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[*MAFIA* Beatlejuice]

Is anybody going to back up ICEMAN, it seems most of you like George Bush and support the war over there.  I think its good that we back our president and his decision, but I also think its ok to disagree at times as long as we are civilized and just with it.  Anyway, like I said I don't really have a say on this, but it seems like its everyone vs. him.  

As far as Election 2008 goes, the top Democratic nominee is Hillary Clinton, followed by John Edwards, John Kerry, and Al Gore.  The Republican nominees are Condoleezza Rice, John McCain, and Rudy Giuliani.  I know I'm missing a few key names so help me out please.  Here are some links if you're interested:

(I just googled "Election 2008")
http://www.pollingreport.com/2008.htm
http://election2008.tom-hanna.org/
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/Election%202008--Kerry,%20Clinton,%20Rice.htm
http://thedemocraticagenda.blogspot.com/2005/01/election-2008-republican-presidential.html

The topic of this is terrorism, anyone have any more pics or links or whatever?

[ThaSnyper]

Id vote for John McCain any day of the week. He has been though so much, and Im sure has the most understanding of any of them. Hes not afraid to go on shows like the Daily Show. He just says it the way it is. We need someone as president with some balls. I think he has a huge set. Rudy would be good too I think.

[ICEMAN]

Is anybody going to back up ICEMAN, it seems most of you like George Bush and support the war over there.  I think its good that we back our president and his decision, but I also think its ok to disagree at times as long as we are civilized and just with it.  Anyway, like I said I don't really have a say on this, but it seems like its everyone vs. him.  

Yeah, I kind of expected that.  I quit simply because I thoroughly responed and read every bit of information that some people put out, quoted, and answered questions, but from the replies I got back, nobody read what I had to say.  I must have answered the same questions multiple times in there.  As I've said the whole time, many people on here only take into account one-side.  Not reading what I post and sticking to your own is... one-sided just to let you all know.  I read your side, I got your argument.

As far as the 2008 elections go, I'm really pushing for a Democratic candidate.

[ThaSnyper]

I still love you Icepoo. The reason why I didnt reply to yours is becuase Ive heard that side already before. Id already looked into it but there is just too much supporting evidence for the other. Im not talking just from a political stance either. Im talking from a economic and socioeconomic stance as well. Just too many items in your theory don't add up.

[Swifty]

John McCain and Rudy Giuliani, hmm I could'nt choose.  Probably McCain because I dont think hes as much of a religious nutjob as some republicans are.  Thats the only point I dont share with republicans is the massive focus on religion.  Wheres the libertarian nominee?

[ICEMAN]

I still love you Icepoo. The reason why I didnt reply to yours is becuase Ive heard that side already before. Id already looked into it but there is just too much supporting evidence for the other. Im not talking just from a political stance either. Im talking from a economic and socioeconomic stance as well. Just too many items in your theory don't add up.

Same to you.  I've heard your stance time and time again when I invade republican forums, or just engage in a debate with someone who believes what you do.  Does that mean that I'm still not going to read, listen, and reply to what you say?

I should have just said from the get-go, I've heard your argument time and time again before, so I'm not going to read what you write.   That way I wouldn't have wasted quite a bit of time writing out responses.

My side doesn't add up?  I believe it does... the inconsistencie s in the side your taking are blatently obvious.  If you go as general as the WTT were the economic center... then of course your side will make perfect sense.


Love you too Snyper:)

[*MAFIA* Wasserfaller]

John McCain and Rudy Giuliani, hmm I could'nt choose.  Probably McCain because I dont think hes as much of a religious nutjob as some republicans are.  Thats the only point I dont share with republicans is the massive focus on religion.  Wheres the libertarian nominee?

I agree, there's nothing wrong with religion, but the republicans are able to bring it into every little thing they talk about. It's also annoying when they say stupid things like God hates gays because they're different. Another dumb thing that the religious nutjob said was to assasinate a south-american pres. because he doesn't like the guy. They annoy me.

[ICEMAN]

Anyone care for a religious debate?


I'll take the side of athiesm.  It doesn't even need to be about wether you believe in god or not, but more or so the fact of the affect of religion.

[Elliott Smith]

lol their mindset is why bother working if the people are actually dumb enough to give them money... if you look at a average on how much a bum in new york makes weekly its a nice chunk of change

1/4 of homeless people have Schizophrenia.  So, let's not claim we know their mindsets.

[*MAFIA* Wasserfaller]

1/4 of homeless people have Schizophrenia.  So, let's not claim we know their mindsets.

Where i live there's been a big scandal with the hospitals not accepting the homeless people. They don't want to front the bill themselves, so the hospitals drop them off at the homeless shelter after they're closed; the homeless people end up being found the next day dead either frozen or beaten. People are so fucked up towards other people when there's money involved.

[MadMedic]

John McCain and Rudy Giuliani, hmm I could'nt choose.  Probably McCain because I dont think hes as much of a religious nutjob as some republicans are.  Thats the only point I dont share with republicans is the massive focus on religion.  Wheres the libertarian nominee?

My dad is a law partner with Rudy Giuliani...

[Lightning]

Bush may not be doing the right thing, but he is not a terrorist because he is killing for a reason not over religion

I think religion may have a larger part in this than you think!  The media doesn't want to state this but there are alliances in this war also.  Isreal being the biggest.  We have always supported Isreal (Christian) and this is a driving force in terrorism.  Christians must die is there way of thinking.  If you want to debate religion in the war I would be glad to.  PM me.

[Lightning]

If people really wanna solve the gas prices, outlaw trucks, SUV's, and Fords. No one really needs these kinds of hideous vehicles, and for those who absolutely need a truck for work, go buy an 80's Datsun. Those things last forever and pull anything. Oh, and outlaw Hummers, especially the H2, what a disgusting looking tupperware-container on wheels.

Here we go again.  Someone that wants govt. control over what we can and can't buy.  If you want to get rid of these types of vheicle's convince everyone to buy something else.  I guarantee that if there is no money in it that they will stop being made.  We need less govt. control here Wasser.  

Ohh yeah and my Ford escort gets 31 MPG.

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I think you must be talking about Canada.  Im sorry but it is illegal to deny anyone medical aid.  Even if you can't pay for it.  I know I am not going to loose my job, house , etc because I fail to render medical aid.

[MadMedic]

Where i live there's been a big scandal with the hospitals not accepting the homeless people. They don't want to front the bill themselves, so the hospitals drop them off at the homeless shelter after they're closed; the homeless people end up being found the next day dead either frozen or beaten. People are so fucked up towards other people when there's money involved.

Thats illegal immigrants... they are not protected by Constitutional laws, so hospitals have no need to use the legal taxpayers dollars to help criminals.

[*MAFIA* Wasserfaller]

Here we go again.  Someone that wants govt. control over what we can and can't buy.  If you want to get rid of these types of vheicle's convince everyone to buy something else.  I guarantee that if there is no money in it that they will stop being made.  We need less govt. control here Wasser.  Ohh yeah and my Ford escort gets 31 MPG.

I think you must be talking about Canada.  Im sorry but it is illegal to deny anyone medical aid.  Even if you can't pay for it.  I know I am not going to loose my job, house , etc because I fail to render medical aid.

I'm talking about trucks. We do need more governmental control if it's causing people to buy overconsumptiv e monstrosities that they don't need. I wish i could persuade people to buy something else, but they're so blinded by the fact that they can do "sick mobbing in my sweet-ass ride!" <----Bakersfield mentality. For them to stop making it, the consumers have to stop buying it, and as long as there's sand and the central coast, these idiots won't get the message that they're wasting money and oil; they just don't get it. You could spell it out to them like you were talking to a 3 year old, and they still wouldn't get it, believe me.

No, i'm talking about california. The reason why it's such a big deal is because it's a scandal.  That means it's something that shouldn't be happening, but it is. It's illegal to deny aid to them, but they do it anyway. In the early-mid 90's there was a big problem with this in LA also. I have no hard evidence because i don't want to look on the internet to find it, but my mom is a nurse and she gets these stories from co-workers who experienced this stuff first hand.