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[*MAFIA* ßlåkjáx]

Before going into Iraq their countrys freedom or countrymen wasn't in jeapordy from Iraqi's but they did what they were told and that makes them good citizens.
 
Invading a country to supposedly bring freedom and democracy to a foreign culture when they don't actually want it.

Jesus, I hate it when people spit bullshit facts they know nothing about. There is no way for you to know that Iraq and other countries don't want us there.  Where do you get your information? TV? Radio? Newspaper? When was the last time the media didn't write a bunch of bullshit to sway decisions for politics? Think about it.

[*MAFIA* Hellraiser]

Jesus, I hate it when people spit bullshit facts they know nothing about. There is no way for you to know that Iraq and other countries don't want us there.  Where do you get your information? TV? Radio? Newspaper? When was the last time the media didn't write a bunch of bullshit to sway decisions for politics? Think about it.

  That is basically what I was saying, but in a nicer way. 

[*MAFIA* Beatlejuice]

Here is one question.  Can anyone say they have been to Iraq before the war, and then once again after the war has started, and then at recent times?  I am just wondering, because, how does everyone have this "KNOWLEDGE", about what we are doing over there?.......Now, to ask yet another question, where is everyone getting their knowledge about Iraq from, who hasn't been there 2 or 3 times?  The media, correct?

I'm sure there are plenty of people who can say that.....

People's knowledge may come from friends/family members who have been there, not entirely the media.

[*MAFIA* Hellraiser]

I'm sure there are plenty of people who can say that.....

People's knowledge may come from friends/family members who have been there, not entirely the media.

  Ok, well then let them answer.  Damn it.  I understand that friends and family, but I am trying to find out who.  Shit, for once let other people answer for themselves.  I am just saying from experience that the media doesn't always report what is right and good.  As of late all the news is turning back to Afghanistan, talking about the high amount of deaths both US and Afghanistians.  However, these numbers haven't increased much if at all.  It is just the news in Iraq is basically played out, and almost everything is getting better over there.  I saw a big difference in Afghanistan with in just the year and a half that I wasn't there.  I was there for 04-05, and then, 07-08.  I say a year and a half because I got back in May of 05 and then left Jan of 08.   

[*MAFIA* Beatlejuice]

Ok, well then let them answer.  Damn it.  I understand that friends and family, but I am trying to find out who.  Shit, for once let other people answer for themselves.

Who is "them?"  In your reply #14, those questions were not addressed to anyone or any group of people in particular, or not that I could see.  So if I answered that for anybody else, I apologize.  It just seemed like a general question so I was giving a general answer.  I'm not trying to argue with you, or even disagree with you.  I know what you're saying about the media, and I don't think you're wrong...

I don't know how reliable this sorce is, but since 2003, over 4,000 U.S. troops have died - http://icasualties.org/oif/

[*MAFIA* Dune Surfer]

Jesus, I hate it when people spit bullshit facts they know nothing about. There is no way for you to know that Iraq and other countries don't want us there.  Where do you get your information? TV? Radio? Newspaper? When was the last time the media didn't write a bunch of bullshit to sway decisions for politics? Think about it.

Here you go right here, these are genuine interviews not presented by News readers or newpaper editors:

What allot the Iraqi's now think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJAd_1CIMdM

Here's Americans confessing to the shocking damage their doing and maybe why so many Iraqi's have now turned insurgent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL0aKak931k

[*MAFIA* Bonehead]

it all boils down to the fuckwad president and the babies crying, he is the one that bullshitted and lied.

all lives lost and the blood is on that sob's hands...