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Run along, tired fawn.  Run home to the river's bank and take a nap next to mother, under the willow.

By the way, Moose of Doom:  No offense, but because I don't actually care about anything you say, I don't really take this argument too seriously.  So, I hope you don't take it seriously either.  I'm the type of debater who much prefers the hunt over the kill; so, win, lose or draw, it's just a stupid argument for the sake of arguing (as far as I'm concerned).  So, carry on - but not in this fashion.  (I'm bored of it.)

Wow, so he runs away...What, can't find any other creative way of expressing support for degenerates? Don't give me that B.S. about being too noble to continue to engage me in a verbal sparring match. The fact is, is that I exposed what it is that Mafia is all about...plain and simple: Prepackaged wins, and the prison guards who win them. Any attempt to derail this fact....falls on it's face.

As I foretold...I won.

I walked in, I verbally kicked you in the nuts, slapped your face, and screwed your girlfriend, and in your own forum.
What happened exactly, for this to occur?

I will explain.

Prison Guards don't like having their personality disorders exposed to the public. Their only means for personal gratification is to control their environment, hence through excessive abuse of admin powers(Insane, Pro Helo Monkey, Titties, for example), or deletion of threads/posts(what Insane threatened to do)...and you really can't control a public forum....The prison guards here can't filter out what I say, or they basically confirm everything that I have said. A sort of indefeatable moebius loop....

First, you're right; I did admit to delighting in the easy path to victory.  I do use hacks in lieu of exhibiting skill.  Why?  Because I can, I want to, and I don't give a FUCK about whether or not you approve of it.  However, I did not admit to "not having" skills.  After all, does a carpenter who uses a power tool not have the ability to turn a screwdriver?  Perhaps, but you could not know simply by watching him use a powertool.  Don't let your anger stifle your capacity for rational thought.

Second, the bicycle analogy was not only NOT a diversion, but it took your windy, jittery train and put it on a smooth, straight track - the opposite of diversion.  

Third, I can't help but mention I study psychology.  By no stretch of the imagination do I know what it's all about, but I know enough to know you are spouting presumptions rather than fact or supported theory.  There are very few absolutes in psychology, so to blanketedly stating that ALL actions in cyberspace transcend into real life is just silly - and that, sir, is why I know your rants hold no water.  Although I have to admit I am a little hazy on what you mean by the rigidity of the server.  You seem to imply there are many rules, constraints and various other forms controling your impulses or desires.  If you do imply that, you're really wasting my time.  I can't be having arguments with people who don't think things through before they say them.  I came here to say something, and I said it.  As far as I see it, I can sit here and poke holes in your derailed diatribe all day, but I'd rather not.  But if you need a lesson in logic and coherence, I'm your go-to guy.

Thanks, so much.

First of all, I could really give a load of Dingo's Kidneys about what you think of me, and whether or not I "approve" of your tactics. You admitted you have no skill, great, at least you were being honest.....Som ething the rest of the Mafia clan could learn from.

What is this, by the way?
 "After all, does a carpenter who uses a power tool not have the ability to turn a screwdriver?  Perhaps, but you could not know simply by watching him use a powertool. Perhaps, but you could not know simply by watching him use a powertool"...........
Carpentry and video games? Yeah, those two go together, kind of like Mafia and Punkbuster.... oil and water....tooth paste and steak sauce. My assessment is this: A carpenter uses power tools to save time and effort. In addition, since I am in the repair business, and use BOTH kinds of tools on a daily basis...I only get precision out of a screwdriver..a nd use the power tools to get out of doing hard work. Quit trying to attach pointless metaphors to this, as you guys die just as easily as any noob out there when you get away from your hack/Secret Area cocoons...and also, quit trying to assume that I am angry. I am actually rationally laughing my ass off watching you come up with new and inventive ways of supporting degenerates. This is the reason why I got out of psychology...n o one really wants to call a spade a spade, but instead spends hours trying to come up with creative ways to describe their support for said degenerates.

And this?
"Third, I can't help but mention I study psychology.  By no stretch of the imagination do I know what it's all about, but I know enough to know you are spouting presumptions rather than fact or supported theory.  There are very few absolutes in psychology, so to blanketedly stating that ALL actions in cyberspace transcend into real life is just silly - and that, sir, is why I know your rants hold no water."

I didn't say that ALL actions in cyberspace transcend into real life. Looks like Elliott the Chump is making more Grade-AAA ASSumptions. Step away from the liberally-enlightened GENERAL PSYCHOLOGY textbook kool-aide for 20 minutes, and spend some time doing actual research on criminal behavior.....s omething you are not going to find in your required General Psych classes at your local community college. What you SAY, SAYS alot  about your character, and personality traits...espec ially when you exhibit the same behavior....re peatedly....ma p after map....

Yes, apparently, you are finished. What you essentially have accomplished, in such a long-winded manner, is this: You have told us the following...
1. You don't care who you play with, even if some of them act like greaseball child molestors...ju st don't interfere with your play time
2.  In order to remain a member of Mafia's elite "club", one must ignore obviously glaring personality disorders of the admins
3. Mafia servers are pre-packaged wins for those same admins..and cannot tolerate losing...even if it means abuse of admin priviledges


Y'all come back now, y'hear?

LOL go to this post Insane... Evil Moose of Doom is a DOA Member.

Just think I could find out what we need soon Insane, I am sure you know what I am talking about. Man I feel like a old women with to much time on HER hands.


With that said... Beetle I would think you could had seen...

[DOA] Pirate
[DOA] PIRATE
[DOA] Evil Barney 007
[DOA] EvilBarney 007

...kicked from the server and not the name I gave at the start of this thread. I have more if you want them, but I think the DOA names are the funning part of this.

What exactly is supposed to be funny? That I didn't spend 7 months begging and groveling to join Mafia? Well, consider it funny, then.

here u Evil crying cause mafia owned u and ur there servant. now bow down to them your new masters. I will own you on BF1942. Hay evil I no human I am a wolf.

Well, I do admit that you have the bumbling typing style of a wolf trying to peck away at a keyboard...and that you smell like a wolf....

Could you go away, please? You are disrupting an engaging conversation between two educated individuals, and your butchered grammar is sounding far more illiterate that what might be accepted as normal in this place...

First of all, please spare me the ass-kissing, and don't say I use lofty words.  Lofty to you may not be lofty to me, and so you are admitting inferiority.  Then again, I do like these forfeitures (you're the king).

Secondly, look.  Your analogy of the prison guards is m'okay, but it's not really that good.  A better way to describe our server is like a bicycle race.  We, Mafians, have bicycles, and you non-Mafians have bicycles.  Ours have motors.  Yours are man-powered.  At the moment.  See, you can go out and buy a motor and race us on a level playing field, but you choose to enter a race you cannot win.  In other words, we are not playing battlefield in an unethical way, just an unorthodox way - a different way.  We are racing motorbikes, not chain-geared bikes.  Do you want to race with us?  If so, get a motor.  Get the public hacks.  Glitch into a wall.  The gun goes off at the same time for us as for you, so beat us to the destination by all attainable means.  Or go race the foot-pedalers.  Or fuck off.

Thirdly, it's perfectly human to enjoy winning.  It's human to want to win, and it's perfectly human to not regret doing so.  However, I know what you're saying.  Using a pistol in a boxing match might guarantee a win, but it sure seems sleazy.  But you're making an assumption.  You assume we care to win fairly.  We don't.  Does that make us sleazy?  Perhaps.  But our demeanor in a computer game environment you should not assume reflects our demeanor in any other realm.  However, despite my request that you give us this benefit of the doubt, you don't have to.  I cannot defend my clan-mates.  I can defend myself.  I am not sleazy.  I go to a good school; I work hard; I was class president; I volunteer by teaching 3rd graders to read and do mathematics; etc.  Now, one thing I do to relax is play computer games.  I don't do it too often, just as you don't, but I do it enough to call it a "hobby."  I go to a school which assigns a workload that ranks #10 in the nation.  When I pursue a hobby, or if I am enjoying "down time," I don't want stress.  I don't want to lose.  So, I cheat.  I ensure that I win and that I have a good time.  You can crucify me or berate me for this, but I'd rather you let me peacefully go about my business.

p.s. If you think you have any rebuttal of value, you're mistaken.  To follow your impulse is to waste your time...and potentially mine/ours.  Do us a favor:  Instead of working hard to convince us we are depraved per A) our actions or B) the insipid environment you say we create, make a simple choice.  A) Play with us; or B) Play without us.  S-I-M-P-L-E.

Wow, that was quite possibly the most stirring pile of poop I have read in quite some time.
First of all, I really don't care what you do in your spare time. I only mentioned it to show that I don't have a personal stake in your stupidity.
Next, to assume I don't have a rebuttal of value? You just shot yourself in the foot, and basically (in a wannabe liberally enlightened way) admitted you don't have the game-playing skills to compete in a NORMAL BF envrionment. You also state that you enjoy the pre-packaged wins that the Mafia server gives you, since you are too busy with your 'enlightened' social life to learn how to play without hacks...once again confirming what I said, that you have ZERO skills to play without the Howdy Doody bullshit.
Bicycle analogies? Wow, how primitive, and how diverting. I gave you a basic summary of why Mafia is in existence...an d you again confirm it. You ARE sleazy. That WAS confirmed. You guys DO behave like prison guards. And try as you might to state that one's behavior on the gaming battlefield does not transcend into real life? You are quite possibly the biggest enlightened idiot I have ever met, if you don't believe that. Pro Monkey, titties, and Insane, by your unqualified estimation, are pillars of the community away from your server? RIGHT. That psychologicall y holds  about as much water as a spaghetti strainer, Elliott. Actually, in the psychological world, one's behavior in such a setting as a "rigged" game server is quite valuable in assessing one's off-screen behavior...wha t you say has a strong background in defining the kind of character you possess. You have players giggling like child molestors when they kill from rigged perches.....Go spend some time watching films of prison guards doing various psychological testing....and how they giggle when someone is being hurt...and then get back to me. Your continued justification for your involvement with these losers falls more and more into question....

SO, are we fighting now in both the spam AND Flame rooms?

Please.  Don't try to psychoanalyze us, you pretentious malcontent.  Whatever it is that is irking you, get over it.  You get pissed off at a computer game?  Trust me dude, we're not the problem.  If we've robbed you of some sort of satisfaction that you get out of a computer game, the satisfaction you can find in no other facet of life we can't influence, then you, buddy, are the one with a problem.  I'm sorry your parents are never around, and I'm sorry your friends abandoned you.  If I knew you, I'd maybe help you out.  But I don't.  So don't come in here blathering about the state of things, ignoring how obvious it is that yours is the train wreck, not ours.  

God I rule.  I can't stop being awesome.  One day I will though.  I'll have to, right?

(Rubbing hands gleefully....)Well, hello, Elliott.
Amazing who will pick up the gaunlet, once it is thrown down...

Quite a display of big words, there, sir. First of all, the only thing that is "irking" me, initially,  is watching immature people with prison guard behavior scream out the word "ownage" while hiding behind invisible force fields....and then abusing admin powers (just like prison guards do) if someone displays even the slightest bit of skill. If you can't play without the force fields, perches, radar, or indestructible planes, then shut the fuck up. If you also can't handle someone else killing you, then shut the fuck up. Immediately following that "irkage" is idiots like yourself who lack any sense of self-identity, and join up with the loser socioeconomic group displayed during my telling of "Irkage" #1. The only reason I 'joined' a clan, was to have a little easier access to the dwindling number of BF servers...so I don't have to sit there and stroll through dozens of empty BF servers on Quickmatch. I can head straight there first, and if it's empty, then I can go looking. I don't give a tinker's damn about the politics, the Top Secret Howdy Doody Decoder Ring patches, or the self-absorbed egos that follow most clans...such as Mafia. Your pointless self-absorption knows no bounds.

Satisfaction denied? Nah, I really don't give a shit, Smelliott. I can just load up another game, go ride one of my motorcycles, drive one of my cars...or take my kids to a movie. I hardly play BF nowadays...I have only shown up on the Mafia server recently, to follow a fellow clan member in. That's pretty much it. However, I don't care about the glitches, or cheats....it's the people, the attitudes. Fine, set up your super secret death perches. I could really give a shit. But don't sit there and run your mouth as if you actually have SKILL, and then try to threaten people if they happen to kill you back. Once again, following the mental disciplines of Prison Guards. Harass  and attack the inmates from behind "safe" walls, where the inmates can't attack them back, your admins giggling like child molestors. It's pretty fucking sick, actually.

And you support these greaseballs?

While this is quite amusing, please continue it in this thread.

CLOSED

Wow, look at that...a mafia member changing the rules because he is getting owned...where have I seen that before?

Yeah I recognize ButtSlappingPi rate.  I know the reason he got kicked now, it is because he's gay.

Woo-Hoo! And here comes the lowest-common denominator strike of the evening!!!

Really, please get some new material. I think the word GAY has only been used about 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times in as many attempts at a weak comeback.

LOL I think that day is soon to come. See with Moose he loves using the BIG smarty guy words as well. So when he sees your post I think you and him are going to have a bit of fun.

I can't wait to see who comes out the winner of this one.

The outcome is already predetermined. I won the moment I got banned (again, lol) from the Mafia server...kind of like watching the first three Star Wars Episodes...we already know what happens to the Jedi....what you are seeing is simply how I won.

ya i agree with you d. i mean that is along post up there. i mean if i was getting owned by mafia guys i would either try really hard to get them or i woudl not come into the server. but then again that is me.

The key word is "try".
What you may have noticed, is that Mafia does not allow for "trying", hence the secret patches, perches, blah blah blah. Just like a prison guard to force control of his own environment... ..if this was only about who had what skill or talent, we wouldn't be talking. What are Mafia servers really about? An easy win...for Mafia players......k ind of like marrying pregnant women, isn't it? They don't, or can't expend the effort to try to get big kill counts/get the woman pregnant, so you instead marry a pregnant woman, or create a server where the mafia guys always win. Pretty ingenious, actually. You can then claim better rankings, better bragging rights, etc...what you guys are pissed off about, is that I simply brought all of this to the surface. It's not about cheating to win, it's all about creating an environment where there is simply no chance of a non-mafia member to win. This is why Mafia admins get so pissed off when someone kills them.

Next victim....