think the tax difference is only 3% more If you earn over 250,000. But whats funny is you'll end up earning more If you make 249,000 than you will If you make 251,000. Either way 36% or 39% tax seems like alot to pay from an outsiders perspective.
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Who heard that obama grandma vote counts. She dead she can't vote.
Since Obama allowed I think I should use my dog name to vote and then my cats and my fish and my dead great great great great great uncle.
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There's no evidence that Obama is even a citizen. And they can't show any proof of it either.
If Obama becomes president I will sit at home the rest of my life living off welfare.
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coolio
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There's no evidence that Obama is even a citizen. And they can't show any proof of it either.
Errr Thats not really the best argument to make. Obama was born in Hawaii which is an American state where as Mccain was born on the Panama canal zone which isn't. Technically Obamas therefore more of a US citizen than McCain ha ha.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
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If Obama becomes president I will sit at home the rest of my life living off welfare.
Ummm....ok.... ..
True that Dune.
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lol u gona have a nigger in the white house O0 and then hes gona feed u all bananas,
may god be with u all ;D
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lol u gona have a nigger in the white house O0 and then hes gona feed u all bananas,
may god be with u all ;D
Some deep south redneck will shoot him
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Citizenship is not an issue. If you Mother is an American, you are as well. Regardless of where you are born. (see also Missionaries all over the world). Even if he was born in Kenya he is an american because his mom was an american. Also, McCain was born on a US Military installation in a US Military hospital. And, his parents were americans. It is a waste of energy to focus on using this arguement to discount either candidate.
NOBAMA!!!
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I just came back from voting.
Prop 8 = Yes!
And I voted for "that one."
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Citizenship is not an issue. If you Mother is an American, you are as well. Regardless of where you are born. (see also Missionaries all over the world). Even if he was born in Kenya he is an american because his mom was an american. Also, McCain was born on a US Military installation in a US Military hospital. And, his parents were americans. It is a waste of energy to focus on using this arguement to discount either candidate.
NOBAMA!!!
It specifically says in the U.S Constitution that the president must be born in the United States, that is what this argument is about. The Framers were very vague on most things, but this is one point that they were not. Please dont try to argue what is specificaly said within the U.S. Constitution. As for Military Camps, they are considered U.S. property.
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I have cast my first vote yay.
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Citizenship is not an issue. If you Mother is an American, you are as well. Regardless of where you are born. (see also Missionaries all over the world). Even if he was born in Kenya he is an american because his mom was an american. Also, McCain was born on a US Military installation in a US Military hospital. And, his parents were americans. It is a waste of energy to focus on using this arguement to discount either candidate.
NOBAMA!!!
Mcain is too old dude for usa, But Obama is noob too lol..
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Mcain is too old dude for usa, But Obama is noob too lol..
Are you kidding? You all have bigger problems over there, so just stay out of USA shit... We wont don't cover your ass "AGAIN" in the next big war, you all are on your own now... I think your country is going to have the title "A Federal Republic of Nigeria", good luck Skip you are going to need it this time more then ever.
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I think if they raise anyone's taxes, it should be all those fucks in the any type of Government postion. They are the ones who voted on the bills to pass, and should have to suck up the consequences. Why should the American tax payer do it.
You do realize they are also taxpayers, right?
Roshan, did you really vote yes on 8? Since you're one of the smarter people here I figured you'd vote no on it. Oh well.
Funny thing is kraut, no one cares what you'll do when Obama wins. McCain will die soon anyway, so for those who make the argument "what if obama gets assassinated?" did you ever think who would take their places? Obama would be replaced with a 35 year experience congressman, mccain would be replaced with a globally retarded soccer bitch.
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GOBAMA
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You do realize they are also taxpayers, right?
Yes I do.
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GOBAMA
Hell ya! Guess me and the migrant worker Chris are the only ones voting for him, oh well it's better than extending "Bush's 3rd term."
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Roshan, did you really vote yes on 8?
Yes I did. I based my decision off of my culture, in which same-sex marriage is unheard of. Hinduism is the oldest religion, and I have learned a lot from it. This is pretty much the simplest explanation I can give.
Hell ya! Guess me and the migrant worker Chris are the only ones voting for him
And me.
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I now get to watch the train wreck of obamas first term take place.
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Ummm....ok......
True that Dune.
What you talking about roshan?
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http://elections.co.kern.ca.us/Elections/results/NOV08/default.htm
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Ok here is how it is going to work, we are going to place bets for how long until Obama is shot. You can send your money via paypal to beatlejuice'S paypal with your amount and date you think he will be shot (or month)
Rules,you must give at least 20 into the pool in order to qualify.
My bet is 6 months after he is sworn in.
LET THE BETTING BEGIN!
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til his next speech $100000000000000000000000000000
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Oh stop complaining everybody. I'm happy for any change rather than more of the same. And look what happened as a result of his victory. I can tell you that it wouldn't have happened had McCain been the winner.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/04/markets/election_reaction/index.htm
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I'll bet $5 that Maggot won't graduate from high school.
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Yes I did. I based my decision off of my culture, in which same-sex marriage is unheard of. Hinduism is the oldest religion, and I have learned a lot from it. This is pretty much the simplest explanation I can give.
And me.
Oh, i was under the impression that you suddenly thought mccain was the better vote. Nevermind then. Oh well, glad obama won. Just glad Palin doesn't have a chance to run the country.
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I bet it could be me :D fucking COONS!!!
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Well, Obama can talk the talk but we will see if he can walk the walk.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k261WgSLtGrwDNPuQV
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k4jB3NVzaemjoCPuuq
I Can say, 44 th Presdient of america. And He is a first president who is black. So Marth Luther King will be happy to see it. But Bush give a fucking place to Obama,. Good Luck .We'll see if He can change the usa.
(http://usa2008.20minutes.fr/images/2008/11/04/prix_la_pome_2.jpg)
(http://usa2008.20minutes.fr/images/2008/11/04/no_on_prop_8.jpg)
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Oh stop complaining everybody. I'm happy for any change rather than more of the same. And look what happened as a result of his victory.
LOL! Change......no t sure if you knew it or not but it seems just about every president has promised change in order to get elected. Hell, Even look back 8 years....who was the candidate that it seems EVERYONE was voting for....go ahead and guess, i will wait. Thats right and look where we are now..hahahahah ha i said it would be smart to vote for the weather man and everyone laughed at me! so fuck you everyone!
and the thing that happened after prolly would have happened if McCain was elected as well....but with alot less niggers there. Oh well, Can't wait to see what ''American rifleman'' magazine has to say next issue ::)......gonna be alot of pissed off white folk!
have the last issue in my hand and guess who is on the cover.......HA HHAHAHA
I was actually at a bowling alley last night when the result were read, and i was next to a lane with about 8 big,dramatic niggers. the read the results and the fat woman nigger, (im assuming the alpha fe-male) collapsed on the floor and cried for 15 minutes where another yelled in a low deep voice "can i get a oooooooooooooo oobaaaaaaaammm maaaaaaa!!11!@#!1one!" I yelled "LETS GO MCCAIN!" and everyone looked at me....i have never felt so white.
bahhhh said the sheep....then out came the wolves.
(http://usa2008.20minutes.fr/images/2008/11/04/prix_la_pome_2.jpg)
I would suck off a goat for gas at 2.69
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i have never felt so white.
bahhhh said the sheep....then out came the wolves.
That's fucking funny, your a brave man maggot.
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So long America... It has been fun.
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Lets hope within the first couple weeks, then he couldn't possibly fuck over our economy even more than it already is.
Nigga PLEASE! It's called the WHITE House!
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So long America... It has been fun.
Agree with you.
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McCain kinda let himself down. No offence but A 72 year old man that won't shake hands with his oponent, sticks out his tong like a kid and bases his whole public campaign on demeaning his oponent just seems childish. Plus he referred to Obama as "this one" like a thing, but certainly a derrogatory term in a public arena which just shouldn't be done if you want to earn the respect of the public as presidential material.
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McCain kinda let himself down. No offence but A 72 year old man that won't shake hands with his oponent, sticks out his tong like a kid and bases his whole public campaign on demeaning his oponent just seems childish. Plus he referred to Obama as "this one" like a thing, but certainly a derrogatory term in a public arena which just shouldn't be done if you want to earn the respect of the public as presidential material.
Did you hear the speech that McCain gave last night? If not, you should, then you will change your mind about what you just said.
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McCain kinda let himself down. No offence but A 72 year old man that won't shake hands with his oponent, sticks out his tong like a kid and bases his whole public campaign on demeaning his oponent just seems childish. Plus he referred to Obama as "this one" like a thing, but certainly a derrogatory term in a public arena which just shouldn't be done if you want to earn the respect of the public as presidential material.
Or the liberal media let him down. Bullshit all news and lies, if people knew the truth McCain would have been giving that acceptance speech last night.
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Wow. Evidently other countries were very very happy with the out come of the election.
"Barack Obama's election as America's first black president unleashed a renewed love for the United States after years of dwindling goodwill, and many said Wednesday that U.S. voters had blazed a trail that minorities elsewhere could follow."
Some places in Africa stayed up to watch our election and Kenya has made today a public holiday. Indonesia was especially thrilled since Obama use to live there as a child.
"Many expressed amazement and satisfaction that the United States could overcome centuries of racial strife and elect an African-American as president." (Info from Yahoo news)
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If McCain had talked like he had last night, he would have had a good chance. He should have talked like that in all speeches in the past, cuz last night's was something good. But oh well, he just screwed himself over.
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Agree with you.
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you say in many posts, that you wanted that nigger Obama to win???
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(http://i33.tinypic.com/zx6yi8.jpg)
That's funny no matter which side you are on.
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Rofl Balthy.
That is great.
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If McCain had talked like he had last night, he would have had a good chance. He should have talked like that in all speeches in the past, cuz last night's was something good. But oh well, he just screwed himself over.
Yup .... but no matter how you look at it ,
Obama's a hell of alot better dancer than McCain !!!
(http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/5152/dancingwiththestarslq5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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Yup .... but no matter how you look at it ,
Obama's a hell of alot better dancer than McCain !!!
(http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/5152/dancingwiththestarslq5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
we know.
http://www.mafiaowns.com/index.php/topic,10769.msg104151.html#msg104151
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we know.
http://www.mafiaowns.com/index.php/topic,10769.msg104151.html#msg104151
Dammmmm ...... i've been noob-benaded again !!!
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So we are posting pics about Mr. Obama?
Ok.
(http://scottthong.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/obamaphone.jpg)
This one is for TheCp. He knows why. ;D
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So we are posting pics about Mr. Obama?
Ok.
(http://scottthong.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/obamaphone.jpg)
This one is for TheCp. He knows why. ;D
Cause the phone is upside down???
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Hell ..... i did'nt know he was Gay ??
So we are posting pics about Mr. Obama?
Ok.
(http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7751/barackobama2xn4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://scottthong.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/obamaphone.jpg)
This one is for TheCp. He knows why. ;D
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I would suck off a goat for gas at 2.69
Gas was $2.29 in the mountains of virginia 2 weeks before halloween.
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Nigga PLEASE! It's called the WHITE House!
Rofl
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Gas was $2.29 in the mountains of virginia 2 weeks before halloween.
$2.19 here where I live. $1.96 in Minneapolis, MN.
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don't ever say that again here...
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/05/world.reaction/index.html
See, it's not just me.
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don't ever say that again here...
Who are you talking too??
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Who are you talking too??
Me...Let's just say i forgot my thinking cap yesterday.
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Me...Let's just say i forgot my thinking cap yesterday.
Only yesterday?
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that shit stick of a nigger noob...Obama Bin -Laden haha nigger fuck em
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gas is $1.89 here... i never thought it would go below $3.00 again. damn the us is really crashing...
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gas is $1.89 here... i never thought it would go below $3.00 again. damn the us is really crashing...
i expected it to dip right before the elections to give the "we are all fine and dandy, no oil crisis here" feeling to kind of lul people into believing that bullshit.
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Its all a part of the oil companies to build up our dependence again. If we dont solve the problems that we have right now, I believe that it will rise back up in the future.
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Our government has just had to lower gas prices to try and ecourage people to buy gas in Britain to boost the economy because believe it or not If your a truck driver its actually cheaper to sail over to the continent and back and gas-up in France, Holland or Spain. Its a stupid situation the govenment has brought upon itself that the national economy is now shrinking rapidly because people just are not prepared to buy stuff from Britain anymore because its so overly taxed so they go abroad or pay other nations to deliver it to us. Petrolium, alcohol and tobacco are all around half price in France so the mark-up for taking a truck just through the channel tunnel, filling up with goodies and coming back to re-sell is astronomical.
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http://www.howobamagotelected.com
http://www.howobamagotelected.com
http://www.howobamagotelected.com
http://www.howobamagotelected.com
interesting...
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Hmm..That is pretty interesting. I mean it is quite obvious that most people who voted for Obama did so because he was African American, not because of his policies or politcal views.
Appreciate the share.
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I mean it is quite obvious that most people who voted for Obama did so because he was African American, not because of his policies or politcal views.
I don't think it is quite obvious that "most" people who voted for Obama did so because he's black. I know plenty of people who voted for him because of his policies vs. John McCain's. I agree, there are people who voted for him because he's black, but I wouldn't say most.
I also think that many people did NOT vote for John McCain because of Sarah Palin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E
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Well, sorry you are right. Not most, but quite a few did.
Thanks for the correction.
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http://www.howobamagotelected.com
http://www.howobamagotelected.com
http://www.howobamagotelected.com
http://www.howobamagotelected.com
interesting...
Are you kidding me? They interviewed 12 people and asked them trivia questions. How the hell does that explain why obama got elected? If they were in a math class and they did a study/survey with only 12 people, they would fail.
This website is a joke, come on masebot.
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http://www.howobamagotelected.com
http://www.howobamagotelected.com
http://www.howobamagotelected.com
http://www.howobamagotelected.com
interesting...
If they asked 12 random McCain voters the same stuff I bet they'd get a similar response. But they didn't so the interviews worthless.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/24/obama-offers-different-responses-racially-charged-controversies/
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The officer shouldn't be punished. He was just following what every smart officer will do when someone is being aggressive.
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The officer shouldn't be punished. He was just following what every smart officer will do when someone is being aggressive.
+1
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lol, cops do single out blacks tho
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lol, cops do single out blacks tho
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It has nothing to do with the fact this jackass was black, he was being belligerent and aggressive. He should have done what the fuck he was told to do.
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James Crowley also tried to revive Reggie Lewis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Lewis).
"Two days later, Obama stated that he regretted that his comments exacerbated the situation, and hoped that the situation could become a "teachable moment". He also gave his opinion that both the officer and Gates "overreacted" to the situation, and that he planned on the three of them "having a beer" to discuss the situation at the White House."
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It has nothing to do with the fact this jackass was black, he was being belligerent and aggressive. He should have done what the fuck he was told to do.
I don't mean in this specific situation, I mean in general they target black people. Which is true.
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Excellent Item (http://www.chiaobama.com)
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(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9643/yigq4.gif)
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QUICK, use "Change we can believe in speech!"
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it showed up for me now. funny lol.
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/30/harvard.arrest.beers/index.html
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/POLITICS/07/30/harvard.arrest.beers/t1home.beer.summit.wh.jpg)
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/POLITICS/07/30/harvard.arrest.beers/t1home.beer.summit.02.afp.gi.jpg)
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MOTHER FUCKIN YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!![/size]
Some boring ass crap right here. You suck.