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[Boemann (nl)]

All I know is that in countries that do not allow their citizens to possess guns , non-voilent crimes have gone up 10 fold in the last 5 years. That is including the Netherlands. In these places a criminal knows he can come in your house and rob you and  not get shot. At least in America before someone breaks into a house they have to wonder does that person have a gun. For me I like the idea of someone not coming in my house when I'm sleeping. So yes in America we do have more Voilent in crimes. In the Netherlands per Capita you have more non-Voilnet crimes. So which is better. Either place is not perfect.  One other thing if a criminal in any country wants a gun he's going to get it, then what are you going to do.

Thats weird, cause I just had to do a presentation yesterday about how many crime there was in the NL and it clearly showed that the amound of break ins have dropped like 50% and voilent crimes, like threatening, have increased a bit. I'll see if I can upload a picture of that when I'm back from school

[*MAFIA* Bonehead]

Any govt wants you to think crime has dropped lol!!!! when in fact it goes up every day all year round. This sorry ass world gets worse every day, why? because man runs it... and his love of money.

[*MAFIA* Phantom]

Kim Jong-il 4 president!

[*MAFIA* [StimPH]]

So yes in America we do have more Voilent in crimes. In the Netherlands per Capita you have more non-Voilnet crimes. So which is better. Either place is not perfect.

I would say non-voilent, better 11000 houses where somebodey breaks in then 11000 people who got killed by a gun. Im not telling the guns in the U.S. should be forbidden, the only thing im trying to say is that there would be less victims when guns would be forbidden.

[*MAFIA* Bonehead]

If someone wants to kill someone a gun wont matter.

[*MAFIA* MAGGOT]

If someone wants to kill someone a gun wont matter.

/\ EXACTLY! The same exact idea is behind break ins,no matter how many locks if they want something bad enough they WILL get to it and take it.

[*MAFIA* Dune Surfer]

I hardly think this student could of got away with killing 33 people face to face with simply a knife.

[*MAFIA* ßlåkjáx]

Oh, not just a knife, he probly would bring explosives into the picture... would that be better?

[*MAFIA* Dune Surfer]

Would you know how to rig explosives? I wouldn't, and I doubt he could.

[*MAFIA* MAGGOT]

Would you know how to rig explosives? I wouldn't, and I doubt he could.

Look around online for a few hours and you can find ANYTHING from how to build a compound of hazardous material to how to build a bomb i think this is why terrorists acts are becoming more frequent, because they have easier access on how to make or do certain things.

[*MAFIA* Capsloc]

hell even get a few nades and then he would have gotten some more kills

[Boemann (nl)]

Even in my sience book is explained how to make semtex and tnt,, what more do you need lol

[*MAFIA* Bonehead]

Thermite all the way!

[Lightning]

Yeah look at all those un-educated middle easterns they cant blow themselves up!  Just think what an educatd Asian can do.  You know they created this computer thing you typing on, ohh and every other electronic gadget out there.  They don't know anything.  You dont think if he blew himself up in the middle of a rally or sporting event that he wouldn't kill more than 33 poeple.

[*MAFIA* Dune Surfer]

Sure he could of gone in there and blew himself up but how would he have KNOWN he'd managed to kill so many people. The Killings were methodical as if he was going for a maximum kill count. Also this isn't the classic suicide martyre killing its not like he thought Allah would take him in when he was done. It may have only been when the gravity of his prediciment hit home he decided to shoot himself in the head.